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Claud

Claud

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Dont you guys think we need that to start thinking about rebuilding? we cant rebuild if we dont have the main piece to build around! isnt that simple logic? And if you say Devin Harris You are wrong. He s a good piece to have, a solid piece to the puzzle, but he is not one of the main pieces we need to become a championship caliber team once again.



Any thoughts?
 
A franchise player is often found in the draft. Our team has young talent but we have no centerpeice like Dwight, LeBron or even a Oden.

We need to find one or we will just float around.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Universe @ Mar 9 2008, 04:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>A franchise player is often found in the draft. Our team has young talent but we have no centerpeice like Dwight, LeBron or even a Oden.

We need to find one or we will just float around.</div>

Agreed. We may stumble into him late in the lottery...whether it be through not making the playoffs; or through a trade.

Or, we could get lucky a la Jason Kidd. Hell, who knows...maybe Devin will develop into that franchise player.
 
If we manage to get a decent pick in the lottery, and OJ Mayo falls to us, does anyone think he'd be a franchise player? I don't watch much college ball, but I do his name thrown about as a talented young player.
 
cough michael beasley... PRAYING we can get him. give isiah a grilled cheese sandwich for their pick
 
BEASLEY is amazing and is goin to be #1 overall... and will prolly win R.O.Y unless of course injury
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (logik15 @ Mar 9 2008, 04:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>cough michael beasley... PRAYING we can get him. give isiah a grilled cheese sandwich for their pick</div>

I highly doubt Beasley will be in a Nets uniform. Infact, I can guarantee he won't.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Base @ Mar 9 2008, 05:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (logik15 @ Mar 9 2008, 04:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>cough michael beasley... PRAYING we can get him. give isiah a grilled cheese sandwich for their pick</div>

I highly doubt Beasley will be in a Nets uniform. Infact, I can guarantee he won't.
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we snatch him with Dallas's pick
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Belarus @ Mar 9 2008, 05:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Base @ Mar 9 2008, 05:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (logik15 @ Mar 9 2008, 04:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>cough michael beasley... PRAYING we can get him. give isiah a grilled cheese sandwich for their pick</div>

I highly doubt Beasley will be in a Nets uniform. Infact, I can guarantee he won't.
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we snatch him with Dallas's pick

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We'll see
 
O.J. MAYO

or we can just start building around LeBron now so when we arrives in 2010 we'll be ready for him
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (J-HoAgZ @ Mar 9 2008, 05:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>O.J. MAYO

or we can just start building around LeBron now so when we arrives in 2010 we'll be ready for him
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OK..........
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (J-HoAgZ @ Mar 9 2008, 05:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>O.J. MAYO

or we can just start building around LeBron now so when we arrives in 2010 we'll be ready for him
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We cant be making plans about something that might happen. we dont know for sure yet...
 
I'm actually really hoping for OJ Mayo. We need shooting off the bench, an eventual replacement scoring 2-guard for Vince, and a player that won't cause a logjam with our PF/C and PG rotations. He's also the scoring guard that could compliment any possible FA that might come in 2010
 
ok... i kno oj mayo can score... but we would need to unload either jefferson or carter so mayo can come into a startin role... but is he really what he is all hyped up to be?
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (danxcr @ Mar 9 2008, 07:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>ok... i kno oj mayo can score... but we would need to unload either jefferson or carter so mayo can come into a startin role... but is he really what he is all hyped up to be?</div>

Well is the goal to simply draft a guy who is a starter for the sake of starting, or draft a guy who fits a need now and can be a franchise player once Vince leaves?

You don't have to trade your starters because you're afraid of having depth.
 
Kobe didn't start right off the bat. Infact, many players played behind other people before their own careers took off. Michael Redd and Rashard Lewis also come to mind.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GMJigga @ Mar 9 2008, 07:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I'm actually really hoping for OJ Mayo. We need shooting off the bench, an eventual replacement scoring 2-guard for Vince, and a player that won't cause a logjam with our PF/C and PG rotations. He's also the scoring guard that could compliment any possible FA that might come in 2010</div>

He has to leave school for that to happen, which is far from a done deal.
 
I still think we have to wait for everything to unfold... like what position we end up at the end of the season, and then assume possible picks.
If we get a top 5 pick... then def not OJ, we can wait on him and probs get him with our Dallas pick. bt i doubted.

I been scouting Anthony randolph, and people are comparing him to Chris bosh, he can rebound, shoot, post up, block. and he is 18 years old. The only problem is he is kinda skinny, he needs to bulk u, but like i said hes only 18, he can do it.. i actually suggest we draft him.
 
The Nets' biggest problem is that they are in NBA purgatory. I know it well since I was a Warriors fan for many years. NBA purgatory is when a team is always good enough to not get a top 10 pick but bad enough to not make the playoffs and/or has a losing record. Its hard to get guys who have franchise-changing impact at 10-14, your team still sucks ass but not enough to where you can actually draft a player who will elevate the franchise.

I think at 10-14 the Nets would be extremely lucky to get OJ Mayo. Hes having a somewhat disappointing college season but it also seems like his game is completely built to succeed in the pros rather than the NCAAs. Hes got a sick shooting stroke, underrated defense, hes a pretty good passer for a guy who projects to be a SG and hes got a good handle. He doesn't penetrate consistently and I don't think hes that good of an athlete, definitely good enough for the NBA but hes not Dwyane Wade. He'll be a good player.

Outside of that if you're looking for a potential franchise player that late in the draft you're going to want to hope Anthony Randolph or Dorrell Wright fall. Maybe Hibbert if you guys want someone who could be a good post scorer but your frontcourt looks pretty full as is. Hendrix is another guy who may be able to be a go-to post scorer if his game translates to the NBA.

They really need to dump VC and RJ in the offseason and get a top 5 pick. Its extremely difficult to get a "franchise player" otherwise.
 
The high school rule screwed us. We are never going to get a 1 - 5 where the top freshman are often at and the rest are 21 years old. By the time they get playing time and are proven, they are in the middle like Devin Harris where it's hard to build around.

Our coach will not allow for progression of a young guy. Sean Williams to be dominate would have to be stuck playing a lot of minutes often like LaMarcus did this year. We are stuck playing Diop who is 27 along with Swift who is also older which is no good when we are going to miss the playoffs anyway.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Universe @ Mar 9 2008, 07:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>The high school rule screwed us. We are never going to get a 1 - 5 where the top freshman are often at and the rest are 21 years old. By the time they get playing time and are proven, they are in the middle like Devin Harris where it's hard to build around.</div>
Over the long term the high school rule will help the NBA...in the short term yeah it sucks.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (King John da FiF @ Mar 9 2008, 06:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>If the nets don't make the playoffs, frank must be fired.</div>




Even if we make the playoffs he has to be fired, or he has to resign.
Unless we win it all for some weird reason.. lol
 
I'm just curious, who is the "franchise player" for Detroit?

Is Dwyane Wade a franchise player? Was Kevin Garnett a franchise player while he was with Minnesota, and is he a franchise player now?

I think people are putting too much emphasis on having that one superstar. Basketball is a team game. In my mind Tim Duncan is pretty much the only player in the league who by himself makes his team a championship contender, and even he has had major help from players like Parker and Ginobli, and a great coach/GM in Poppovich.

The Nets should build something like what the Pistons have: great starters at every position and outstanding depth off the bench, with players who complement each other, and competent coaching.

The Nets don't need to be blown up, the. Here's what they need:

1. Add one or two wing shooters off the bench
2. Add a legitimate scoring threat in the low post (perhaps through development of a current Net)
3. Take playmaking opportunties away from Jefferson and give them to Harris, Williams and Carter
4. Get competent coaching

With just these things happening, I believe the Nets can be serious contenders for the conference championship for years to come.
 
another thing about mayo... he doesnt have any defense... or maybe hes not tryin at USC
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (danxcr @ Mar 9 2008, 09:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>another thing about mayo... he doesnt have any defense... or maybe hes not tryin at USC</div>
Did anybody watch the USC Memphis game early this season? Mayo did an outstanding job...honestly I see him being a mix of Chauncey Billups and Ray Allen...
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Joey FistPump @ Mar 9 2008, 10:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (danxcr @ Mar 9 2008, 09:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>another thing about mayo... he doesnt have any defense... or maybe hes not tryin at USC</div>
Did anybody watch the USC Memphis game early this season? Mayo did an outstanding job...honestly I see him being a mix of Chauncey Billups and Ray Allen...
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so is he all what he is hyped up to be?
 
Our best opportunity to get a franchise type player within the Kidd era passed when KG was traded to the Celtics.

Look, there are only a select few players in this league worth building around. Kobe, LeBron, DHoward, KG, Dwyane Wade to name a few.

The only way to get one of these players, is to a. Suck enough to get a high lottery pick. B. Have enough money to entice them to come. C. Have enough pieces to either rip off somebody or take advantage of a bad situation (i.e. KG).

Until we do one of those three things, talking about a franchise player is useless. The way we've been playing it looks like we're going to be mediocre at the very best. And it may be a pipe dream, but really our best shot at one of these players is LeBron 2010.
 
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