Event 2025 NBA DRAFT LOTTERY, COMBINE, AND DRAFT

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Phatguysrule said:
Doubt it. They'll barely miss or barely make the playoffs.
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I don't think that's a foregone conclusion.

If you take Grant, Ant, Ayton and maybe Timelord and Matisse, this roster isn't built to be as good next year as this year ... unless they somehow swing another Deni-type return. No one in this draft aside from Flagg is going to be ready for prime time next season. The Blazers will be competitive, but I don't think they'll have the savvy to win a lot. It'll be growing pains as a couple of the younger guys experiment with becoming leaders and closers.

It's fine with me, too. I like the top of next year's draft better than the top of this year's. Get a complementary piece this offseason, learn and hope to pick in the top four a year from now, where I think you have several talents that would have gone ahead of Flagg had they been in the same draft.
 
Apparently, per Zach Lowe, if the last ball in the lottery was 6 instead of 7, the Blazers would have won the #1...



Somewhere around the 25 mark (not exact)
 
SharpesTriumph said:
Maybe we can keep Ayton/Grant/Ant starting so our core of Scoot/Sharpe/Clingan can sit on the bench for a 3rd year.
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nothing like complaining about non-issues. Shaedon had the 3rd most minutes on the team last year, Scoot the 5th... both played far more minutes then Grant or Ayton. Rookie Clingan played far more then anyone predicted averaging 20 per. The young core was hardly just sitting on the bench.

STOMP
 
Bingo Bango said:
Nor should they. They’ve been a disgrace with four straight years of tanking. They deserved to get moved back in the lottery.
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Your attitude about this shit is strait up childish. Do you remember when the Mavs pulled the most blatant in game tank to stay out of the playoffs and retain their pick a couple of seasons ago??? The Spurs were obviously tanking when they got Wemby. So why the fuck does our team "deserve" worse draft position for doing the common sense thing by pursuing long term goals in a strategic manner... is it because that doesn't pass your personal purity test? Grow up dude.

Edit: Oh and by the way, we didn't fucking tank this season but by all means continue this foolishness.
 
blazerkor said:
Your attitude about this shit is strait up childish. Do you remember when the Mavs pulled the most blatant in game tank to stay out of the playoffs and retain their pick a couple of seasons ago??? The Spurs were obviously tanking when they got Wemby. So why the fuck does our team "deserve" worse draft position for doing the common sense thing by pursuing long term goals in a strategic manner... is it because that doesn't pass your personal purity test? Grow up dude.

Edit: Oh and by the way, we didn't fucking tank this season but by all means continue this foolishness.
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We tanked a smidge but only at weird times.
 
wizenheimer said:
maybe, but it's not clear yet

Sharpe-Scoot-Clingan....one of those players needs to pay-off, big time. If three top-7 picks end up as role players, no gold stars. But that's why I set those guys aside until their trajectories are clear. If it was Schmitz who advocated for Camara and Avdija, they yeah, that's encouraging
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Good point. Do we know who called for Camara and Deni? Im leaning Mike, but I don't know.
 
SharpeScooterShooter said:
Good point. Do we know who called for Camara and Deni? Im leaning Mike, but I don't know.
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I've never understood how people try to give the Blazers a ton of credit for Camara ... I mean we passed on him tons of times when he was a late 2nd round pick.

Certainly get some credit for having him thrown into the Ayton deal later that summer. But if we were real high on him we'd have got him back at the draft.

Kind of like the Draymond - Golden State story. They passed on him a bunch of times.
 
SharpesTriumph said:
I've never understood how people try to give the Blazers a ton of credit for Camara ... I mean we passed on him tons of times when he was a late 2nd round pick.

Certainly get some credit for having him thrown into the Ayton deal later that summer. But if we were real high on him we'd have got him back at the draft.

Kind of like the Draymond - Golden State story. They passed on him a bunch of times.
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How long has Mike been with the team? Im not sure. Before or after those previous opportunities? I think he was brought on the year before last?
 
blazerkor said:
Your attitude about this shit is strait up childish. Do you remember when the Mavs pulled the most blatant in game tank to stay out of the playoffs and retain their pick a couple of seasons ago??? The Spurs were obviously tanking when they got Wemby. So why the fuck does our team "deserve" worse draft position for doing the common sense thing by pursuing long term goals in a strategic manner... is it because that doesn't pass your personal purity test? Grow up dude.

Edit: Oh and by the way, we didn't fucking tank this season but by all means continue this foolishness.
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The lottery is pure luck. Sometimes you move up, sometimes you move back, sometimes you stay put. Some teams get lucky, some teams don’t. But any team that intentionally loses games doesn’t deserve any luck. In a fair world, those teams would slide to the far end of the lottery

And Portland most certainly tanked this season. At one point, most of their starters were on the “injured list.” They had almost more players sitting out than taking the court. If you think that was just “bad luck,” I have a piece of swampland in Florida I’d like to sell you.
 
wizenheimer said:
since 2000, Portland's 1st round picks outside of top-10 (includes draft day trades):

Erick Barkely
Zach Randolph
Qyntel Woods
Travis Outlaw
Sebatian Telfaire
Sergei Monia
Jarett Jack
Sergio Rodrigues
Joel Freeland
Rudy Fernandez
Jerryd Bayless
Nicolas Batum
Victor Claver
Luke Babbitt
Elliot Williams
Nolan Smith
Caleb Swanigan
Meyers Leonard
Anfernee Simons
Nassir Little

and, Portland's top-10 picks:

Martell Webster
Lamarcus Aldridge
Brandon Roy
Damian Lillard
CJ McCollum
Zach Collins
Shaedon Sharpe
Scoot Henderson
Donovan Clingan

pretty clear case of Quality curb-stomping the hell out of Quantity

the books on Sharpe-Scoot-Clingan haven't been written yet, so set them aside for the moment. That leaves 17 players selected 11-30 and 6 players selected in top-10. The Top-10 players have combined for 19 all-star games and 12 all-NBA selections. The 11-30 crowd have combined for 0 all-star games and 0 all-NBA selections

say what you want about the exceptions like Giannis or Siakam or Jokic. Portland's history is that they don't find those diamonds; they generally find coal. Maybe this time it will be different; I hope it will be. But Blazer history is not encouraging
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There is a certain player Drafted in 1983 by the Blazers at #14 who was pretty good.
 
TBpup said:
There is a certain player Drafted in 1983 by the Blazers at #14 who was pretty good.
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yeah, I know that. I think drafting evaluations have changed over time, especially since the refinement of draft combines, pre-draft measurements, workouts, and interviews. There are still plenty of misses, but I don't think the rate of good players slipping to later in the drafts is nearly as high as it used to be
 
I finally did some looking. Portland with the 11th pick needs a player like Colin Murray-Boyles.
Defensive foot speed with inside scoring and toughness. Good midrange shooting and has good passing skills.
 
PCmor7 said:
I don't think that's a foregone conclusion.

If you take Grant, Ant, Ayton and maybe Timelord and Matisse, this roster isn't built to be as good next year as this year ... unless they somehow swing another Deni-type return. No one in this draft aside from Flagg is going to be ready for prime time next season. The Blazers will be competitive, but I don't think they'll have the savvy to win a lot. It'll be growing pains as a couple of the younger guys experiment with becoming leaders and closers.

It's fine with me, too. I like the top of next year's draft better than the top of this year's. Get a complementary piece this offseason, learn and hope to pick in the top four a year from now, where I think you have several talents that would have gone ahead of Flagg had they been in the same draft.
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That would be ideal. But it looks to me like Scoot and Sharpe are ready to pop pretty good. How good? Not sure...

Feels like we need them both to show All Star potential next season or we need them both to be another year away.

Anything in between might screw us... Fine line to walk... And I think in between might be the most likely.
 
I think the Fleming kid looks good, can stroke the 3, nice passer and plays with a high motor.
 
LayneStaley said:
I think the Fleming kid looks good, can stroke the 3, nice passer and plays with a high motor.
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AmirIcon said:
CMB with some good measurements and getting comped to Draymond Green.
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Yaxel Lendeborg, is better than both.

He has outstanding measurements. He can shoot, defend, rebound.

Biggest drawback is he's a little older after taking a non-conventional path to college

Here's game film when his team matched up against Flemming's


https://tankathon.com/players/compare?players=rasheer-fleming--yaxel-lendeborg--collin-murray-boyles
 
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