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[riverman]

Well, there ya go, then.

Had to buy my own condoms....nobody's taxes gave them to me

 

[ABM]

But I just don't see any reason to stop teens from having sex. That seems like a weird goal.

But I just don't see any reason to urge teens to use seatbelts. That seems like a weird goal.

 

[riverman]

But I just don't see any reason to urge teens to use seatbelts. That seems like a weird goal.

Using seat belts for birth control seems a bit extreme if you ask me!

 

[SlyPokerDog]

When did @ABM become the 2nd coming of Nancy Reagan?

Just say no?!?

 

[ABM]

Using seat belts for birth control seems a bit extreme if you ask me!

Don't be obtuse.

The sarcastic point was....keep educating health and safety. Some of it may very well stick.

 

[riverman]

Don't be obtuse.

learn the green font....…..

 

[barfo]

But I just don't see any reason to urge teens to use seatbelts. That seems like a weird goal.

I think you botched that analogy pretty badly. Using a seatbelt is more similar to using a condom than it is to not having sex at all.

What you are advocating for, abstinence, is more like telling teens to never get into an automobile.

Because those horseless carriages are the work of the devil!

barfo

 

[Hoopguru]

Teachers do have a tremendous influence on young peoples lives, in many ways.
Whenever we go to a grandkids game it's not unusual for kids representing two generations to come up and give my wife a big hug, and comment on how she effected their kids lives in the class room.
I agree with River on teaching, coaching kids on how to learn and apply themselves.
The teachers responsibilities are huge, and it always upset my wife when she reported potential abuse, which is more common than you'd realize.

 

[riverman]

Because those horseless carriages are the work of the devil!

 

[Natebishop3]

Right to life is too critical of an issue for me.

Where do you stand on the death penalty?

 

[PtldPlatypus]

Where do you stand on the death penalty?

My guess would be that he'd rather it be used on those who've engaged in actions that might deserve it rather than on those who've yet to take a breath.

Much like other rights, even the right to life can be forfeit.

 

[ABM]

I think you botched that analogy pretty badly. Using a seatbelt is more similar to using a condom than it is to not having sex at all.

What you are advocating for, abstinence, is more like telling teens to never get into an automobile.

Actually, I didn't botch a thing. If you had been reading some of my associated comments, I think you would realize that I'm all about the "education". The crash films analogy was the first thing that came to mind. Health and safety go hand-in-hand in many cases. I'm not naive enough to think kids aren't going to have sex before marriage. However, that certainly doesn't mean our educators throw their collective hands up and simply hand out condoms.....and even without parents' knowledge! That said, sex education begins in the home. Great place to start.

Moreover, our schools are increasingly becoming unsafe environments. I've become much more of a proponent of home, charter, and/or private schools.

 

[ABM]

Where do you stand on the death penalty?

It's a really good, and complicated, question. In my mind, there are supporting cases either way that I guess part of me agrees with, and part doesn't.

I know that's a rather lame non-answer, but I'm truly undecided on that issue.

 

[ABM]

Had to buy my own condoms....nobody's taxes gave them to me

Booyah!

 

[Lanny]

I was teasing ABM because he's a conservative advocating for government to have a bigger role. Me personally, yes, I think sex ed is a good thing.



I was referring to human nature, not a government program. Teens have always wanted to have sex, and I predict they always will.

There are ways to stop teens from having sex, but everyone who can remember being a teenager knows that counseling them on the 'emotional hazard' is not going to be very effective. Physical restraint 24/7/365 would work.

But I just don't see any reason to stop teens from having sex. That seems like a weird goal.

barfo

I think you've got teens pegged all wrong. They're not interested in either sex or beer. Why, the very thought makes me want to find one and wash his/her mouth out with soap.

 

[ABM]

learn the green font....…..

I understand green font quite well. I probably don't use it near enough. Anyway, it's all good. For the record, though, in no way was I directly equating the safety belt/sex ed examples other than to say they both deal with education. And, again, handing out condoms should not be the role of our schools!

Speaking of handouts, check out what's been happening in San Francisco: Spend the public money to hand out syringes to drug user....then spend public money to clean them up off the streets. Makes total sense to me! What a deal!

https://sf.curbed.com/2018/4/23/17272574/mark-farrell-syringes-san-francisco-clean-up

 

[Hobbesarable]

Yes how I parent is especially important, but society will always play a large role in the upbringing, “moral” compass of a child. Unless you 100% isolate them from the word theres no way around that.

I expect teachers to uphold their end of the bargain as they’re PART of society, and they get hours with children to put things in their minds.

I would not depend on the teachers to provide that. The State and school board determine the material for which a teacher uses for their classroom. And the subjects are taught in a way towards State testing. That is not necessarily good. The teacher, depending on the subject, may only have 1 to 2 personal max minutes with each student every day. The teacher is advised heavily towards teaching to a test rather than expanding the child's mind.

Besides, morality can have different views depending on the lens of the teacher. A vast majority of teachers in Portland teaching history, politics, and/or social studies tend to teach through a Democrat lens. Meaning they have few good things to say about the Republican party. This is just one example of a subject being taught to children that should be taught objectively and is not.

These are some things to think about.

 

[barfo]

Meaning they have few good things to say about the Republican party. This is just one example of a subject being taught to children that should be taught objectively and is not.

Objectively, are there any good things to say about the Republican party?

barfo

 

[ABM]

Objectively, are there any good things to say about the Republican party?

barfo

Sure, pull yourself up by your bootstraps and quit expecting handouts. Entitlement is not a right.

(Oh, crap! Should that have been green font?! )

 

[riverman]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_United_States_presidential_election#Nominations
Just to get the thread back on track...the Libertarian, Green, Independent and Solidarity Party candidates are listed here as well as two Independent candidates....John McAfee is the only name I recognize in the 3rd party running on the Libertarian ticket....he's as crazy as Trump so he might have a chance.

BUMP

 

[PtldPlatypus]

Sure, pull yourself up by your bootstraps and quit expecting handouts. Entitlement is not a right.

...unless you're a billionaire business owner...

 

[TorturedBlazerFan]

So i hear Eric’s having an awesome Party. Then we’ll head over to Lisa’s. After that, Timmy and Diane’s party seem to be starting at the same time. I want to go to Diane’s but my kids want to go to Timmy’s. I hate when we fight over our candidates for a third party!

 

[Hoopguru]

Objectively, are there any good things to say about the Republican party?

barfo

If people don't get away from the dogma they've been entrenched with, and continue to be not receptive to other points of view's, there is no promise for change or compromise.
Change your position on whatever and you can change your perspective on things. Otherwise its just the same old crap and rut.

 

[barfo]

Objectively, are there any good things to say about the Republican party?

barfo

If people get away from the dogma they've been entrenched with, and continue to be not receptive to other points of view's, there is promise.
Change your position on whatever and you can change your perspective on things. Otherwise its just the same old crap and rut.

So, that's a no?

barfo

 

[barfo]

BUMP

I'm happy to see that Vermin Supreme is running again. And this guy looks promising:

barfo

 

[Hoopguru]

So, that's a no?

barfo

read it again, i corrected a few things.lol

 

[barfo]

read it again, i corrected a few things.lol

So, that's still a no?

There's nothing good to say about them, and it is highly likely to stay that way?

barfo

 

[Hoopguru]

So, that's still a no?

There's nothing good to say about them, and it is highly likely to stay that way?

barfo

It goes for both parties! change up your position and change your perspective, its healthy!

 

[ABM]

...unless you're a billionaire business owner...

How did that billionaire business owner become a billionaire business owner?

For all intents and purposes, everyone starts from somewhere. Dude, this is the American way! Why is it now that billionaires, the 1%, or whatever, are seemingly becoming the bane of our society? Sure, there are bad eggs, but there are far, far more good eggs, philanthropic types, and the like. Shoot look at Howard Schultz. He's in the 1%. Hmmm....I wonder if he's still considering running?

 

[barfo]

It goes for both parties! change up your position and change your perspective, its healthy!

Ok, I love Trump. What he's doing to wreck the economy, destroy the planet, destroy our standing abroad, and enrich himself at our expense is the best thing ever!

And the Republican party backs him all the way, which is definitely an awesome thing about the Republican Party.

I don't understand why they don't teach this in schools. Maybe they could hand out Trump-branded condoms? The only problem I foresee is that the size might be too small.

barfo