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Assuming the Miami trade is the best offer; would you agree to this Miami trade or bring Dame back?

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julius said:
If they make a trade with a team, and the major haul is 1st round picks, they sure as hell better not have any protections on anybody them.
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Agreed and there is plenty of precedent with Durant Mitchell Gobert etc all being unprotected.
 
We are gonna get a shit deal, time would be better spent on researching potential top 3 picks over the next 3-5 seasons.
 
I feel like the other day when Dame reposted that shit about being an all time Heat great and then deleted it, he could have done so after talking to Goodwin and thinking the deal was done... just given how tight lipped Dame has been about the whole thing. I mean how many of those posts from Miami fans had he likely seen?
 
blazerkor said:
I feel like the other day when Dame reposted that shit about being an all time Heat great and then deleted it, he could have done so after talking to Goodwin and thinking the deal was done... just given how tight lipped Dame has been about the whole thing. I mean how many of those posts from Miami fans had he likely seen?
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What's funny about him reposting something implying he'd be an all time "Heat great", is that even if they win a title (and again, that's not a given), he wouldn't be.
 
Please god tell me it’s not Lowry/Jovic/Herro and 2 shitty 1s.
 
julius said:
What's funny about him reposting something implying he'd be an all time "Heat great", is that even if they win a title (and again, that's not a given), he wouldn't be.
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After posting what I did I thought about what his stories have looked like since he released his album and I don't think Dame is taking the time to manage his story reposts. I think most likely someone in his circle reposted that and someone else said WTF and it got deleted. Not what I said above and not Dame doing something stupid.
 
best blazer of all time coming off his best statistical year, under contract for the remainder of his peak.

you do not accept anything less than what utah got for mitchell.
 
is this a contender?

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If it were anyone but the Heat (or the Lakers) I might be slightly more tempted by their offer. But the Heat just are never really bad for very long. Stars want to go there, and they're incredibly well-managed. Just look at their record--since 2003 they've had one season where they dipped below 37 wins.

I mean if this were the Bulls or Wizards, then yeah, maybe.... Or, more realistically, fringe contender (or think they can be contender) teams like Minnesota or Boston or Philly. Someone like that is bound to get frisky in a few months (assuming Dame avoids injury) and we get at least a similar package from a team who isn't run as competently (and therefore is likely to yield better picks several years out).

It's all a gamble. But recent history has shown that the team that is patient in trading their all star gets a better deal.
 
mook said:
If it were anyone but the Heat (or the Lakers) I might be slightly more tempted by their offer. But the Heat just are never really bad for very long. Stars want to go there, and they're incredibly well-managed. Just look at their record--since 2003 they've had one season where they dipped below 37 wins.
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Clearly there is some truth in this, but to attain Dame Heat management would be pushing their chips into the middle of the table for short term success which is not business as usual for them. With Dame making 60M+ in the final year (2026-7) of his deal when he's 36, stars wanting to go there will have to agree to play for peanuts. Butler's final year under contract is the year prior when he'll be 36. The draft is unlikely to provide much of anything for them in the short term, good luck on continuing to unearth scrub FA starters. Also, the increase in destructive hurricanes is not going to help them remain a desired FA destination going forward... hell, Miami has other issues with climate change

https://www.e-education.psu.edu/earth103/node/1185

Yes everything is a gamble of sorts, but my guess is if Portland is to deal Dame to Miami their wheels will be falling off by 2026 and they'd be likely to do a full reset.

STOMP
 
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inconceivable said:
best blazer of all time coming off his best statistical year, under contract for the remainder of his peak.

you do not accept anything less than what utah got for mitchell.
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In that case, we need to prepare for Dame coming back....... because we are not getting what Utah got.
 
I still find it hilarious that Miami, and especially their fans, seem to think that just *because* they're Miami, that they're entitled to getting Damian for scraps.

I mean, after all, he is old. They'd be doing Portland a favor.
 
wizenheimer said:
think about it: where is this coming from? does anybody believe this rumor came out of the Portland F.O.? If not, it came from Miami and they have been leaking deflection, distraction, & bullshit daily. Yesterday, the deal was dead because the Blazers were being assholes; today it's closer?
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Does Cronin agreeing to stop calling Riley “Slick Willie” and Riley agreeing to not call Cronin “Humpty Dumpty” constitute “closer”?
 
wizenheimer said:
think about it: where is this coming from? does anybody believe this rumor came out of the Portland F.O.? If not, it came from Miami and they have been leaking deflection, distraction, & bullshit daily. Yesterday, the deal was dead because the Blazers were being assholes; today it's closer?
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he's a heat fan......it came from Miami camp
 
mook said:
If it were anyone but the Heat (or the Lakers) I might be slightly more tempted by their offer. But the Heat just are never really bad for very long. Stars want to go there, and they're incredibly well-managed. Just look at their record--since 2003 they've had one season where they dipped below 37 wins.

I mean if this were the Bulls or Wizards, then yeah, maybe.... Or, more realistically, fringe contender (or think they can be contender) teams like Minnesota or Boston or Philly. Someone like that is bound to get frisky in a few months (assuming Dame avoids injury) and we get at least a similar package from a team who isn't run as competently (and therefore is likely to yield better picks several years out).

It's all a gamble. But recent history has shown that the team that is patient in trading their all star gets a better deal.
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inconceivable said:
That's limiting belief. Mitchell's youth does not make him better value than Dame.
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No, but just because a couple of teams gave up too much to get Gobert or Mitchell, does not make it the new standard for all trades moving forward. If you wait for it to happen then Dame won't be traded. Only teams who have stock-piled picks and young players can offer something similar. And I don't think young teams want Dame.
 
kjironman1 said:
Except the Blazers? Aren't they the youngest team in the league now?
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I figured someone would bring that up, but are we sure the Blazers even do? Our fans seem to have moved on.
But regardless, I think the obvious reason Portland offered the max contract to Dame in the first place is because of what he has meant to this organization. He is worth more to Portland than any other team.
 
BigGameDamian said:
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Nothing else in the last 24 hours since this trade comment.

I do feel like Oct 2 is a bit of a hard deadline. If both sides are close I think they get a deal done then. If a deal isn't done then I think both sides are probably quite a ways apart and Lillard will begin opening night on the Blazers. Both the Heat want Lillard in camp from day 1 to prepare for the season, and the Blazers want to move on to the next chapter.

The Blazers don't want to do media day or practices with the Dame situation unresolved. But if they feel like its only unfair Lillard deals available, I can certainly see them deciding waiting is the better of two poor options. I don't think the Blazer feel they need to win the trade though. If the Blazers view a trade as somewhat close to fair or only a slight loss they will pull the trigger.
 
BigGameDamian said:
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Blazers should insist, Heat don't have many assets so yes they need to empty them.

2028 2030 picks
2027 2029 swaps
Herro
Martin
Jovic
Jaquez

To close a deal I'd probably let the Heat keep any single player but we get everything else. It's still a poor return in a Lillard trade.

If the Heat don't even want to give that up; then bring Dame back. Rather risk he gets traded for worse or injured or who knows what than take a lesser return now of that already poor Miami package.

This shit Miami package with less than what I list is going to be available from now until the deadline. Better to wait and see what else becomes available and wait for December trade restrictions to end.
 
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