2nd year players should not be getting Ts in the playoffs

[BlazerWookee]

I never blame circumstances for choices.

I try not to, but it can be difficult at times.

 

[BlazerWookee]

Ummm... huh?

 

[Minstrel]

You have to call it both ways.

I'm fine with what Collins did being a technical. Just a couple plays before that Millsap was way more demonstrative at an official and he didn't get a technical. There were at least 6 other times where Jokic, Craig, Harris, and Millsap did more than what Collins did there and Foster ignored them. There was even a timeout where Jokic had to go half way across the court out of his way and was pointing and yelling at one of the officials and he didn't get anything for that.

Portland also got away with protest demonstrations without a tech, like Kanter's reaction running across the floor to bury his face in the basket stanchion after an offensive foul. So, I agree with you that the calls are inconsistent, but that's always going to be the case judging something as subjective as "too much demonstration." There's no hard-and-fast standards for such a thing. I don't think the officials were biased against Portland or anything. I thought the poor officiating went both directions.

 

[Natebishop3]

I feel like if you're going to get T'd up for showing up the ref, you should at least make it worth the effort.

 

[Wizard Mentor]

The refs will always screw us - to pretend otherwise only leads to more frustration.

The "inconvenient truth" is that I'd probably enjoy the NBA more if the blazers left town. But, for as long as they're here... Go Blazers!!!!

 

[Paine Tablet]

I'll be honest--I was driving, so I didn't see the T. But watching it now, I get it. It's not like he was just reacting at the time of the call. The call was made, everyone lined up for the free throw, everyone was set, and then he throws his crazy long arms up in the air while turning around and stepping away from the lane. Very much a "look at me" type action. I can see why the ref would view that as the player trying to show him up.

Being demonstrative is not synonymous with "look at me". I talk to myself sometimes when no one is around, and I'll certainly express anger in such a way. I saw it as an impulsive reaction much to do with Collins' emotional state rather than a call for attention.

 

[Paine Tablet]

I never blame circumstances for choices.

Then you are illogical.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

Being demonstrative is not synonymous with "look at me". I talk to myself sometimes when no one is around, and I'll certainly express anger in such a way. I saw it as an impulsive reaction much to do with Collins' emotional state rather than a call for attention.

Situational awareness is key. Everyone knows that every eye in the arena is trained on that area when a player is at the free-throw line. If he wasn't looking to draw all the attention to himself when he "reacted" that way (as an aside, I give very little latitude to people who claim an action was simply a "reaction" or a "reflex", as though they're not responsible for them), then he needed to be aware of the situation and understand that's precisely what was going to happen when he behaved in such a manner in such a circumstance.

Either way, I don't give him a pass, and believe that the T was warranted.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

Then you are illogical.

Care to elaborate?

 

[dviss1]

Mike Richman said that Zach said the magic word.

I didn't see it.



That was bullshit. Was a nonsense call that was compounded by the ridiculous tech.

I wouldn't even T a kid for that response... Unless he cursed but you can curse as an NBA player. Players and coaches say "That's bullshit" all the time with no recourse.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

I wouldn't even T a kid for that response... Unless he cursed but you can curse as an NBA player. Players and coaches say "That's bullshit" all the time with no recourse.

You're also probably a lot less wrapped up in yourself, your ego, and the authority of your position than the average NBA ref is.

 

[dviss1]

You go ahead and focus on consistency and other players. I'll just focus on this individual, isolated incident, independent of others.

In my opinion, in this instance, Zach's actions were worthy of a T.

Cardinal rule of calling a technical foul:

Never take baggage away from the game.

Meaning:

Never leave a game saying "I should/shouldn't have given a T."

I would not T a child for those actions. Seriously.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

Cardinal rule of calling a technical foul:

Never take baggage away from the game.

Meaning:

Never leave a game saying "I should/shouldn't have given a T."

I would not T a child for those actions. Seriously.

I believe you. And I wouldn't fault a ref for not giving a T. I also don't fault the ref for giving the T. I think there's a valid argument to be made either way.

 

[Stevenson]

Yes, it could have gone either way, and maybe that's the point. Collins as a second-year player is in no position to do that, especially in a playoff game. Let Dame or coach bitch; they have latitude. And to me, that T shifted the game. So a dumb, almost rookie, mistake likely cost us the game and maybe the series.

 

[James lamphear]

I did tweet straight to Silver how poorly the playoffs been officiated so far this year. Does he give of shit probably not but I feel better about it.

 

[Wizard Mentor]

Nuggs have done much worse, refs don't care.