OT Adam Silver Warns Teams About Tanking, Says NBA Will Closely Monitor Their Play

[blazerkor]

Great so our bucks picks will be useless

Worth less but not worthless. A team with a bad record still will have a better chance at a higher pick.

To be honest it just makes all of the FRPs that we have closer to equal value and we should be looking to trade them to upgrade talent either by moving up in this upcoming draft or combining them with players to bring in better players.

 

[AldoTrapani]

Worth less but not worthless. A team with a bad record still will have a better chance at a higher pick.

To be honest it just makes all of the FRPs that we have closer to equal value and we should be looking to trade them to upgrade talent either by moving up in this upcoming draft or combining them with players to bring in better players.

Worth less is still bad. Just our luck when we had those as a weapon

 

[blazerkor]

Worth less is still bad. Just our luck when we had those as a weapon

Unprotected FRPs will still have a massive amount of value considering the CBA.

 

[Everything Beagle]

Not bad. I would definitely make it completely random for those in it, and I would probably tweak your "5-8" and make it 7-8

I thought about it but I like making the edge of the lottery be a decision to give up home court advantage; the lotto tanking action will be obvious to detect, whereas maneuvering between 6th and 7th for seeding considerations should be allowed and I wouldn’t want it to get mistaken for tanking.

 

[BigGameDamian]

 

[Hoopguru]

Average loss's last three years versus two with #1. Three years imo indicates a legit/definite trend.

 

[wizenheimer]

for once, Aldo is right: for the Blazers the biggest impact may be a degradation of value of the Milwaukee picks and swaps. Now maybe, some of that will be off-set as Portland's own lottery picks and that Orlando pick increase a little in value. But it also might be that Portland's own lottery picks will drop in value instead

and these proposals don't address a major reality: a lot of bad teams aren't really tanking; they are just bad teams with limited talent. Milwaukee is a bad team without Giannis, and Giannis is hurt a lot. Indiana is a bad team without Haliburton and Siakam; and Siakam is 32. Memphis is a bad team without Ja. Sacramento is a bad team and the injuries to Sabonis and LaVine are legit; and Derozan is 36. Utah is definitely tanking but that's because of their top-8 protection on their 1st. Where is the proposal to restrict protections to the lottery? All of those ideas sure seem to force bad teams into situations that make it harder to become better. And if trades are restricted to lottery protected picks, does that mean lottery protection is top-18?

something else: say these rules are implemented for next season; and say the Blazers don't make the play-offs this season. If the lottery is the bottom-18 teams does that mean the Blazers, next season, have to be 6th seed in order to convey their pick to Chicago? Or maybe, the protection is locked in as top-14 even though 18 teams are in the lottery. But this could set up a scenario where Portland didn't advance to the playoffs but still had to convey the pick to the Bulls. Head spinning

I don't believe any of these proposals will stop actual tanking. The equations won't change. Having a 10-20% chance at a top-5 pick is still a better outcome than a 1st round exit and a pick in the 20's

 

[Phatguysrule]

personally, I think this NBA anti-tanking jihad is one of the stupidest movements I've seen in sports

Agreed

 

[Hoopguru]

Ok, as an example, as of todays total loses for 25-26 and total loses from 24-25, & 23-24.Represents just short of three years total average loses, for teams that fell in the bottom 5, of each conf for the three years.

1) Wiz - 62.3 TL's Average
2) Jazz - 56.0 TL's "
3) Nets - 54.0 TL's "
4) Blazers - 48.0 TL's "
5) Pels - 47.7 TL's "
6) Griz - 45.7 TL's "
7) Kings - 44.3 TL's "
8) Bulls - 43.0 TL's. "
9) Mavs - 41.7 TL's "
10) Pacers - 41.3 TL's "
11) Bucks - 36.7 TL's. "
12) Rockets - 33.3 TL's "

IMO, a three year average at least indicates a trend and could prevent teams like SA from getting 2 first in a row. The league could determine odds for teams 1-5. for picks 1-5

Not sure anyone would argue the legitimacy of 1-5 with this breakdown.

 

[Samuel]

personally, I think this NBA anti-tanking jihad is one of the stupidest movements I've seen in sports

agree. boiled down this is about creating more meaningful games that leads to more media dollars, ticket sales, etc. they refuse to have the schedule conversation--since the game is way faster than it used to be guys get hurt way more and hardly even practice with their teams.

when their tanking solutions don't shore up teams holding guys out or resting them, i'm sure they'll make it about something else again.

 

[AldoTrapani]

Worth less but not worthless. A team with a bad record still will have a better chance at a higher pick.

To be honest it just makes all of the FRPs that we have closer to equal value and we should be looking to trade them to upgrade talent either by moving up in this upcoming draft or combining them with players to bring in better players.

Exactly what I was saying

 

[wizenheimer]

Exactly what I was saying

I was just coming in to post that tweet

If there was a Murhy's Law all-star team, the Blazers would be on it

 

[Pinwheel1]

I am not too concerned with the Milwaukee picks. Let's say they kept the "tanking" as is.
Odds are that no matter how bad the Bucks are that particular year, they would still be better than those who intentionally tank, because they would be trying to win at the end of the season when other teams were not. And as we have seen from the last two years, teams can jump up to the top spot from 10th or 11th.

 

[blazerkor]

I think it will be proposal 1 on Shams list or something similar.

This proposal doesn't incentivize having the worst record in the league because the bottom ten teams have flat odds and it doesn't incentivize missing the playoffs because seeds 7 and 8 in both conferences stay in the lotto. I also don't see teams mini tanking at the end of the season to get down to a play-in spot to get lottery chances because the play-in is dangerous since it's single elimination games.

 

[KingSpeed]

None of the proposals incentivize winning. That needs to be the goal. My plan is better.

 

[Cugel]

POR will get the short end of the stick rest assured. FA-based teams come out just fine.

 

[BigGameDamian]

 

[Everything Beagle]

7th place isn’t enough.

They’re courting Bezos

 

[BoBoBREWSKI]

What does this have to do with NBA tanking?

 

[SlyPokerDog]

 

[Hoopguru]

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