OT ACAB All Cops Are Bastards (yes EVERY one)

[dviss1]

I didn't say there wouldn't be pushback. We're seeing pushback now. Hence the police not doing their job.

This is just untrue.

 

[dviss1]

okay. And i can say its not logical to think there wont be push back.
Its all assumptions.
You seem believe all will be kumbaya and i think thats not logical.

Bro FUCK Kumbaya. My people are being killed by these MFs...

IDGAF what they sing, we need police accountability in this country and we've NEVER had it.

This shit has been PLANNED bro... And the fact that you still shill for these police lets me know you know nothing about it.

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In 1850, a publication provided guidance to slave owners on how to produce the “ideal slave”:

• Maintain strict discipline and “unconditional submission”;
• Create a sense of personal inferiority, so slaves “know their place”;
• Instill fear in the minds of slaves;
• Teach the servants to take interest in the master’s enterprise; and
• Ensure that the slave is uneducated, helpless, and dependent by depriving them of access to education and recreation

 

[Phatguysrule]

This is just untrue.

You're right. I guess Portland Police are doing an exemplary job. My bad.

Go Portland Police!

 

[Phatguysrule]

Bro FUCK Kumbaya. My people are being killed by these MFs...

Yep. So are mine. It's bullshit and needs to stop.

 

[dviss1]

You're right. I guess Portland Police are doing an exemplary job. My bad.

Go Portland Police!

They're doing the exact job they were sanctioned to do. It's working AS designed man...

• Maintain strict discipline and “unconditional submission”;
• Create a sense of personal inferiority, so slaves “know their place”;
• Instill fear in the minds of slaves;
• Teach the servants to take interest in the master’s enterprise; and
• Ensure that the slave is uneducated, helpless, and dependent by depriving them of access to education and recreation

 

[dviss1]

Yep. So are mine. It's bullshit and needs to stop.

Just fucking stop.... the "so are mine" bullshit is a support of the white supremacy.

I don't need to go into the numbers to let you know what's happening to black people all over the country.

White mass shooters are being taken in ALIVE.... Wake up.

 

[dviss1]

Yep. So are mine. It's bullshit and needs to stop.

Ok, sorry for the knee jerk response. I read this too fast and misinterpreted the inflection.

You're right.

 

[Phatguysrule]

They're doing the exact job they were sanctioned to do. It's working AS designed man...

• Maintain strict discipline and “unconditional submission”;
• Create a sense of personal inferiority, so slaves “know their place”;
• Instill fear in the minds of slaves;
• Teach the servants to take interest in the master’s enterprise; and
• Ensure that the slave is uneducated, helpless, and dependent by depriving them of access to education and recreation

That's not why I support paying police. Most Americans would agree.

Let's not start pissing on eachother over semantics.

 

[dviss1]

That's not why I support paying police. Most Americans would agree.

Let's not start pissing on eachother over semantics.

It' not semantics. Their first job was Slave Patrol. They've never stopped being the slave patrol. This is my point.
They still employ the same tactics as the Willie Lynch book. The police force is working as it was designed.

 

[Phatguysrule]

Just fucking stop.... the "so are mine" bullshit is a support of the white supremacy.

I don't need to go into the numbers to let you know what's happening to black people all over the country.

White mass shooters are being taken in ALIVE.... Wake up.

Fuck your divisive bullshit. These are my people.







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https://www.opb.org/article/2021/06...alled-911-himself-seeking-mental-health-care/

https://khn.org/news/police-killing-mental-illness-emergency-crisis-care-pennsylvania/

 

[Orion Bailey]

I didn't say there wouldn't be pushback. We're seeing pushback now. Hence the police not doing their job.

The only people who want civil war are the right wing nut jobs who supported the attempted insurrection on the capital.

That's who you sound like.

But when people vote in leaders who hold cops accountable, or at worst, shut down the city police department or simply enforce a nationwide standard certificate system for police which can be revoked upon ruling of unprofessional behavior. Who are those nut jobs going to attack? The state police who take over? Are they going to attack county or state buildings because a cop can no longer be a police officer after shooting or beating a black kid?

I'm asking you to think logically about this rather than just throwing out threats of civil war. Civil War with who? Police, KKK, Boogaloo Boys and Proud Boys against who?

I'm simply asking for any scenario which seems reasonable to you. I'm not asking you to predict the exact future. If civil war is inevitable if we force fast change there must be dozens of ways it could start.

Just actually try to step through a logical chain of events that would have to happen to get to the point of civil war by giving everybody Universal Healthcare, universal community college, and firing/prosecuting law enforcement who abuse their position of power, over say, the next decade.

Walk as through a reasonable progression.

if thats who i sound like then i dont thino you have read my posts. No where did i say thats what i want. No where did i provide any support for the right wing nutjobs. However i dont discredit their ability to attempt undermine the movement it it moves too quickly.
If anything the raid on the capital supports my opinion.

the main difference is you think we can fund everything. I don't think we can. No sustainably. Its been proven that providing universal everything has failed in the long run.
people are already lazier now than they were two years ago.
Helo wanted signs wverywhere but people sitting ar home collecting money.
This is not good for the economic infrastructure and will eventually send it spiraling. Look at inflation already???
Give money out and prices increase. No one saved a dime by getting handouts, as were all paying more for everything.
i mean, to me the signs are clear. But im trying to look way down the path. NOt just right before me.
The conservatives will not allow money to dwindle away and will fight back.

 

[Phatguysrule]

It' not semantics. Their first job was Slave Patrol. They've never stopped being the slave patrol. This is my point.
They still employ the same tactics as the Willie Lynch book. The police force is working as it was designed.

And again, that's not why I choose to pay police. Most Americans would agree.

 

[Phatguysrule]

if thats who i sound like then i dont thino you have read my posts. No where did i say thats what i want. No where did i provide any support for the right wing nutjobs. However i dont discredit their ability to attempt undermine the movement it it moves too quickly.
If anything the raid on the capital supports my opinion.

the main difference is you think we can fund everything. I don't think we can. No sustainably. Its been proven that providing universal everything has failed in the long run.
people are already lazier now than they were two years ago.
Helo wanted signs wverywhere but people sitting ar home collecting money.
This is not good for the economic infrastructure and will eventually send it spiraling. Look at inflation already???
Give money out and prices increase. No one saved a dime by getting handouts, as were all paying more for everything.
i mean, to me the signs are clear. But im trying to look way down the path. NOt just right before me.
The conservatives will not allow money to dwindle away and will fight back.

We can address these issues after you back up the Civil War fearmongoring.

Give us a reasonable scenerio in which half of the country supports fighting the other half because police are being held accountable and our education and healthcare are paid for via taxes in 2031.

Do you think that would be the result? What if Biden pushed through legislation next year that forced all of it to happen over a decade.

If so, you're making the claim. I'm taking your claim seriously. Please, walk me through it.

 

[Orion Bailey]

We can address these issues after you back up the Civil War fearmongoring.

Give us a reasonable scenerio in which half of the country supports fighting the other half because police are being held accountable and our education and healthcare are paid for via taxes in 2031.

Do you think that would be the result? What if Biden pushed through legislation next year that forced all of it to happen over a decade.

If so, you're making the claim. I'm taking your claim seriously. Please, walk me through it.

i already did. Your missing it somehow.

2031 is just around the corner. How Bout 2071?

conservatives beleives this to not be sustainable and will topple our economy. It wont be stood for aNd eventually side will be drawn.


Do you think wars start out of the blue? They ramp up over a series of events.
To me the series of events are under way.

war may be a decade away yet but the path is pretty clear.

 

[Phatguysrule]

i already did. Your missing it somehow.

2031 is just around the corner. How Bout 2071?

conservatives beleives this to not be sustainable and will topple our economy. It wont be stood for aNd eventually side will be drawn.


Do you think wars start out of the blue? They ramp up over a series of events.
To me the series of events are under way.

war may be a decade away yet but the path is pretty clear.

You didn't. 2071 is not acceptable.

You want to allow innocent people to be abused by government goons in fear of idiots with Hawaiian shirts attacking (insert somebody, we're still not sure who they will be fighting against).

Yep. I'm not following this logic and will cease considering it as a legitimste possible conclusion.

Thanks for clarification.

 

[dviss1]

And again, that's not why I choose to pay police. Most Americans would agree.

I'm not sure why you're on this pay them kick. I'm not even talking about that.

I'm talking about the fact that they are doing exactly what they've been trained to do for centuries.

 

[dviss1]

Fuck your divisive bullshit. These are my people.







https://www.treatmentadvocacycenter...-more-likely-to-be-killed-by-law-enforcement-

https://www.opb.org/article/2021/06...alled-911-himself-seeking-mental-health-care/

https://khn.org/news/police-killing-mental-illness-emergency-crisis-care-pennsylvania/

Dvisive shit??? You're blaming me for being divisive?? Jesus...

We've NEVER been a united country. EVER. Sit with that.
And don't talk about me being divisive, I'm responding to the war white people have waged against us since before this country's inception.

 

[dviss1]

im sorry but the last 18 months show Differently. One need look no further than the attempted arsen of police headquarters in portland to see that some people absolutely are fine with a violent overthrow.
Lets be real here when we say no one. Thats bs. There are some people.

You're STEADY talking about "ANTIFA" but won't get the people who live in your neck of the woods.

They get police escorts to come spray us with bear mace...

 

[Phatguysrule]

I'm not sure why you're on this pay them kick. I'm not even talking about that.

I'm talking about the fact that they are doing exactly what they've been trained to do for centuries.

And I'm talking about stopping that and getting a force to ACTUALLY serve and protect all people.

You know, something that can actually be accomplished. We can't change how they were trained in the past. We can change how they are trained in the future.

If every conversation on police devolves into pissing match about the past then we'll never move past it. Yes, we acknowledge that there are racist police and the system they protect negatively impacts minorities.

I'm for changing that to improve the future for all poor and minorities who would be targets and in doing so, improve our country as a whole.

 

[Orion Bailey]

You didn't. 2071 is not acceptable.

You want to allow innocent people to be abused by government goons in fear of idiots with Hawaiian shirts attacking (insert somebody, we're still not sure who they will be fighting against).

Yep. I'm not following this logic and will cease considering it as a legitimste possible conclusion.

Thanks for clarification.

Good because what i bolded i never even came close to saying or wanting. So you are correct. Your conclusion is illogical.

 

[dviss1]

if thats who i sound like then i dont thino you have read my posts. No where did i say thats what i want. No where did i provide any support for the right wing nutjobs. However i dont discredit their ability to attempt undermine the movement it it moves too quickly.
If anything the raid on the capital supports my opinion.

the main difference is you think we can fund everything. I don't think we can. No sustainably. Its been proven that providing universal everything has failed in the long run.
people are already lazier now than they were two years ago.
Helo wanted signs wverywhere but people sitting ar home collecting money.
This is not good for the economic infrastructure and will eventually send it spiraling. Look at inflation already???
Give money out and prices increase. No one saved a dime by getting handouts, as were all paying more for everything.
i mean, to me the signs are clear. But im trying to look way down the path. NOt just right before me.
The conservatives will not allow money to dwindle away and will fight back.

I love you J, but you're really on some other shit in this post.. :facepalm:

 

[dviss1]

And I'm talking about stopping that and getting a force to ACTUALLY serve and protect all people.

You know, something that can actually be accomplished. We can't change how they were trained in the past. We can change how they are trained in the future.

If every conversation on police devolves into pissing match about the past then we'll never move past it. Yes, we acknowledge that there are racist police and the system they protect negatively impacts minorities.

I'm for changing that to improve the future for all poor and minorities who would be targets and in doing so, improve our country as a whole.

Yeah, there are no good cops in a racist system. The system must come down.

 

[Orion Bailey]

You're STEADY talking about "ANTIFA" but won't get the people who live in your neck of the woods.

They get police escorts to come spray us with bear mace...

i don't agree with either but one was in response to the other. Antifa showed up first with violent agendas. So the right wingers came out of the woods in. response.
Again i dont agree with wither groups’ tactics

 

[Orion Bailey]

I love you J, but you're really on some other shit in this post.. :facepalm:

again. I dont agree or support, but the past 18 months is valid info to base an opinion off of.

 

[Phatguysrule]

Dvisive shit??? You're blaming me for being divisive?? Jesus...

We've NEVER been a united country. EVER. Sit with that.
And don't talk about me being divisive, I'm responding to the war white people have waged against us since before this country's inception.

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Well, you actually responded to me. Don't tell me I can't have a grievence against policing in America because of the color of my skin.

That's divisive and it's incredibly counterproductive to getting the change you claim to want.

If you want to try to silence my advocating for improving things you can go fuck yourself.

On the other hand, if you actually want to have a discussion about how to make improvements I'm game.

 

[Orion Bailey]

You didn't. 2071 is not acceptable.

You want to allow innocent people to be abused by government goons in fear of idiots with Hawaiian shirts attacking (insert somebody, we're still not sure who they will be fighting against).

Yep. I'm not following this logic and will cease considering it as a legitimste possible conclusion.

Thanks for clarification.

to clarify i didnt say have health care by 2071. Im saying how are you going to pay for it that long when we Re seeing inflation skyrocket already?

maybe that miss understanding led to your response.

 

[Phatguysrule]

Good because what i bolded i never even came close to saying or wanting. So you are correct. Your conclusion is illogical.

Excellent. I'm left to guess about what you're saying since you refuse to engage. So once yiu want to address that concern I'm happy to have that conversation. Until then I'll just ignore your concern about some illogical civil war which will never happen.

 

[Phatguysrule]

Yeah, there are no good cops in a racist system. The system must come down.

I don't disagree at all. Not sure why you keep wanting to silence me.

 

[Phatguysrule]

to clarify i didnt say have health care by 2071. Im saying how are you going to pay for it that long when we Re seeing inflation skyrocket already?

maybe that miss understanding led to your response.

We each already pay on average more tax money for Healthcare than Canada.

We save money on that system. Just one example.

If you had no medical bills, co-pays, or healthcare premiums you would have more money to help offset inflation. Not less.

 

[Orion Bailey]

We each already pay on average more tax money for Healthcare than Canada.

We save money on that system. Just one example.

If you had no medical bills, co-pays, or healthcare premiums you would have more money to help offset inflation. Not less.

Whos paying all those fees? Through taxation? So someone who has littlecto no health issues has to pY an inflated tax to offset the regular health needs of some who care not to take care of themselves?

yeah ive said this before, so i have provided reasons. You may not agree but there are plenty of people out there who will push back on universal this and that.


The reLity to me is there will never be a universal anything because not everyone requires the same things and its simply not right to force one person to pay into a system to help another person because they dont want to work or dont want to ear healthy, etc.


this is a fundamental left vs right conflict. But now with the left basically trying to force universal everything, the right will push back. If the left pushes back again… war.

yeah its not simple like that but i don't have the time to address every single detail as again its all complicated aNd takes a series of events.


Look at texas. Look at Eastern oregon.

People are dividing and drawing lines more and more.

The current path will lead to war.