...3 part question about Cashman and the GM job

[yankeesince59]

...take time to think it over before answering/commenting.


1. Will Cashman be rehired?

2. If Cash is let go, should/would Jeter be considered as a replacement?

3. If Jeter is offered the job, would he take it?

 

[blgridesagain]

yes,no,no

 

[Rick2583]

#1) Unfortunately yes, but I'm hoping its only a year to year thing. If its 3 years or more I'm gonna be pissed.

#2) I can see it as a possibility but I really don't see it happening. Then again I don't think Cashman had much experience at 28 when he took the job.

#3) No, I think Jeter will completely take time off away from the game for a year or two before we see him again. I even doubt we'll see him at next years old timers game.

 

[Messiah717]

Yes, Cashman seems to have a job for life. Jeter is not the gm type. He wants to get into ownership.

 

[Pastafazul]

...take time to think it over before answering/commenting.


1. Will Cashman be rehired?

2. If Cash is let go, should/would Jeter be considered as a replacement?

3. If Jeter is offered the job, would he take it?

yes... lol....lol

 

[totus44]

Rehired, Yes but a 2 year deal, perhaps with Kevin Towers back as a special asst. Now if Billy Beans were to become available, all bets are off.

Jeter is going to be focused on marriage and starting a family. We'll see him in the tabloids, not the sports pages. He's not going to be around any Yankee organization that has ARod still playing.

Jeter wants to own a club. He's gonna need more money, expect him to be very business focused. Would not be surprised if he owned an MiLB team, more likely within 5-10 years he joins an ownership group as the managing partner in charge of baseball activities....similar to what Ryan did.

 

[yankeesince59]

...Cashman was not the "GM type" either when he was given the job...at the time he was akin to George Costanza.

...I don't think starting a family will keep Jeter from pursuing his next career, whatever it may be.

...I've also brought up the possibility of him being an owner some day, and it's a real possibility. But I'd like to see more "real Baseball people" in the Yanx' upper to mid management. And I believe DJ can pretty much be whatever he wants to be. I think he's already said that he want no part of coaching (and I don't blame him) but I think he has a pretty good idea of what it takes to win and how a team needs to be constructed in order to achieve that.
...I just think he could do just as well, if not better than Cashman...and IMO, it would be good "training" before becoming an owner.

 

[Mattingly23NY]

...Cashman was not the "GM type" either when he was given the job...at the time he was akin to George Costanza.

...I don't think starting a family will keep Jeter from pursuing his next career, whatever it may be.

...I've also brought up the possibility of him being an owner some day, and it's a real possibility. But I'd like to see more "real Baseball people" in the Yanx' upper to mid management. And I believe DJ can pretty much be whatever he wants to be. I think he's already said that he want no part of coaching (and I don't blame him) but I think he has a pretty good idea of what it takes to win and how a team needs to be constructed in order to achieve that.
...I just think he could do just as well, if not better than Cashman...and IMO, it would be good "training" before becoming an owner.

I was going to mull the 3 Q's over, til I say your last post 59,

and I 2nd that notion/motion.....I'd give my balls to see Jeter as a part owner, and or/ owner and GM, now that's exactly what they need upstairs, is Derek's knowledge of the game, and fire for it as well.....

 

[Rick2583]

I was going to mull the 3 Q's over, til I say your last post 59,

and I 2nd that notion/motion.....I'd give my balls to see Jeter as a part owner, and or/ owner and GM, now that's exactly what they need upstairs, is Derek's knowledge of the game, and fire for it as well.....

Jeez Rob, I really hope you're talking about golf balls.

 

[totus44]

I would by have gone as far as Mess did to say DJ isn't the GM type, because I agree he can do whatever he wants to do. However, nothing DJ has said indicates he has any interest in that role either.

Jete was the reluctant captain...not your typical dynamic/overt leader. He's always been very private, I know people that know him personally, he is likely to avoid the constant media scrutiny. You can't have that as a GM. He's also spoken about wanting a family, and if you look at the other core4 as a guide, I think you see very little of him until after he is inducted into the HOF.

Get your Jeter fix these next 2 weeks, because you won't see/hear much until the run up to Cooperstown.

 

[Yankeefan5545]

Jeter in the ownership group would lend concern at the top which seems to be lacking at this time. I heard Jeter once comment on his early days that if you did not produce they'd get rid of you and I believe he'd bring that policy right to the table.

 

[yankeesince59]

...I have not heard him mentioning starting a family either...nor have I heard him say he has no interest in being a GM...not saying he has not said that, just that I have not heard it. I have however, heard him say he's "looking forward to not having a schedule to adhere to all the time"...or something to that effect.

...Cooperstown is 5 years away...and IMO, I don't think he'll go into hiding for that long.

 

[totus44]

I expect we will see as much of Jeter as we see of Mo, Jorge and Andy.

 

[Mattingly23NY]

Jeez Rob, I really hope you're talking about golf balls.

LOL, baseballs, golf balls, footballs, tennis balls, ping pong balls, basketballs, or any other balls I got laying around, even the cahunas, Hell I don't use 'em much anymore anyway.....

 

[Rick2583]

LOL, baseballs, golf balls, footballs, tennis balls, ping pong balls, basketballs, or any other balls I got laying around, even the cahunas, Hell I don't use 'em much anymore anyway.....

Not to mention that at your age you're probably tripping over them.

 

[yankeesince59]

I expect we will see as much of Jeter as we see of Mo, Jorge and Andy.

...none of those 3 has the charisma, public appeal, intelligence, and drive that Jeter does.

...DJ is more marketable than all 3 put together.

 

[blgridesagain]

(#6) "Now if Billy Beans were to become available, all bets are off."

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Billy Beans? Is that the team which hasn't won a playoff series since..........and is in the process of hanging on to a playoff spot by their finger tips after having the best record in baseball a month or so ago?

THAT Billy Bean? Oh, okay

 

[yankeesince59]

...yeah, the same Billy Bean who perennially has one of the lowest payrolls in MLB.

 

[Rick2583]

2012 = 94-68 made playoffs. Payroll = 52.8M
2013 = 96-66 made playoffs. Payroll = 61.9M
2014 = 81-66......................Payroll = 82.3M

 

[blgridesagain]

2012 = 94-68 made playoffs. Payroll = 52.8M
2013 = 96-66 made playoffs. Payroll = 61.9M
2014 = 81-66......................Payroll = 82.3M

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Ooh, look - his highest payroll is going to have the worst record and possibly not make the playoffs. jeez...I thought it would be so easy for a genius if he could increase his payroll by what...(help me out)...32%?


I hope his two year "run" ...lol.... doesn't end this year. har har har

 

[yankeesince59]

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[blgridesagain]

'59 says: "...yeah, the same Billy Bean who perennially has one of the lowest payrolls in MLB".
(post#18)
(Can't blame him, he thought he played the winning card, lol)


blg trumped his card with THIS:

"his (Beane) highest payroll is going to have the worst record and possibly not make the playoffs. jeez...I thought it would be so easy for a genius if he could increase his payroll by what...(help me out)...32%?" (post#20)
2012 = 94-68 made playoffs. Payroll = 52.8M
2013 = 96-66 made playoffs. Payroll = 61.9M
2014 = 81-66......................Payroll = 82.3M

'59, how about some more stamping of your feet and sticking your tongue out?
C'mon, a nice big juicy picture saying nasty things about me.
Translation--> I can't bamboozle this guy. lmao

 

[yankeesince59]

...consistent and classic self ownage. And what's really sad is that you actually believe the inane drivel you type. Even when presented with common sense and facts, you act as if you won some sort of victory.

...like I cited before, discussing Baseball with you "is like playing chess with a pigeon. The pigeon knocks over all the pieces, shits all over the board, then struts around like it won the game."

 

[blgridesagain]

...consistent and classic self ownage. And what's really sad is that you actually believe the inane drivel you type. Even when presented with common sense and facts, you act as if you won some sort of victory.

...like I cited before, discussing Baseball with you "is like playing chess with a pigeon. The pigeon knocks over all the pieces, shits all over the board, then struts around like it won the game."

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...consistent and classic self ownage. And what's really sad is that you actually believe the inane drivel you type. Even when presented with common sense and facts, you act as if you won some sort of victory.

...like I cited before, discussing Baseball with you "is like playing chess with a pigeon. The pigeon knocks over all the pieces, shits all over the board, then struts around like it won the game."

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What the heck are you talking about? Inane drivel? sad?
Excuse me, not all opinions march to the same drummer and you seem to overlook, or conveniently ignore a few facts and sometimes have questionable perspective.
So THERE! Take it or leave it........or maybe you prefer to speak for a couple of your annointed board allies. lol

Billy Beane doesn't earn extra points with me for his low payrolls -
Since 2000, his teams have won a grand total of ONE playoff series.
ONE


You did it again - you keep criticizing, dismissing and discounting my comments, points of view and opinions and when I respond to your delusions of superiority, all you have left is name calling. But I have to admit, you are entertaining.


Oh m'gosh - lets all pray at the feet of Billy Beane.

rotflmao

 

[Mattingly23NY]

Beane deviated from his own philosophy, and I bet it bites him in the ass....

what do they say in Vegas? Never bet the house, or put all your chips on one hand of cards?

I'd say Beane has done just that, put his entire chips on one horse of a Team, by throwing his own theory out the window. I do hope he loses his ass, as the Halos have been in process of doing just that, (handing Billy his ass back)....

Hopefully the A's will fire him, (I honestly never see that happening), then perhaps, the Yanx can pull him off of Skid Row for GM's, and re-rehabilitate him, re-program him, brief him on the Yankee Way, the same way, all Great Yankee GM's worked to, prior to King George's demise, and replace Cash-hole...

He'd be a vast improvement over Cash-hole, yet, he'd have to keep his harness on, to reel him in on occassion, when he gets a wild hair up his ass.....

He never should of let go of his best offensive weapon, and defensive OF'er too, with the snipers arm.

Sure Cespedes B'Avg, and other stats, may not reveal as much. BUT, when you look at his splits with RISP, Yoenis became a beast with a bat, hitting RBI's always when it counted most. As I said, his B'Avg., was less than stellar, yet he rarely left men on base.....just saying, IMO, Beane blew himself up with greedy ignorance...! Yeppers...!

 

[yankeesince59]

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What the heck are you talking about? Inane drivel? sad?
Excuse me, not all opinions march to the same drummer and you seem to overlook, or conveniently ignore a few facts and sometimes have questionable perspective.
So THERE! Take it or leave it........or maybe you prefer to speak for a couple of your annointed board allies. lol

Billy Beane doesn't earn extra points with me for his low payrolls -
Since 2000, his teams have won a grand total of ONE playoff series.
ONE


You did it again - you keep criticizing, dismissing and discounting my comments, points of view and opinions and when I respond to your delusions of superiority, all you have left is name calling. But I have to admit, you are entertaining.


Oh m'gosh - lets all pray at the feet of Billy Beane.

rotflmao

... lol...yes, "inane drivel" pretty much sums it up.

...logic and facts obviously don't matter in your world, and so name calling works best with you because it's the only thing you can understand. You've proven that on a daily basis.

...and for your information, it's not just my opinion, nor just the opinion of my "board allies", (whatever the hell that is)...Billy Beane is widely regarded as one of the best, if not the best GM in the game.

 

[blgridesagain]

... lol...yes, "inane drivel" pretty much sums it up.

...logic and facts obviously don't matter in your world, and so name calling works best with you because it's the only thing you can understand. You've proven that on a daily basis.

...and for your information, it's not just my opinion, nor just the opinion of my "board allies", (whatever the hell that is)...Billy Beane is widely regarded as one of the best, if not the best GM in the game.

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Well, okay. Fair enough.
I never said He was a bad GM. But lets not get silly by saying the only thing I understand is name calling.

One more thing.........

..............how about another great big ridiculous picture? But lay off the kittens.
lol

 

[yankeesince59]

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Well, okay. Fair enough.
I never said He was a bad GM. But lets not get silly by saying the only thing I understand is name calling.


lol

...then WTF is your argument?

...1. Totus said that Beane would be a great replacement for Cashman.

...2. EVERY one of your replies downplayed Beane's ability.

...3. Now, after being called on it, you backtrack by saying "I never said He was a bad GM."



...again, did you even have a point?...or were you once again simply posting only for the sake of posting?







...per your request;

 

[blgridesagain]

...then WTF is your argument?

...1. Totus said that Beane would be a great replacement for Cashman.

...2. EVERY one of your replies downplayed Beane's ability.

...3. Now, after being called on it, you backtrack by saying "I never said He was a bad GM."



...again, did you even have a point?...or were you once again simply posting only for the sake of posting?







...per your request;

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Not back tracking at all- obviously I wasn't enamored with the hint of Beane (if he were available) being some kind of obvious first choice top shelf replacement for Yankee GM if Cashman wasn't brought back. That's all- I just don't feel as if Beane would be such a clear cut fit/success GMing for the Yankees.

And just so you don't think I'm nuts, I felt the need to remind you that I NEVER DID say he was a BAD GM.....I just don't prefer him if he were available.


......and....after all I tried to do for those fukng kittens, this is how they treat me? Little basterds.

 

[Rick2583]

My view of Billy Beane is this, I really don't know of any other GM who gets more for the buck then he does. He's proof that you don't have to spend 150-200M to put a winning product on the field.