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Little news first:

- Doesn't like Hinrich idea. Makes twice as much as Blake but isn't twice the player Blake is.
- Wouldn't be surprised if Portland does nothing big tomorrow.

Bigger news:

- Met with Aldrige at his house today and Aldridge said he loves Portland/franchise/fans and would like to get an extension done before next season. Just wants it out of the way.
- Fine with Roy getting a max contract and him not.
 
RoyToy said:
Little news first:

- Doesn't like Hinrich idea. Makes twice as much as Blake but isn't twice the player Blake is.
- Wouldn't be surprised if Portland does nothing big tomorrow.

Bigger news:

- Met with Aldrige at his house today and Aldridge said he loves Portland/franchise/fans and would like to get an extension done before next season. Just wants it out of the way.
- Fine with Roy getting a max contract and him not.
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Yes and Yes!!! Get it done, KP. LMA kicks ass and wants to win, doesn't he? Willing to potentially give up a max to win in P-town. I had assumed LMA as a max player. This is big new from Quick, even if it only saves $2-4 million/per off of any LMA deal.
 
Yeah I just saw that. Great news! I missed the part about Kirk though. Did he really say Kirk isn't half the player as Blake?!?!??!?! Wow~!
 
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Al Jefferson did not get the max - so this is indeed good news. I think LMA will be a better player than Al-Jeff when all is said and done - because he cares about defense - but at this point in the game - Al-Jeff is a better offensive player.

Sounds reasonable.
 
LaMarcus is worth it.

Do the right thing and max him out.
 
RoyToy said:
Little news first:

- Doesn't like Hinrich idea. Makes twice as much as Blake but isn't twice the player Blake is.
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For years Quick has been a poor analyst His opinions aren't worth much.

1) Blake - coming off a career year - is currently a bargain at his rate. This is Blake's last year. Either Blake reverts to his career norms - in which case his rate isn't a big bargain anymore - or he has another good year - in which case keeping him will require paying him a lot more money.

The point of Quick bringing up a one year (ie temporary) issue is lost on me. Really - what the hell is the point?

2) There is no such thing as a linear relationship of salary to production. You often have to pay a lot more to upgrade from an average player to an above average player. Supply and demand. Hinrich doesn't have to be twice as good as Blake to be earning the "right" amount.

Quick needs to stick to reporting.

- Wouldn't be surprised if Portland does nothing big tomorrow.
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Ok. But why?

Bigger news:
- Met with Aldrige at his house today and Aldridge said he loves Portland/franchise/fans and would like to get an extension done before next season. Just wants it out of the way.
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Of course he does. Negotiations and waiting is stressful. Most NBA players are very anxious to get that first real big payday. Done right, it will set them and their families up for life. That is a big load on a young man's shoulders.

- Fine with Roy getting a max contract and him not.
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This is excellent news. I have been a little worried about this. Paying Roy, Oden AND LaMarcus all MAX contracts would limit the number of other quality veterans the team could carry in about two or three years. If LaMarcus takes a bit less, that gives the GM a bit of room to work with for the rest of the roster.
 
Masbee said:
Of course he (LMA) does. Negotiations and waiting is stressful. Most NBA players are very anxious to get that first real big payday. Done right, it will set them and their families up for life. That is a big load on a young man's shoulders.
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LMA is set up no matter what. My take was that he loves PDX and doesn't want to mortgage championships for a few million/per.


This is excellent news. I have been a little worried about this. Paying Roy, Oden AND LaMarcus all MAX contracts would limit the number of other quality veterans the team could carry in about two or three years. If LaMarcus takes a bit less, that gives the GM a bit of room to work with for the rest of the roster.
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Oden is a long way from receiving a MAX contract from anyone in the NBA.
 
Main point is Hinrich isn't a huge upgrade over Blake, and he makes twice as much. I agree.

Hinrich isn't the answer and I would be a little disappointed if Hinrich is the starting PG for the Blazers next season.
 
Masbee said:
2) There is no such thing as a linear relationship of salary to production. You often have to pay a lot more to upgrade from an average player to an above average player. Supply and demand. Hinrich doesn't have to be twice as good as Blake to be earning the "right" amount.
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Absolutely 100% bang on.

I wanted to respond the same way but you did it much better than I ever could have.

That's a very strange comment for him to make.
 
OddEnormous said:
Absolutely 100% bang on.

I wanted to respond the same way but you did it much better than I ever could have.

That's a very strange comment for him to make.
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What is given up for Hinrich isn't considered in any deal I've seen rumored. Does an upgrade of Hinrich over Blake offset the loss of Outlaw's production off of the bench?

What about back-up PG and PF?
 
PapaG said:
Yes and Yes!!! Get it done, KP. LMA kicks ass and wants to win, doesn't he? Willing to potentially give up a max to win in P-town. I had assumed LMA as a max player. This is big new from Quick, even if it only saves $2-4 million/per off of any LMA deal.
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I see you didn't point to Quick's comments about Hinrich. Smart man you are. I wouldn't want to point to him as evidence. ;)
 
- Wouldn't be surprised if Portland does nothing big tomorrow.
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Ok. But why?
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Exactly. What kind of crap is that? So he realizes there's a reasonable chance nothing happens... well my left nut came to the same conclusion about a week ago, so big deal. He can also say he wouldn't be shocked if something does happen, that way he won't be shocked either way. Way to go out on limb Jason. Thanks for that cutting edge, shock-jock journalism.
 
PapaG said:
What is given up for Hinrich isn't considered in any deal I've seen rumored. Does an upgrade of Hinrich over Blake offset the loss of Outlaw's production off of the bench?

What about back-up PG and PF?
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Take my thoughts for what its worth.

I recognize Outlaw has been very productive, but I'd just as soon be rid of him. He can get a shot but, I believe, his defense is abysmal and with rare exception, doesn't seem to be much of a rebounder.

Backup PG? I'm assuming we'd have Bayless, Blake or a draftee in the PG heavy draft.

Backup PF? Yeah, we'd need to fill that but then again, not being an Outlaw fan, I'm fine with that.

Gramps...
 
PapaG said:
What is given up for Hinrich isn't considered in any deal I've seen rumored. Does an upgrade of Hinrich over Blake offset the loss of Outlaw's production off of the bench?

What about back-up PG and PF?
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That has nothing to do with what I was responding to.

I'm only responding to what Jason Quick said about salary.

I'm not 100% sold on KH, but if someone wants to give us a magic point guard, to lead us for 10 years, who costs nothing to trade for and wants to play for the minimum salary because he loves the Portland trail Blazers... I'll have a look at him too.
 
GrandpaBlaze said:
Take my thoughts for what its worth.

I recognize Outlaw has been very productive, but I'd just as soon be rid of him. He can get a shot but, I believe, his defense is abysmal and with rare exception, doesn't seem to be much of a rebounder.

Backup PG? I'm assuming we'd have Bayless, Blake or a draftee in the PG heavy draft.

Backup PF? Yeah, we'd need to fill that but then again, not being an Outlaw fan, I'm fine with that.

Gramps...
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Well, to be fair, I don't know the specifics of the mysterious deal, but I keep hearing Blake is a part of it.
 
PapaG said:
Well, to be fair, I don't know the specifics of the mysterious deal, but I keep hearing Blake is a part of it.
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Agreed. Thus, not knowing I assumed we'd have one of either Blake or Bayless (and if not, a draftee).

Gramps...
 
Erroneous Subterfuge said:
Exactly. What kind of crap is that? So he realizes there's a reasonable chance nothing happens... well my left nut came to the same conclusion about a week ago, so big deal. He can also say he wouldn't be shocked if something does happen, that way he won't be shocked either way. Way to go out on limb Jason. Thanks for that cutting edge, shock-jock journalism.
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I only remember a few select points from the interview. I'm sure he expanded on in but I just didn't put it down in the op. I don't really remember his reasoning.
 
OddEnormous said:
That has nothing to do with what I was responding to.

I'm only responding to what Jason Quick said about salary.

I'm not 100% sold on KH, but if someone wants to give us a magic point guard, to lead us for 10 years, who costs nothing to trade for and wants to play for the minimum salary because he loves the Portland trail Blazers... I'll have a look at him too.
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I think you're taking it too far out of context. It's not that Quick is apposed to spending $ on a good PG, it's just Hinrich isn't the player he'd spend it on. He's a minimal upgrade and isn't worth the contract.
 
RoyToy said:
I only remember a few select points from the interview. I'm sure he expanded on in but I just didn't put it down in the op. I don't really remember his reasoning.
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It's so much easier to criticize when the entire point isn't heard, isn't it? :biglaugh:
 
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