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I don't think America stands for freedom. America is one of the most corrupt countries in today's world. Their politics is heavily mixed with religion, they take advantage of other nations, they brainwash their populace, they invade innocent countries, and they feed lies to the public. There is something hugely fucked up going on, and I don't like it one bit. Its about time people open their eyes, and see the hatred in USA. America have problems with dropping things - They obviously still haven't gotten over slavery, or 9/11. They cannot continue to label all Muslims as terrorists, it's outrageous.

That's your opinion and you're entitled to it.

But without America, every nation in Europe would speak German right now and have a picture of Hitler in front of their room. Simple as that.

1991 Bosnians were being murdered, inside Europe, and the Europeans didn't give a fuck (the majority of them), until the US stepped up and stopped the Serbian aggression. Fast forward to 1998, Albanians were being murdered, I had to leave my house (which was burned later) and Europe again didn't give a fuck, until the US stepped up again and led that bombardment of Serbia and saved the day in Europe yet again, and brought freedom to my nation.
 
Just to clarify things, no one thinks that Obama is Muslim, we were saying that terrorist groups MIGHT decide to consider him as their own. It wasn't meant to offend anyone :(
 
Just to clarify things, no one thinks that Obama is Muslim

Exactly, but also my point is what if he was? What's wrong with that? I don't see a problem with a muslim leading this country.

I don't like Obama because of his socialist policies, it has nothing to do with his beliefs or what religion he is. (he's christian, I know)
 
Exactly, but also my point is what if he was? What's wrong with that? I don't see a problem with a muslim leading this country.

I don't like Obama because of his socialist policies, it has nothing to do with his beliefs or what religion he is. (he's christian, I know)

It's amazing how you can call him a socialist.
 
It's amazing how you can call him a socialist.

Anyone who preaches "redistribution" of wealth is a socialist. He has included that in his plan program for the campaign so until he says otherwise, I'll continue calling him a socialist.
 
Anyone who preaches "redistribution" of wealth is a socialist. He has included that in his plan program for the campaign so until he says otherwise, I'll continue calling him a socialist.

the progressive income tax was invented by McCain's boyfriend Teddy Roosevelt. Any time you change who gets taxed what, you are "redistributing". Bush "redistributed" Clinton's tax spread, giving top margins a tax cut of 4.6 per cent. As those cuts run out in 09 they will default to their normal 39.6 per cent income tax. Obama is not going to support Bush's "redistribution" therefore he's a socialist?

COME ON!

If anyone is a Socialist in this election it's Sarah Palin and her $3,269 per person "collective" bonus from proceeds of oil leases. In fact Palin and her Jews for Jesus, Separatist pals can continue to suck off public funds while trying to leave the United States, but she's all "American" or whatever that means by her definition. By her use of the word, I don't live in the real America. If you're comfortable with a leader who thinks that Israel's woes are due to NOT ACCEPTING JESUS go vote McCain/Palin.
 
the progressive income tax was invented by McCain's boyfriend Teddy Roosevelt. Any time you change who gets taxed what, you are "redistributing". Bush "redistributed" Clinton's tax spread, giving top margins a tax cut of 4.6 per cent. As those cuts run out in 09 they will default to their normal 39.6 per cent income tax. Obama is not going to support Bush's "redistribution" therefore he's a socialist?

COME ON!

If anyone is a Socialist in this election it's Sarah Palin and her $3,269 per person "collective" bonus from proceeds of oil leases. In fact Palin and her Jews for Jesus, Separatist pals can continue to suck off public funds while trying to leave the United States, but she's all "American" or whatever that means by her definition. By her use of the word, I don't live in the real America. If you're comfortable with a leader who thinks that Israel's woes are due to NOT ACCEPTING JESUS go vote McCain/Palin.

For many of the people here, this is a one-issue election: tax policy. They object to the wealthy paying more than what they believe is their fair share, especially to support social programs for the happily unemployed. Nothing else really matters (although to be fair CK has strong feelings about how foreign policy would affect kosovo). Let me know if I'm misstating anything.
 
For many of the people here, this is a one-issue election: tax policy. They object to the wealthy paying more than what they believe is their fair share, especially to support social programs for the happily unemployed. Nothing else really matters (although to be fair CK has strong feelings about how foreign policy would affect kosovo). Let me know if I'm misstating anything.

Yep you hit it on the nail Dumpy.

I have a problem when our taxes go to people that really don't deserve them, people that can actually work, but choose not to, and continue to live off the welfare checks.

Also to let it be known, I'm not rich, probably on the lower end of middle class, we make enough to pay all the bills, so I'm sure that the redistribution would help us as well if we can get a piece of the millionaires but personally I don't want that, I need to work hard to earn it myself, I don't expect the govt to give me free money. (unless you're disabled, or retired, or just came from a third world country and speak absolutely no english)
 
Also, I was talking to Greg Mortensen, who I think knows a lot more about Muslims than anyone else here. He shared with me that what Osama Bin Laden is doing is not a jihad. In order for a Muslim to go on a jihad, they have to get permission from their mother first, otherwise they will just be doing shameful acts. Obviously Bin Laden's mother didn't give him her blessing.
 
Also, I was talking to Greg Mortensen, who I think knows a lot more about Muslims than anyone else here. He shared with me that what Osama Bin Laden is doing is not a jihad. In order for a Muslim to go on a jihad, they have to get permission from their mother first, otherwise they will just be doing shameful acts. Obviously Bin Laden's mother didn't give him her blessing.

Im sorry but what qualifies this guy as the know all on Islam? Judging by the area of the world he learned Islam(Pakistan, Afghanistan) its just part of the same propaganda the terrorist groups hear. The are all illiterate and have the one Imam(equivalent of priest) preach misinformation. Ive been around Muslims all my life, been to the middle east twice(Jordan, Saudi Arabia, Israel, Iraq, Egypt), took Islamic studies up to age 16, had plenty of knowledgeable people to ask for answers, and I have never heard about a mothers blessing for jihad. Just to make sure I double checked before I posted this.
 
Here's from a blog post.

Schooling girls has greater benefit then schooling boys for a number of reasons. Boys tend to leave the community and take their education with them whereas girls tend to stay with communities and help build them. Educated girls are more likely to raise educated families. When boys go off on a "jihad" (which is not necessarily a war, but can be any crusade or struggle to make a difference), it is supposed to be approved of by their mother to be socially acceptable. If the mother is educated she is less likely to approve of a warlike jihad and more likely to approve of some other endeavor.

http://timoey.blogspot.com/2006_03_01_archive.html

Now keep in mind, this guy is making a post about a talk he had with Greg Mortensen too.

Also found this.

Conditions for Combative Jihad

The ruler, the Imam, is completely answerable to the people and their legal apparatus, the most important representatives of whom are the scholars. The position of the law is that only at such a time when it can be reasonably proven that;
there are aggressive designs against Islam; and,
there are concerted efforts to eject Muslims from their legally acquired property; and,
that military campaigns are being launched to eradicate them.

At such a time the ruler can declare and execute the provisions of Jihad. It is a condition that there be a leader of the Muslims, an Imam, to declare combative Jihad. In al-Mughni, Ibn Qudama states "declaring Jihad is the responsibility of the Imam and is his independent legal judgment." Al-Dardir says, "proclaiming Jihad comes through the Imam's assignment of a leader". Abu Bakr Al-Jazaa'iri states that the pillars of Jihad are: "A pure intention and that it is performed behind a Muslim Imam and beneath his flag and with his permission. …it is not permissible for them to fight without an Imam."

Similarly the ruler, the political leader of the whole country, has the power to ratify peace treaties if they are consistent with the interests of the Muslims. Conscription has to be confined to young men of sound health on condition that they have parental permission to engage in combat. The exception is where the enemy has already entered the borders of a Muslim state in which case Jihad becomes unconditionally incumbent on every able man.

http://www.sunnah.org/fiqh/jihad_judicial_ruling.htm
 
Ok, thanks for the link but notice it says "young men", now think about when Prophet Muhammad was around what was "young" was. I was under the impression you were saying 18-30 year old men asking their mom for permission, not a young boy, which at the time could have a big impact on the family business. It also states "parental permission" not just mom
 
lol...you thinking what I said was a joke IS the joke...

So the Bush administration never committed any blatant war crimes huh? Interesting

I'm not even going to argue with any point you've made in this thread, I think that would be like beating my head against the wall, I'd just like to say that you sir, are an absolute and total idiot in every sense of the word.

Good Day.

Voting for Obama November 4th!!!
Voting for McCain November 5th!!!
Please vote on correct day...

Is this serious? LOL
 
^Thank you for your imput..I will kindly disagree

..and yes my sig is a joke
 

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