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I hate comparing to guys to Draymond Green and take any chance I can get to shoot them down when they're made, but Collin Murray-Boyles has the goods to make the comp legitimate.

If we end up in the 5-9 range, he's in play for me.
 
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I watched the MSU-Rutgers game just now. Not a great outing for Harper and Bailey. I think we all realize this, but both will have a tough rookie season.
 
MickZagger said:
If we don’t have at least a top 5 pick in this draft, Cronin should be fired on the spot.
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As with every draft other than the two or three worst ever, there will be good-to-great players available well after that.
 
The Wemby draft was supposed to be "great" but it was just him and then a big step down. This draft is shaping up to be not the great draft it was supposed to be, too. Maybe the great draft is the next one, with the Boozers.
 
AmirIcon said:
Where do guys think we can realistically reach in terms of odds? 5th?
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If we start really tanking and only win another three to five games I think we will likely have a worse record than the Nets, Sixers, and Pels (I know they have a bad record but that is a talented squad and we'll have to see how dedicated they can be to the tank). We know that our team can tank, we've done it pretty effectively in the second half of the last three seasons.

So yeah 5th seams like our highest position... unless the Hornets fuck around and win some games they think they can afford to play their good players and still lose but don't. Then we're 4th. I would say our range is 4th to 8th. This four game win streak with the kind of talent at the top of this draft was a real kick in the balls.
 
Rastapopoulos said:
The Wemby draft was supposed to be "great" but it was just him and then a big step down. This draft is shaping up to be not the great draft it was supposed to be, too. Maybe the great draft is the next one, with the Boozers.
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The skills, athleticism and size of the top three prospects in this draft (Flagg, Harper, Bailey) make them can't miss picks. The rest is a step down but there's a ton of talent. I don't know where you're seeing that it's not as good of a draft class as originally thought.
 
Probably time to focus on what’s left after 6 or 7. Maybe they will get really really really really lucky with the 8th pick?
 
Which of Scoot, Sharpe, Toumani, Deni and Clingan are y'all so excited to replace with a draft pick? I cannot be more excited to watch these guys develop. Trading Grant and Simons for some bench prospects would be great.

Is it just the hope of something new being magic elixir?
 
THE HCP said:
I’ve watched about 10 Rutgers games this season. Harper has impressed me more than Bailey. But that happens when you have the ball 80% of the time. Harper’s court vision and the way he controls the offense is VERY impressive. I think if it comes down to it, Bailey is a better fit for our roster though.
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Screw the roster. Draft the best player available please.
 
bemac said:
Which of Scoot, Sharpe, Toumani, Deni and Clingan are y'all so excited to replace with a draft pick? I cannot be more excited to watch these guys develop. Trading Grant and Simons for some bench prospects would be great.

Is it just the hope of something new being magic elixir?
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None of them have proven to be good enough to pass on the best player available if we're in the top 10. Certainly not if we could figure out how to be in the top five.
 
Rastapopoulos said:
As with every draft other than the two or three worst ever, there will be good-to-great players available well after that.
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Doesn't change the fact that we should be looking picking in the top five. And we would be if our GM was doing his job right, IMO.
 
Pinwheel1 said:
I watched the MSU-Rutgers game just now. Not a great outing for Harper and Bailey. I think we all realize this, but both will have a tough rookie season.
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I’ve watched almost all their games….I can’t agree. I’m thinking they both succeed. Harper runs an offense like Cade Cunningham out there. Very impressed with his court vision. I guess it depends on what we think “tough rookie season means”?
 
THE HCP said:
I’ve watched almost all their games….I can’t agree. I’m thinking they both succeed. Harper runs an offense like Cade Cunningham out there. Very impressed with his court vision. I guess it depends on what we think “tough rookie season means”?
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Just normal rookie growing pains....much like they did yesterday against college players. Sure they will be better by next year, but so will their competition. Much like how Cunningham struggled at times during his first two years. If the two of them can't elevate their college team how are going to elevate an NBA team as rookies? Not saying they won't be successful, next year, just that they will have a tougher time than Flagg.
 
THE HCP said:
I’ve watched almost all their games….I can’t agree. I’m thinking they both succeed. Harper runs an offense like Cade Cunningham out there. Very impressed with his court vision. I guess it depends on what we think “tough rookie season means”?
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I agree with Pinwheel. It was my first time watching them, and I was less impressed than I expected to be. I definitely see the Cunningham comps for Harper, but it was tough to tell much with him being physically limited. Bailey clearly has shot-making potential, but pretty much got manhandled by an older, stronger opponent...which will be the case his first couple years in the league. I also thought his so-called excellent length was actually pretty poor. There are guards with better wingspans than him. That doesn't spell franchise player to me.
 
I'm an Ace Bailey fan. I think a dude that has a shot like that, size and length like that and his kind of motor is as close to you get to a sure fire all star. This guy works hard, has a great handle for a guy that's 6'10", he works for boards, he reads passing lanes. I'm just a big fan of all the things this guy can do... I don't think I'd take him over Flagg but it's not a simple decision for me because Flaggs shooting just isn't close to what Bailey's is and I realize Bailey's post defense isn't where Flaggs is and both have really great perimeter D.

It really bugs me that we aren't already tanking harder when we can see what the potential reward would be. Worried about the trade deadline and what we might not do. Still excited for the lotto and the draft because while that top tier of talent is spectacular the next couple of tiers are really impressive too.
 
POR aint getting a top 3. I say Ainge gets Flagg.
 


I’m a HUGE fan of this kid. I tuned in randomly to a game they played against Arkansas earlier this year and was amazed at his feel for the game. How easy the game came to him. I actually hadn’t been following the draft that hard up to that point and it made sense that he was on draft boards and he’s really shot up the boards recently.

insane feel for the game, good size, looks to better his teammates first. Such flair for a young kid and such a sweet as jumper off the dribble which is a money trait to have in the NBA.
 
We have decent mix of assets if we wanted top trade up or trade for.
 
I think people are getting two upset about not getting the No. 1 pick.

Flagg looks great. The Blazers are going to be in the lottery, so they're going to still have a chance at the ping pong balls falling right and getting him.

But this isn't a one-player draft. In fact, I think this draft looked great going in and the lottery looks even deeper now that we're halfway into the season. There are several quality forwards that have emerged.

If you were going to tell me that Egor Demin and Asa Newell might be around for the 12th pick, I'd tell you they'd be steals.

And another thing ... even if you don't get Flagg, there should be an opportunity for the Blazers to get a very good, maybe even a star player in the top 10-12.

SGA's probably going to win MVP this year. He was picked 11th in 2018, when four all-NBA players were selected after the top two, including Brunson at 33.

The Thunder's second-best player was the 12th pick in 2022. Jalen Duren was chosen 13th. Walker Kessler was 22nd. Nikola Jovic was 27th.

That wasn't even a special draft, just probably a bit above average.

The only NBA all-star so far from the 2021 draft was picked fourth. Tyrese Halliburton and Tyrese Maxey were 12 and 22, respectively, in 2020. Donovan Mitchell was 13, Bam Abedayo 14 and Jarrett Allen 22 in 2017. Domantas Sabonis was 11, Pascal Siakam 27, Dejounte Murray 29 and Malcolm Brogdon 36 in 2016.

I don't think we should be frustrated if we don't land the top pick or even a top-three pick. There should be a player where we pick that could be a difference-maker. The important things are identifying that player and creating some kind of culture/system that wins here. Just drafting Cooper Flagg isn't going to make the Blazers great if we don't have some kind of organizational direction in place in which he (or whoever), Scoot, Shaedon, Clingan, Toumani, Deni and whoever else can thrive.
 
PCmor7 said:
I think people are getting two upset about not getting the No. 1 pick.

Flagg looks great. The Blazers are going to be in the lottery, so they're going to still have a chance at the ping pong balls falling right and getting him.

But this isn't a one-player draft. In fact, I think this draft looked great going in and the lottery looks even deeper now that we're halfway into the season. There are several quality forwards that have emerged.

If you were going to tell me that Egor Demin and Asa Newell might be around for the 12th pick, I'd tell you they'd be steals.

And another thing ... even if you don't get Flagg, there should be an opportunity for the Blazers to get a very good, maybe even a star player in the top 10-12.

SGA's probably going to win MVP this year. He was picked 11th in 2018, when four all-NBA players were selected after the top two, including Brunson at 33.

The Thunder's second-best player was the 12th pick in 2022. Jalen Duren was chosen 13th. Walker Kessler was 22nd. Nikola Jovic was 27th.

That wasn't even a special draft, just probably a bit above average.

The only NBA all-star so far from the 2021 draft was picked fourth. Tyrese Halliburton and Tyrese Maxey were 12 and 22, respectively, in 2020. Donovan Mitchell was 13, Bam Abedayo 14 and Jarrett Allen 22 in 2017. Domantas Sabonis was 11, Pascal Siakam 27, Dejounte Murray 29 and Malcolm Brogdon 36 in 2016.

I don't think we should be frustrated if we don't land the top pick or even a top-three pick. There should be a player where we pick that could be a difference-maker. The important things are identifying that player and creating some kind of culture/system that wins here. Just drafting Cooper Flagg isn't going to make the Blazers great if we don't have some kind of organizational direction in place in which he (or whoever), Scoot, Shaedon, Clingan, Toumani, Deni and whoever else can thrive.
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It’s not about not having the #1 pick. This draft is about so much more than the #1 pick
 
Do we have a second round pick this year? I have read that we have the Atlanta pick but protected 41-60. But i looked at one two round mock and it didn't show Atlanta or Portland in the 41 range i would expect it. I understand now that we gave up the Milwaukee pick in this deep and good draft and also our second round pick when we traded for Grant.
 
UKRAINEFAN said:
Do we have a second round pick this year? I have read that we have the Atlanta pick but protected 41-60. But i looked at one two round mock and it didn't show Atlanta or Portland in the 41 range i would expect it. I understand now that we gave up the Milwaukee pick in this deep and good draft and also our second round pick when we traded for Grant.
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We get it if Atlanta is one of the 10 worst teams in the league. Else we don't have any. They are the 11th worst team right now and that pick is 41 (going to OKC of all teams). So better hope Atlanta keeps losing or the teams underneath start winning.
 
B-Roy said:
We get it if Atlanta is one of the 10 worst teams in the league. Else we don't have any. They are the 11th worst team right now and that pick is 41 (going to OKC of all teams). So better hope Atlanta keeps losing or the teams underneath start winning.
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Thanks. That explains why I couldn't find it in a mock draft. Under the conditions right now it would not got to either Portland or Atlanta.
 
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