Event 2025 NBA DRAFT LOTTERY, COMBINE, AND DRAFT

[crandc]

Had Portland won lottery, fans of 13 other teams would be screaming it's rigged! Portland had only 1.8% chance. No way it was just luck. Adam Silver is Jewish. Portland traded for an Israeli player, putting him in a city where he would not face intense media scrutiny. Jody Allen has Paul's billions to bribe with. Clearly fix is in. NBA is corrupt.

 

[Phatguysrule]

POR did develop

Yeah, so Utah and Washington are probably eager to make that trade then...

 

[PDXFonz]

Oh yeah, he was clamoring to play in Utah, CHA, or WAS…

 

[STOMP]

Sure, with players like Ayton. Williams, Simons, Grant, Thybulle. Guys that might not even be on the team next year.

If we won games playing our core and young guys together as many minutes as we could, then great.

so much wrong with this post. When they "won" it was the later 2/3rds of the season when Deni took the reigns. Ayton and Grant missed much of that stretch. Williams and Thybulle barely played all year. Simons is still young. They "won" at about a 50% clip from Christmas on playing the young guys a ton of minutes... so great right?!? The young core should be better next season, I'm excited to see how much better

STOMP

 

[CJ_is_Gone]

prior to being drafted, Kobe let it be known via his agent that if his draft rights ended up with anyone besides the Lakers he would enroll at UNC and that team would lose his draft rights. This was openly spoken about prior to the draft and I heard interviews with several NBA GMs who were in the lotto confirming this including the Warrior GM Dave Twardzic & Nets Assistant GM John Nash... I also heard an interview with UNC coach Dean Smith saying the same thing. The NBA changed their rules following this to prevent it from happening again where now teams hold onto those rights

STOMP

Nothing preventing Flagg from withdrawing and going back to Duke for a year. He can try again next year

 

[JfizzleBlazer]

so much wrong with this post. When they "won" it was the later 2/3rds of the season when Deni took the reigns. Ayton and Grant missed much of that stretch. Williams and Thybulle barely played all year. Simons is still young. They "won" at about a 50% clip from Christmas on playing the young guys a ton of minutes... so great right?!? The young core should be better next season, I'm excited to see how much better

STOMP

Grant playing his last 18 games of the season from January through early March the Blazers won 12 games.

The last ten games Ayton played, we won 8 out of 10 games.

For a team in our position, there is no reason for us to have those kinds of players playing meaningful minutes.

 

[Cugel]

Sure, with players like Ayton. Williams, Simons, Grant, Thybulle. Guys that might not even be on the team next year.

If we won games playing our core and young guys together as many minutes as we could, then great.

Everyone knows POR played their best without Grant and Ayton. We know now what the team has in Tou and Deni. Sharpe showed glimpses and Scoot a few too. That is what the season was and that was a positive. All I am saying is UTA sucked ass and didn’t get Flagg

 

[crandc]

I don't wish harm to Flagg. Nothing against him. But what if he has a major injury? Or turns out to be a college star who doesn't cut it in NBA, like Christian Laettner or Mike Dunleavy Jr ? Would you all say NBA deliberately sent him to Dallas knowing he would be a bust?

 

[Hoopguru]

The Blazers are going to end up in purgatory coming out of this "rebuild". Damn shame.

At least 75% of the teams are in purgatory every year. I think this year 15/16 teams of 30 finished above 500. And that usually is the case very year too. And as most years there only 5-6 teams at most that are dominate contenders. The league is strictly built off of playoff hype and for a chance that a mediocre team at best could shock the world. Just about every pro league in sports have expanded playoffs knowing they were missing target fans.

 

[Natebishop3]

Dallas forth worth is a big market though isnt it?

And beyond Dallas, Texas has like 35 million people?
Id say in sports, Texas is a large market.

It’s huge. I was looking yesterday and it’s like the 4th biggest market.

 

[Hoopguru]

If the fake show wanted trade Doncic back to Dallas, would you give up #1?

 

[STOMP]

Nothing preventing Flagg from withdrawing and going back to Duke for a year. He can try again next year

Nothing except the rules. By declaring for the draft he can’t go back to college. If he goes and plays overseas the Mavs still own his NBA rights

STOMP

 

[wizenheimer]

Not that I'd put it past our current franchise but Bobby Marks is absolutely useless. .

no opinion about Marks, but this season Simons-Ayton-Grant combined for 157 games. And, they combined for 157 starts. That was Billups and he'll be back. Does anybody really believe he's going to bench any of those 3 players if they are still Blazers? One of Avdija/Sharpe will likely be a backup, along with Clingan & Scoot

 

[PCmor7]

Queen is incredibly skilled. I'd be very happy to get him as a different look to Clingan.

He scares me. First, the Blazers would have to trade one or two of their glut of centers to make it worth adding a player like Queen. Second, as someone else said, the questions about his intensity are concerning.

I really hate being at 11, just from the standpoint of the value at that spot. I'd have to hear some good stuff about Murray-Boyles' workouts to like picking him at that spot. I don't like Fleming. People seem to have come around to what a lot of us were saying for months that Knueppel is a smart pick, so he's no longer going to be there at 11. Essengue is still likely to be available there, and that's who I'd take if the Blazers couldn't trade down a few spots where they might be able to get both him and Lendeborg (or luck into Demin still being on the board).

EDIT: Left out McNeeley, who I think gives you similar skills to Knueppel as a shooter, which really would help us.

 

[wizenheimer]

Nothing except the rules. By declaring for the draft he can’t go back to college. If he goes and plays overseas the Mavs still own his NBA rights

STOMP

the deadline for withdrawing from the draft is June 15, so theoretically, Flagg could return to Duke



I have no clue about Flagg's arrangements, if any, with an agent. He has apperaed in a commercial but I don't believe that's disqualifying

 

[LayneStaley]

He isn’t going back to Duke, Dal might not be his dream destination but at least he will be in the playoffs next year with a healthy Kyrie and AD. I do think it’s fucked they won with a 1.8% chance but didn’t Atlanta do the same last season?

I’m still mostly mad about the one ball away from winning the Wemby draft.

 

[kjironman1]

Too late

They can always try to suck harder next year.

 

[BigGameDamian]

 

[Phatguysrule]

They can always try to suck harder next year.

Doubt it. They'll barely miss or barely make the playoffs.

 

[BigGameDamian]

 

[wizenheimer]

since 2000, Portland's 1st round picks outside of top-10 (includes draft day trades):

Erick Barkely
Zach Randolph
Qyntel Woods
Travis Outlaw
Sebatian Telfaire
Sergei Monia
Jarett Jack
Sergio Rodrigues
Joel Freeland
Rudy Fernandez
Jerryd Bayless
Nicolas Batum
Victor Claver
Luke Babbitt
Elliot Williams
Nolan Smith
Caleb Swanigan
Meyers Leonard
Anfernee Simons
Nassir Little

and, Portland's top-10 picks:

Martell Webster
Lamarcus Aldridge
Brandon Roy
Damian Lillard
CJ McCollum
Zach Collins
Shaedon Sharpe
Scoot Henderson
Donovan Clingan

pretty clear case of Quality curb-stomping the hell out of Quantity

the books on Sharpe-Scoot-Clingan haven't been written yet, so set them aside for the moment. That leaves 17 players selected 11-30 and 6 players selected in top-10. The Top-10 players have combined for 19 all-star games and 12 all-NBA selections. The 11-30 crowd have combined for 0 all-star games and 0 all-NBA selections

say what you want about the exceptions like Giannis or Siakam or Jokic. Portland's history is that they don't find those diamonds; they generally find coal. Maybe this time it will be different; I hope it will be. But Blazer history is not encouraging

 

[SharpeScooterShooter]

since 2000, Portland's 1st round picks outside of top-10 (includes draft day trades):

Erick Barkely
Zach Randolph
Qyntel Woods
Travis Outlaw
Sebatian Telfaire
Sergei Monia
Jarett Jack
Sergio Rodrigues
Joel Freeland
Rudy Fernandez
Jerryd Bayless
Nicolas Batum
Victor Claver
Luke Babbitt
Elliot Williams
Nolan Smith
Caleb Swanigan
Anfernee Simons
Nassir Little

and, Portland's top-10 picks:

Martell Webster
Lamarcus Aldridge
Brandon Roy
Damian Lillard
CJ McCollum
Zach Collins
Shaedon Sharpe
Scoot Henderson
Donovan Clingan

pretty clear case of Quality curb-stomping the hell out of Quantity

the books on Sharpe-Scoot-Clingan haven't been written yet, so set them aside for the moment. That leaves 17 players selected 11-30 and 6 players selected in top-10. The Top-10 players have combined for 19 all-star games and 12 all-NBA selections. The 11-30 crowd have combined for 0 all-star games and 0 all-NBA selections

say what you want about the exceptions like Giannis or Siakam or Jokic. Portland's history is that they don't find those diamonds; they generally find coal. Maybe this time it will be different; I hope it will be. But Blazer history is not encouraging

Mike Schmitz wasn't part of that history. I find him encouraging.

 

[wizenheimer]

Mike Schmidt wasn't part of that history. I find him encouraging.

maybe, but it's not clear yet

Sharpe-Scoot-Clingan....one of those players needs to pay-off, big time. If three top-7 picks end up as role players, no gold stars. But that's why I set those guys aside until their trajectories are clear. If it was Schmitz who advocated for Camara and Avdija, they yeah, that's encouraging

 

[PDXFonz]

Commenting on this again because of how much it pisses me off.

You really can’t convince me that Flagg would have rather gone to a degenerate franchise like the freaking Hornets or Wizards rather than seeing DAL land the #1.

Anybody saying anything else is the case based off of Flaggs look of surprise in the moment is just whoring out a storyline for content.

This biased ‘reporter’ might as well have written an article which says “Flagg disappointed in Mavericks pick order over Spurs”.

If Flagg would have rather played in WAS/CHA/UTA/NOP then he should be on bust alert for mental incompetence. Dude actually dodged multiple bullets (or wizards) yesterday.

If you have a social media account you can say w/e you want today. If 100,000 idiots follow you and share your stupid takes it just means you are a successful clown.

 

[SharpesTriumph]

Had Portland won lottery, fans of 13 other teams would be screaming it's rigged! Portland had only 1.8% chance. No way it was just luck. Adam Silver is Jewish. Portland traded for an Israeli player, putting him in a city where he would not face intense media scrutiny. Jody Allen has Paul's billions to bribe with. Clearly fix is in. NBA is corrupt.

Thats the great thing about this conspiracy - no matter what happens we can just type a new narrative to perfectly explain why its rigged!

Now I'm reading that its rigged for small markets that traded away stars, and to combine stars together on small markets.

Will be interesting what the narrative is next.

 

[SharpesTriumph]

so much wrong with this post. When they "won" it was the later 2/3rds of the season when Deni took the reigns. Ayton and Grant missed much of that stretch. Williams and Thybulle barely played all year. Simons is still young. They "won" at about a 50% clip from Christmas on playing the young guys a ton of minutes... so great right?!? The young core should be better next season, I'm excited to see how much better

STOMP

Maybe we can keep Ayton/Grant/Ant starting so our core of Scoot/Sharpe/Clingan can sit on the bench for a 3rd year.

Also put that #11 pick on the bench too. Maybe we start the year benching Deni again just like last year - otherwise he might take some of Grant's shots.

 

[SharpesTriumph]

He isn’t going back to Duke, Dal might not be his dream destination but at least he will be in the playoffs next year with a healthy Kyrie and AD. I do think it’s fucked they won with a 1.8% chance but didn’t Atlanta do the same last season?

I’m still mostly mad about the one ball away from winning the Wemby draft.

Kyrie has a major knee injury and won't play most of the year, very possible he won't play at all.

 

[kjironman1]

since 2000, Portland's 1st round picks outside of top-10 (includes draft day trades):

Erick Barkely
Zach Randolph
Qyntel Woods
Travis Outlaw
Sebatian Telfaire
Sergei Monia
Jarett Jack
Sergio Rodrigues
Joel Freeland
Rudy Fernandez
Jerryd Bayless
Nicolas Batum
Victor Claver
Luke Babbitt
Elliot Williams
Nolan Smith
Caleb Swanigan
Anfernee Simons
Nassir Little

and, Portland's top-10 picks:

Martell Webster
Lamarcus Aldridge
Brandon Roy
Damian Lillard
CJ McCollum
Zach Collins
Shaedon Sharpe
Scoot Henderson
Donovan Clingan

pretty clear case of Quality curb-stomping the hell out of Quantity

the books on Sharpe-Scoot-Clingan haven't been written yet, so set them aside for the moment. That leaves 17 players selected 11-30 and 6 players selected in top-10. The Top-10 players have combined for 19 all-star games and 12 all-NBA selections. The 11-30 crowd have combined for 0 all-star games and 0 all-NBA selections

say what you want about the exceptions like Giannis or Siakam or Jokic. Portland's history is that they don't find those diamonds; they generally find coal. Maybe this time it will be different; I hope it will be. But Blazer history is not encouraging

Conveniently left off Meyers “The Legend” Leonard from the 11th spot on that list.

 

[LayneStaley]

Kyrie has a major knee injury and won't play most of the year, very possible he won't play at all.

Still think they make the playoffs.

 

[Natebishop3]

since 2000, Portland's 1st round picks outside of top-10 (includes draft day trades):

Erick Barkely
Zach Randolph
Qyntel Woods
Travis Outlaw
Sebatian Telfaire
Sergei Monia
Jarett Jack
Sergio Rodrigues
Joel Freeland
Rudy Fernandez
Jerryd Bayless
Nicolas Batum
Victor Claver
Luke Babbitt
Elliot Williams
Nolan Smith
Caleb Swanigan
Anfernee Simons
Nassir Little

and, Portland's top-10 picks:

Martell Webster
Lamarcus Aldridge
Brandon Roy
Damian Lillard
CJ McCollum
Zach Collins
Shaedon Sharpe
Scoot Henderson
Donovan Clingan

pretty clear case of Quality curb-stomping the hell out of Quantity

the books on Sharpe-Scoot-Clingan haven't been written yet, so set them aside for the moment. That leaves 17 players selected 11-30 and 6 players selected in top-10. The Top-10 players have combined for 19 all-star games and 12 all-NBA selections. The 11-30 crowd have combined for 0 all-star games and 0 all-NBA selections

say what you want about the exceptions like Giannis or Siakam or Jokic. Portland's history is that they don't find those diamonds; they generally find coal. Maybe this time it will be different; I hope it will be. But Blazer history is not encouraging

Randolph should have been an All Star. But he’s pretty much the only one on that first list.