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[talman]

Since I'm one of the few who regularly listen to Isaac/Suke they had Freeman on the other day (if my fading memory serves) and they basically said "yeah Quick follows the season hard" and then takes the summers off and lets Joe do the draft/rumor following. I interepreted the comments as Quick basically ignoring what happens during the off season and taking an extended vacation. I believe he knows very little---I'm MUCH more inclined to listen to what Freeman has to say @ this point.

Oh and a huge ++ to the "Canzano sucks but Quick I can stand" comment.

 

[Erroneous Subterfuge]

So was I "hating" on Hinrich? I find your anonymous criticisms in this thread bizarre, as well as you saying that I only agreed with Quick because he agrees with my opinion on Hinrich.

Then maybe our definitions of 'hating on' are different. What I meant was, you spent all day diminishing and criticizing basically every aspect of his game in order to try and prove a point (and I could care less, btw). I just fail to see the difference in that and a few people diminishing Jason Quick's "update".

Anyways, still waiting to hear how I'm jealous of J. Quick...

 

[Wizard Mentor]

A sore spot for you, isn't it. Yes, Quick's opinion is more legitimate than yours. He is around the team, he talks to the management, he puts his name behind his words, "Masbee".

Gosh, I'd hate to think the Clipper's GMs of the past have opinions more legit than mine. They certainly have greater access, but the decisions they've made prove that they (Baylor) didn't have opinions of much merit. Mine are better, as well as most on this board.

We all have our biases. Personally, I just think this is Quick's way of saying:

"People undervalue Blake. Blake doesn't make a lot of mistakes. I know Steve Blake, and he's a great guy. I really like Steve Blake!! So, if you armchair GMs want to trade him, you had better be talking about getting a proven vet who is MUCH better than Steve Blake. Did I mention I really like Steve Blake? (And, he has a hot wife!)"

Everyone's got biases, including Jason Quick.

 

[Tyler_Hansbrough]

I didn't "hate" on Kirk H. I said I thought that Blake had a better playoff considering their role, and I said that Hinrich couldn't/didn't defend Rondo. How is that "hate"?

Are you freaking serious? Kirk did way better than Blake. Good Lord some of you people.

 

[Denny Crane]

I didn't "hate" on Kirk H. I said I thought that Blake had a better playoff considering their role, and I said that Hinrich couldn't/didn't defend Rondo. How is that "hate"?

He didn't guard Rondo, he guarded Ray Allen and Paul Pierce mostly.

 

[Masbee]

A sore spot for you, isn't it. Yes, Quick's opinion is more legitimate than yours. He is around the team, he talks to the management, he puts his name behind his words, "Masbee".

So, to go to the exteme, if a MORON was constantly around the team - that individual's opinions and analysis about the broad topics of the TrailBlazers and the NBA in general would be more legitimate than any other individual on planet Earth.

You feel that way? Really?

You sure put a lot of stock into proximity. Oh, and non-anonymity. These are the key factors in all those that have excellent analysis skills....says you and few others.

I am not sure why? Certainly out-of-the box thinking (to put a kind spin on it).

 

[LittleAlex]

Quick has always been a HUGE Blake guy, so it's not surprising in the least he wouldn't like any move to replace Blakey. I remember one Quick chat where he spent 5 minutes ranting about how Portland fans have it all wrong and Blake is one of the best players on the team.


Quick and I disagree on this....strongly.

 

[Minstrel]

Quick has an opinion and signs his name to them. That's cool, he's paid for it so he's not anonymous. He's allowed to have an opinion and everyone here, anonymous or not, is allowed to agree/disagree with that opinion.

Whether his opinion is worth more than another person's should be based on the reasoning he displays. An unreasoned opinion from Quick has no more validity than an unreasoned opinion from a random person on the Internet. Reasoning is king when it comes to analysis.

Now, when it comes to reporting, Quick has more validity since he has access to team sources that most/all of us do not have. But this thread wasn't about reporting by Quick (except for his reporting of what LMA said, which I don't think anyone has criticized Quick for), it was about his opinions.

 

[Idog1976]

For sake of argument, I might believe someone was jealous of Quick, since he gets to travel with the team and mingle with the players.

Canzano? I actually find the suggestion insulting. The guy is a gossip columnist...he just happens to write (sometimes) about the Blazers. He would be just as at home writing about Paris Hilton's latest STD. Personally, I could be no more jealous of him, then of a pimp or a 2-bit crack dealer.

You're telling me you aren't jealous of this?

I call you a liar sir! No man on earth can resist that goblet. Your jealousy over drinking ware of this sort is well known.

 

[craigehlo]

Quick has always been a HUGE Blake guy, so it's not surprising in the least he wouldn't like any move to replace Blakey.

Totally. I'm so sick of hearing how Blake got mad at a practice and kicked a folding chair and that incident somehow turned the season around a couple years ago. His toughness is massively overrated.

Blake is a poor distributor for a team that has Oden in the post. We need someone with better court vision who can get Greg the rock in areas where he can have success.

 

[PapaG]

Then maybe our definitions of 'hating on' are different. What I meant was, you spent all day diminishing and criticizing basically every aspect of his game in order to try and prove a point (and I could care less, btw). I just fail to see the difference in that and a few people diminishing Jason Quick's "update".

Anyways, still waiting to hear how I'm jealous of J. Quick...

Clearly you can't read for comprehension. I am wondering how Hinrich is the answer for the defense's problem of allowing penetration.

 

[PapaG]

Don't worry Masbee, PapaG gets a boner when people use their real names.

He also likes to throw around stats (which may or may not be accurate) and try to play technical logical fallacy nazi while falling prey to the same fallacies he criticizes. I just put him on ignore, he barely ever says much useful, most of his posts are bitching at other posters for some perceived flaw in their argument.

Yep, no use having a poster who actually challenges you, right "HurraKane212"? Put 'em on ignore, even when this deal doesn't go done.

 

[PapaG]

He didn't guard Rondo, he guarded Ray Allen and Paul Pierce mostly.

Correct, and Blake was blasted on this board for not guarding Aaron Brooks. How does Hinrich solve this problem?

 

[PapaG]

So, to go to the exteme, if a MORON was constantly around the team - that individual's opinions and analysis about the broad topics of the TrailBlazers and the NBA in general would be more legitimate than any other individual on planet Earth.
You feel that way? Really?

You sure put a lot of stock into proximity. Oh, and non-anonymity. These are the key factors in all those that have excellent analysis skills....says you and few others.

I am not sure why? Certainly out-of-the box thinking (to put a kind spin on it).

I'm assuming you are calling Jason Quick a MORON. All I ever see of you is a screen name with some posts. I'll side with Quick on this one until you put your name behind your criticism.

 

[hasoos]

Since when has there ever been a perfectly proportional line to the salary to production ratio in the NBA. That is purely flawed logic.

 

[Idog1976]

I'm assuming you are calling Jason Quick a MORON. All I ever see of you is a screen name with some posts. I'll side with Quick on this one until you put your name behind your criticism.

I'll do you one better. I will show you my exact Google Earth coordinates. I'll give you a hint I'm Beligian...

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[PapaG]

I'll do you one better. I will show you my exact Google Earth coordinates. I'll give you a hint I'm Beligian...

Well, that was odd.

 

[oldmangrouch]

You're telling me you aren't jealous of this?

I call you a liar sir! No man on earth can resist that goblet. Your jealousy over drinking ware of this sort is well known.

Fie upon your brazen cup! If you wish to tempt me, it must be gold studded with emeralds - to reflect the colors of my beloved alma mater.

 

[oldmangrouch]

In fairness to Quick, I will say this: if this was a proposed UFA signing, I doubt people would be jumping for joy at the notion of paying Hinrich $9 or $10 million a year.

The fact that Hinrich is at least moderately over-paid is a valid consideration, even if Quick stated it crudely.

 

[Idog1976]

Well, that was odd.

So is criticizing folks on the internet for being critical and anonymous. There's this thing called the internet...turns out people are critical...and anonymous...

 

[LittleAlex]

Correct, and Blake was blasted on this board for not guarding Aaron Brooks. How does Hinrich solve this problem?

By now we all know you don't think Hinrich is the answer. Fair enough. I don't think he would be the total solution either.

However, considering what is available, what do you think IS the answer?

Is it Blake?

Is it some high draft pick point guard?

Is it another point guard who has been rumored to be available and is in a similar situation to Hinrich's?

Is it a more experienced Bayless?

Or if you are smoking crack, Sergio?

I am just curious.

BTW, the trade the Bucks made pretty much takes Sessions off the table. In order to get him Portland would have to pay out about the same amount as Hinrich makes now.

 

[Cake]

BTW, the trade the Bucks made pretty much takes Sessions off the table. In order to get him Portland would have to pay out about the same amount as Hinrich makes now.

That's not neccessarily true. Milwaukee will basically have enough money to sign either Sessions or Charlie Villanueva. From what I've read, they're leaning toward Villanueva.

 

[Wizard Mentor]

That's not neccessarily true. Milwaukee will basically have enough money to sign either Sessions or Charlie Villanueva. From what I've read, they're leaning toward Villanueva.

from CVs tweets, I think he thinks he a goner.

 

[STOMP]

from CVs tweets, I think he thinks he a goner.

I haven't read his tweets, but wouldn't it read poorly in the court of Milwaukee Bucks-fan public opinion to be openly confident about remaining with the Bucks at the cost of another talented young player (Sessions)? Better to stay humble and repeat the taking it one day at a time cliche's

STOMP

 

[Natebishop3]

When has quick ever been right about a trade rumor?

 

[alex42083]

When has quick ever been right about a trade rumor?

It's weird, but Quick and Freeman just disappear and don't break anything. Maybe they just don't have sources in the league, but they weren't anywhere to be found at the trade deadline and you don't hear anything from them now in the day before the draft that no one else knows.
I still think they're good writers, but with a team that's involved in every rumor out there, they take a back seat to all of it.

 

[Natebishop3]

It's weird, but Quick and Freeman just disappear and don't break anything. Maybe they just don't have sources in the league, but they weren't anywhere to be found at the trade deadline and you don't hear anything from them now in the day before the draft that no one else knows.
I still think they're good writers, but with a team that's involved in every rumor out there, they take a back seat to all of it.

He certainly didn't break the Jack for Bayless deal.

 

[PapaG]

When has quick ever been right about a trade rumor?

When did you ever get a trade rumor correct when you had credentials?

 

[Uther TheGardener]

iirc it was wheelz that broke that story...

 

[LittleAlex]

Totally. I'm so sick of hearing how Blake got mad at a practice and kicked a folding chair and that incident somehow turned the season around a couple years ago. His toughness is massively overrated.

Since when did having horrible temper become a positive attribute?

Getting mad tends to reduce performance, not increase it.

Perhaps the reason Blake has missed clutch free throws is that he missed the first one then got so angry he couldn't concentrate on the others.

Maybe Blake should carry one of those squeeze balls in his jock so when he gets mad he can take out his frustration on it?