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Man I love him. A lot of extra baggage, but he can straight ball!
 
I love me some ZBO!!!!

ZBOEC ballin' it up.

Hoop Fam!!!!!
 
Why oh why did we ever trade Zach???

A Grizzlies fan? Why would I ever drive all the way to Vancouver to see an NBA game?
 
Sac down 3 with about 20 seconds to go, Cousins takes the ball and drives to the basket with ease. I thought it was an interesting call out of a timeout.(at that point in the game) But then i noticed who was covering the young rookie...........
 
Memphis is 14-18.

maybe it matters to a team's record if it's Bigs can't/don't play defense? Just a crazy thought...

and to those who are still crying about the Blazers moving Zach and pointing to stats, it was made perfectly clear at the time that he was moved mostly for the regular off the court fuck ups and lying to team/management.

STOMP
 
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You all have obviously forgot why we got rid of him. I do not miss watching him not run back on defense. I do not miss him jawing with the ref instead of covering his guy while he is down at the other end dunking. In fact if you go back and look at it, the only year Zbo made it to the playoffs is when Rasheed Wallace and Scottie Pippen were still on the team. He never took a team to the playoffs himself. He also was a black hole offensive wise. If the ball went into Zbo, it wasn't coming back out, and teams knew that. He would only rebound on the offensive end for the most part, which would lead to very frustrating defensive posessions. Now that is only the stuff about his play.

How about stiffing the team so he could hang out at the Portland airport strip bar?

How about holding a stripper against her will at a downtown Portland Motel?

How about doing 110 down broadway in a hummer while smoking doobies?

You want Zbo back? Go watch Memphis.

By the way that game, he scored all that in? A loss. What a fucking surprise.
 
At some point we have wanted ZBO, Conley, Gay, Mayo, and Gasol. This team has talent.
I wonder what their issue is................
 
Typical ZBO/Love game. Monster individual stats, gives up as many as he scores, makes a critical defensive error, and his team loses the game to the worst team in the league.

Last night is Zach's career in a nutshell. Love is on the same career path so long as Minnesota thinks he is a franchise player.

Love would be great as a #3 option offensively on a title-contending team. He'd need to play with a great defensive center, though.
 
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At some point we have wanted ZBO, Conley, Gay, Mayo, and Gasol. This team has talent.
I wonder what their issue is................

Clearly they need Nate coaching them, because switching "Grizzlies" with "Blazers" on the front of the uniform would automatically make them 10 games better, and Nate would coach them to another 8 wins.
 
It was definitely time for Zach to move on when KP traded him, I just didn't like what he traded him for (the privilege of buying out Steve Francis' ridiculous contract and Charmin). But good for him for making an all-star game and being a pretty good player and (semi) cleaning up his act.
 
and to those who are still crying about the Blazers moving Zach and pointing to stats, it was made perfectly clear at the time that he was moved simply because Roy demanded it.STOMP

fixed.
 
Trading ZBO when we did was stupid. We got shit for him, it set up the whole imaginary cap space plan which failed and was just one of the bigger KP fuck-ups as Blazers GM. It was a combination of Pritchard's arrogance and the whining of Blazer fans who wanted to cheer for "good guys" (yet they still abandon the team when the good guys are losing).
 
The Blazers were able to get rid of the worst contract in the NBA at the time and haven't had a losing season since. The player with said contract hasn't been on a winning team since the 2002-2003 season.

Lol
 
The Blazers were able to get rid of the worst contract in the NBA at the time and haven't had a losing season since. The player with said contract hasn't been on a winning team since the 2002-2003 season.

Lol

He would have helped this team IMO. Wouldn't have hurt, especially with the injuries and the lack of depth at the 4/5 in the last few years. What we got in return has done some damage...not being able to do any good trades in hope of the lure of cap space 2 seasons ago which ultimately sucked for us.

We actually traded it for the worst contract, in Steve Francis. Paid him what, $28 million over two years just to go away?
 
He would have helped this team IMO. Wouldn't have hurt, especially with the injuries and the lack of depth at the 4/5 in the last few years. What we got in return has done some damage...not being able to do any good trades in hope of the lure of cap space 2 seasons ago which ultimately sucked for us.

We actually traded it for the worst contract, in Steve Francis. Paid him what, $28 million over two years just to go away?

And Zach Randolph is still being paid on the same contract. Terrible. It was the worst contract in the NBA because of the length and the fact it was still on the books for the 2010 FA frenzy that half of the teams in the league were planning for years in advance.

It was supposed to be Aldridge/Oden starting so Zach coming off the bench with that contract would suck. Even without Oden I'll take Aldridge/Przy in the starting lineup before starting Randolph.

It's also very arguable the Blazers got the best value in return for Zach compared to the trades the Knicks and Clippers made.
 
He would have helped this team IMO.

More than Miller is now (Miller is what came of the imaginary cap space, btw)? I am not sure about that. ZBo is a better scorer - but he usually makes most people around him worse. Miller runs a team much better and for most people is actually a lot of help. Add the fact that he actually tries to play defense...


Wouldn't have hurt, especially with the injuries and the lack of depth at the 4/5 in the last few years. What we got in return has done some damage...not being able to do any good trades in hope of the lure of cap space 2 seasons ago which ultimately sucked for us.

The Darius fiasco is what sucked for us. The team went from having tons of cap space to having a nice amount.

We actually traded it for the worst contract, in Steve Francis. Paid him what, $28 million over two years just to go away?

Well, the idea was to have tons of cap space. Unfortunately, the Griz screwed us over and the NBA did nothing to stop them... So - it's Memphis, Darius and David Stern that screwed us, not the zBo trade.
 
He would have helped this team IMO. Wouldn't have hurt, especially with the injuries and the lack of depth at the 4/5 in the last few years. What we got in return has done some damage...not being able to do any good trades in hope of the lure of cap space 2 seasons ago which ultimately sucked for us.

We actually traded it for the worst contract, in Steve Francis. Paid him what, $28 million over two years just to go away?

I mostly agree with you. KP should have been more patient. At the time ZBO's trade value was not great, and KP jumped at the first thing, thinking that NY was the only franchise stupid enough to take him off our hands. But he should have waited for more. Although Frey at the time was considered an asset.
 
I mostly agree with you. KP should have been more patient. At the time ZBO's trade value was not great, and KP jumped at the first thing, thinking that NY was the only franchise stupid enough to take him off our hands. But he should have waited for more. Although Frey at the time was considered an asset.

The Knicks and Clippers got absolute nothing for him so being more patient wouldn't have mattered. His trade value never went up. He had a terrible contract(arguably worst in the NBA) that no one wanted.
 
The Knicks and Clippers got absolute nothing for him so being more patient wouldn't have mattered. His trade value never went up. He had a terrible contract(arguably worst in the NBA) that no one wanted.

And now its an 18 million dollar expiring, which does have value. in the mean time he's been solid as a rock and an NBA allstar.
 
And now its an 18 million dollar expiring, which does have value. in the mean time he's been solid as a rock and an NBA allstar.

How can you say that it has value as an expiring when you are also saying that Raef's expiring was not?

The reality is that due to the Darius fiasco we can come down and say it was zBo or Miller (an expiring as well, btw) - and it is very hard for anyone to think that zBo is actually better. Miller, for all his warts - actually manages to take his teams to the playoffs, something a zBo team has not been able to do since he was a backup for 'Sheed...
 

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