35pts, 17rbs, 3ast, 2stl, 0to

[PapaG]

Wrong. Wesley Matthews has reached the second round of the playoffs as a starting shooting guard. He is more proven than any of Randolph's current teammates.

Matthews put up a PER of 11.8 in the playoffs last season. The Jazz are on a pace to win more games without him this year.

 

[KingSpeed]

So Matthews is more proven than Randolph?

Lol, I see what you're doing here. I won't fall for it.

Randolph has reached the All Star game and is 3-1 in the playoffs as a starter. Randolph and Matthews are both proven. What have Mayo, Gay, Conley, or Gasol proven? It's not about who is more proven. It's about having proven anything at all. Matthews and Randolph are proven talents. Mayo, Gasol, Conley, and Gay have proven nothing. Nothing at all.

 

[RoyToy]

Randolph has reached the All Star game and is 3-1 in the playoffs as a starter.

K .

 

[KingSpeed]

Matthews put up a PER of 11.8 in the playoffs last season. The Jazz are on a pace to win more games without him this year.

PER doesn't account for defense and intangibles. Plus, the Jazz changed their roster in other ways this season. So you can't compare records.

 

[KingSpeed]

K .

Exactly.

 

[RoyToy]

Exactly.

Right!

 

[KingSpeed]

Right!

You got it.

 

[RoyToy]

You got it.

Nice!

 

[Minstrel]

He simply is a Stat Beast who would be a fantastic bench player, IMO.

I disagree. I think he's a Stat Beast who would make a good complementary starter. You want some good defenders around him and he's not an ideal go-to guy because he doesn't have the passing ability to create for others when the defense collapses on him.

 

[PapaG]

I disagree. I think he's a Stat Beast who would make a good complementary starter. You want some good defenders around him and he's not an ideal go-to guy because he doesn't have the passing ability to create for others when the defense collapses on him.

I already posted that thought in another thread. He's a great #3 player who needs good defense in the middle to be a part of a playoff, or even title, team. We agree again, you rascal! I only said bench as it pertains to the Blazers at this point, with LMA starting over Zach.

I feel the same way about Kevin Love, by the bye.

 

[MickZagger]

I already posted that thought in another thread. He's a great #3 player who needs good defense in the middle to be a part of a playoff, or even title, team. We agree again, you rascal! I only said bench as it pertains to the Blazers at this point, with LMA starting over Zach.

I feel the same way about Kevin Love, by the bye.

Love is a black hole on offense?

 

[PapaG]

Love is a black hole on offense?

Read the post that you responded to one more time. If you feel the need to edit your response, I'll understand. If you don't, I'll also understand.

 

[Minstrel]

I feel the same way about Kevin Love, by the bye.

I feel the same way that Love needs to have some good defenders around him, to make up for his defensive weakness, but he actually has good passing skills, so can create for others if he gets doubled. However, he doesn't get doubled a ton, which is why he's not a great #1 guy. He'd make a good second option.

 

[PapaG]

I feel the same way that Love needs to have some good defenders around him, to make up for his defensive weakness, but he actually has good passing skills, so can create for others if he gets doubled. However, he doesn't get doubled a ton, which is why he's not a great #1 guy. He'd make a good second option.

He's a second option right now. Beasley is proving to be a legitimate #1 option on offense. Unfortunately for him, he has to try to cover players like LMA because his "All Star" #2 option can't defend his own shadow, let alone a decent post player. I actually feel bad for Beasley because he is literally the only player on that team worth trying to double-team on offense, and his Stat Beast Love can't defend anyone, forcing Beasley as a SF to try and defend the post.

 

[MickZagger]

He's a second option right now. Beasley is proving to be a legitimate #1 option on offense. Unfortunately for him, he has to try to cover players like LMA because his "All Star" #2 option can't defend his own shadow, let alone a decent post player. I actually feel bad for Beasley because he is literally the only player on that team worth trying to double-team on offense, and his Stat Beast Love can't defend anyone, forcing Beasley as a SF to try and defend the post.

Watch games, not boxscores.

 

[Ed O]

Watch games, not boxscores.

He might have been watching the games where Milicic was hurt... ? I dunno.

Ed O.

 

[PapaG]

Watch games, not boxscores.

I watch the games. I was at the game where Kevin Love had to be pulled from defending LMA in the first quarter.

I suggest you watch the games, and stop looking at boxscores.

 

[PapaG]

He might have been watching the games where Milicic was hurt... ? I dunno.

Ed O.

I was at the game where Milicic started at center. Anyhow, if Darko is the answer, then you're asking the wrong question.

How many games have you seen live this season?

 

[MickZagger]

I watch the games. I was at the game where Kevin Love had to be pulled from defending LMA in the first quarter.

I suggest you watch the games, and stop looking at boxscores.

I've seen you bring up the switch from Love onto Camby instead of Aldridge a couple times. With Aldridge's length and Camby's generally ineffective offensive play, I think it only made sense.

It happens all the time in the NBA. I've watched David West, Jeff Green, Boozer, Millsap and Scola get switched with players when guarding longer players all the time.

Its kind of a weak point that I've seen you bring up multiple times.

 

[MickZagger]

I was at the game where Milicic started at center. Anyhow, if Darko is the answer, then you're asking the wrong question.

How many games have you seen live this season?

The game when Darko got injured within the first 2 minutes of the game...

Sure, he did 'start' though.

 

[Ed O]

I was at the game where Milicic started at center.

Ah. As I had thought.

Anyhow, if Darko is the answer, then you're asking the wrong question.

Darko's been pretty good, and without him the Wolves are very thin up-front.

How many games have you seen live this season?

None. I also haven't done any skydiving.

Who cares?

Ed O.

 

[MickZagger]

The reason I bring up watch the game instead of boxscores, is because Beasley isn't double-teamed at all. He's careless with the rock, either takes the rock to the hoop, or settles for a jumpshot. Players with virtually no ability to score on the low block are almost always played straight up. Very rarely are the doubled. That, and Beasley is just as bad at defense as Love.

You shouldn't feel sorry for him at all.

 

[PapaG]

The reason I bring up watch the game instead of boxscores, is because Beasley isn't double-teamed at all. He's careless with the rock, either takes the rock to the hoop, or settles for a jumpshot. Players with virtually no ability to score on the low block are almost always played straight up. Very rarely are the doubled. That, and Beasley is just as bad at defense as Love.

You shouldn't feel sorry for him at all.

Neither is Love. Plus, Beasley has to play out of position on defense to make up for Love's ineptitude.

With that, I never get tired of defending Blazer players against fanbois, and their newest favorite on another team, like you.

 

[PapaG]

Darko's been pretty good
Ed O.

Darko has a PER of 13.3 with a WS of 0.2. His Ortg is 93, and his Drtg is 108.

That is pretty bad.

 

[MickZagger]

Neither is Love. Plus, Beasley has to play out of position on defense to make up for Love's ineptitude.

With that, I never get tired of defending Blazer players against fanbois, and their newest favorite on another team, like you.

lol making strawmans?

Point out where I ever said Love was double-teamed.

 

[PapaG]

lol making strawmans?

Point out where I ever said Love was double-teamed.

I never said you did claim it. LMA is now consistently double-teamed, however. Watch the games, and stop reying on boxscores.

 

[MickZagger]

Darko has a PER of 13.3 with a WS of 0.2. His Ortg is 93, and his Drtg is 108.

That is pretty bad.

Those stats account for Darko's shot blocking ability?

Darko was brought up because you said Beasley has to cover players like LMA. heh.

 

[MickZagger]

I never said you did claim it. LMA is now consistently double-teamed, however. Watch the games, and stop reying on boxscores.

I haven't been seeing these consistent double-teams on Aldridge. I'm also not really sure what Aldridge has to do with our little convo here.

You're all over the place, bud.

 

[PapaG]

I haven't been seeing these consistent double-teams on Aldridge. I'm also not really sure what Aldridge has to do with our little convo here.

You're all over the place, bud.

This thread is all over the place.

 

[VanillaGorilla]

I've seen it done but I don't know how to do it.