A Great LA Trade Thst Should Happen but Won't

[cmeese47]

He's more proven offensively than Favors, and we need a solid offensive player in the frontcourt. IMO, Monroe pairs better with Lopez than Favors does.

Edit: They're actually relatively comparable when looking at the per/36 and advanced stats, with Favors having more blocks and fouls, and Monroe having more assists. Neither are world-beaters defensively, but Monroe is more of a low-post offensive threat, whereas Favors is more of a garbage-man undersized center type. We already have Robinson for that role.

6'11 253 for Monroe 7'2 wing span standing reach 9'.5
6'10 268 for Favors I am not sure you can call him undersized especially with a 7'4 wing span and a 9'2 standing reach.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

6'11 253 for Monroe 7'2 wing span standing reach 9'.5
6'10 268 for Favors I am not sure you can call him undersized especially with a 7'4 wing span and a 9'2 standing reach.

I think you missed the point. I wouldn't want another center. We already have several. A PF--or more specifically, someone who plays like a PF--fits better. Plus, I also like the idea of Monroe's passing ability in our offense.

And I'm not sure where you're getting 268 lbs for Favors, but I don't buy it.

 

[blue9]

I haven't watched Favors much (or Monroe, for that matter - but more than Favors) but I've never been impressed by him. I don't feel like you can give the ball to Favors in the post and expect him to put the ball through the hoop - basically, I think he gets his points off clean-up duty. Whether that's true or not, I don't know - that's just the impression I've gotten from seeing him the few times we play UTH each season.

With Monroe you can actually utilize him as a scoring option - give him the ball and he'll do a pretty good job of putting it through the hoop. I know they have the same FG%, but from what I've seen Monroe creates scoring opportunities while Favors is mostly on the receiving end of scoring opportunities created by others. Again, not sure if that's true - just my impression.

I think Monroe has a much higher ceiling than Favors, too.

 

[cmeese47]

I think you missed the point. I wouldn't want another center. We already have several. A PF--or more specifically, someone who plays like a PF--fits better. Plus, I also like the idea of Monroe's passing ability in our offense.

And I'm not sure where you're getting 268 lbs for Favors, but I don't buy it.

http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/4257/derrick-favors right there at the top he was 245 at the combine.

 

[cmeese47]

I haven't watched Favors much (or Monroe, for that matter - but more than Favors) but I've never been impressed by him. I don't feel like you can give the ball to Favors in the post and expect him to put the ball through the hoop - basically, I think he gets his points off clean-up duty. Whether that's true or not, I don't know - that's just the impression I've gotten from seeing him the few times we play UTH each season.

With Monroe you can actually utilize him as a scoring option - give him the ball and he'll do a pretty good job of putting it through the hoop. I know they have the same FG%, but from what I've seen Monroe creates scoring opportunities while Favors is mostly on the receiving end of scoring opportunities created by others. Again, not sure if that's true - just my impression.

I think Monroe has a much higher ceiling than Favors, too.

I would agree that Monroe is offensively superior but he certainly does not stretch the floor. Only 14% of his career shots have come beyond 10 feet. Favors on the other hand was around 25% and neither are particularly efficient out of the paint. Therefore since their roles on offense would be fairly similar, low post scorers, I would prefer Favors who is a better athlete, a better defender and won't be expecting a max salary.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/4257/derrick-favors right there at the top he was 245 at the combine.

Gotcha. So were I to revise the statement that sent you down that rabbit trail, I'd say, "Favors is more of a garbage-man frontcourt player. We already have Robinson for that role." Point still stands--Monroe fits our roster better than Favors does, especially considering that Favors is now a $13M/year guy (got his extension last summer, starting this year). Their respective salaries will differ by only a couple million.

 

[cmeese47]

Gotcha. So were I to revise the statement that sent you down that rabbit trail, I'd say, "Favors is more of a garbage-man frontcourt player. We already have Robinson for that role." Point still stands--Monroe fits our roster better than Favors does, especially considering that Favors is now a $13M/year guy (got his extension last summer, starting this year). Their respective salaries will differ by only a couple million.

Personally I think the team needs to get better defensively, I am sure Favors would help in that area plus his physical style would be a nice change of pace from the finesse we have seen from our bigs since Pryzbilla went to Charlotte. Also since he is known to commit fouls he would actually open up some playing time for Robinson to come in and contribute. Furthermore, since Lillard will not become a good defender over night we need a big who can protect the rim and Favors is a much better shot blocker than Monroe.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

Favors' defensive numbers aren't that great, and his propensity for fouling show that he's no great shakes in that area. The likelihood of him getting into foul trouble is not really a great selling point, and considering that he's supposed to cover for the turnstile that currently is Lillard's perimeter defense, that means we'd be lucky to see him on the floor for 15 minutes a night. Not what I want for $13M. Offensively, Monroe is relatively physical as well, plus (as mentioned above), he actually plays a low post game, which many in here have been dying to see from Aldridge.

I see where you're coming from; I just disagree. I'm enjoying this conversation though.

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

I'd like you all to remember to attack the trade, not the person who posted the trade.

The trade is the dumbest thing in the history of man. The trade should jump off of a cliff to save us from future generations of stupid trades. If this trade was on the left of a sweet old lady in a crosswalk and Hitler was to it's right, I would swerve LEFT if my brakes failed.

This trade is soooooooooooo ugly I took it to the zoo and they thanked me for bringing it back.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

The trade is the dumbest thing in the history of man. The trade should jump off of a cliff to save us from future generations of stupid trades. If this trade was on the left of a sweet old lady in a crosswalk and Hitler was to it's right, I would swerve LEFT if my brakes failed.

This trade is soooooooooooo ugly I took it to the zoo and they thanked me for bringing it back.

Rep'd!

 

[magnifier661]

The trade is the dumbest thing in the history of man. The trade should jump off of a cliff to save us from future generations of stupid trades. If this trade was on the left of a sweet old lady in a crosswalk and Hitler was to it's right, I would swerve LEFT if my brakes failed.

This trade is soooooooooooo ugly I took it to the zoo and they thanked me for bringing it back.

Hahahahahhahahaha

 

[cmeese47]

The trade is the dumbest thing in the history of man. The trade should jump off of a cliff to save us from future generations of stupid trades. If this trade was on the left of a sweet old lady in a crosswalk and Hitler was to it's right, I would swerve LEFT if my brakes failed.

This trade is soooooooooooo ugly I took it to the zoo and they thanked me for bringing it back.

SlyPokerDog sucks.

 

[Strenuus]

Bless your heart I am so glad that your father did not bother to look at the expiration date of the condom he had been carrying around for 2 years before inserting it into your mother. We get to read your amazing diatribes and obviously brilliant insight into the game of basketball.

Just in case It gets edited.

 

[Minstrel]

Bless your heart I am so glad that your father did not bother to look at the expiration date of the condom he had been carrying around for 2 years before inserting it into your mother. We get to read your amazing diatribes and obviously brilliant insight into the game of basketball.

Attack the post, not the poster, please.

 

[cmeese47]

Attack the post, not the poster, please.

I said I am glad he exists and said his diatribes were amazing and he had brilliant insight. Now compliments are being edited I don't get it.

 

[Minstrel]

I said I am glad he exists and said his diatribes were amazing and he had brilliant insight. Now compliments are being edited I don't get it.

Don't lie, you just made it LOOK like SlyPokerDog edited your post.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Don't lie, you just made it LOOK like SlyPokerDog edited your post.

Damn... you... all... to... hell!

 

[cmeese47]

Damn... you... all... to... hell!

Sly why was my complement edited? Do you not like bodyman or feel he deserved to be complemented?

 

[BigGameDamian]

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[SlyPokerDog]

Sly why was my complement edited? Do you not like bodyman or feel he deserved to be complemented?

Attack his post and leave his mother and father out of it.

And it didn't really read like a complement.

 

[The_Lillard_King]

I said I am glad he exists and said his diatribes were amazing and he had brilliant insight. Now compliments are being edited I don't get it.

I agree with your post . . . you don't get it.

 

[cmeese47]

Attack his post and leave his mother and father out of it.

And it didn't really read like a complement.

Who else am I supposed to thank for bringing him into the world?

 

[Minstrel]

Passive aggressiveness...novel. Why hasn't anyone else tried that before on the internets?

 

[The_Lillard_King]

Who else am I supposed to thank for bringing him into the world?

I'm sure you can do better than a 2 yr expired condom

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Who else am I supposed to thank for bringing him into the world?

SlyPokerDog sucks!

 

[cmeese47]

I'm sure you can do better than a 2 yr expired condom

I guess your right, I have no idea if his dad just went in bareback or not, the expired condom example was just a literary device. Details be damned, the point stands I am glad he is here to teach me about running a basketball team though.

 

[magnifier661]

I guess your right, I have no idea if his dad just went in bareback or not, the expired condom example was just a literary device. Details be damned, the point stands I am glad he is here to teach me about running a basketball team though.

Someone has to. Your ideas would get a gm fired...

 

[cmeese47]

Someone has to. Your ideas would get a gm fired...

Or win a title, at least that is what happens every season in 2K14.

 

[The_Lillard_King]

I guess your right, I have no idea if his dad just went in bareback or not, the expired condom example was just a literary device. Details be damned, the point stands I am glad he is here to teach me about running a basketball team though.

Someone has to, I'm concerned that your basketball takes are a little . . . off:

I stand by my previous assertion, we don't know if Batum or Lopez love cock or not this is 2014 its now okay to love cock and play in the NBA.

It would certainly explain a lot watching them play, Batum is the prissy closet type gay and Lopez is the masculine bear type. Lopez is a great center because he loves grinding his sweaty body against other men, making him more willing to box out, play close defense or fight for balls in traffic.
-cmeese47

 

[cmeese47]

Someone has to, I'm concerned that your basketball takes are a little . . . off:

I stand by my previous assertion, we don't know if Batum or Lopez love cock or not this is 2014 its now okay to love cock and play in the NBA.

It would certainly explain a lot watching them play, Batum is the prissy closet type gay and Lopez is the masculine bear type. Lopez is a great center because he loves grinding his sweaty body against other men, making him more willing to box out, play close defense or fight for balls in traffic.
-cmeese47

Does Lopez not box out, play close defense and fight for balls in traffic?