Aldridge has quit

[HailBlazers]

This is correct.

Perhaps on PnR's because they happen so fast, but to say that LMA is not honored outside is ridiculous.

 

[magnifier661]

No you didn't. You always fall back on "oh, jk" when your stupidity gets called. And perhaps I underestimated by a possession or two - but so what? There aren't any useful numbers to use. And I'm sure there are plenty of games where he sees 4 or fewer doubles. So maybe my range should be expanded from 0-8 times per game, 0-10 if we're really covering the full spectrum of possibilities. The point is, it's a myth perpetrated by you that Lillard's effectiveness is due to LMA being double-teams. THAT'S the point. But keep pushing those straw men out to deflect.
So again, what did I fall into? Oh yeah, arguing with you.

Usually when someone uses words like "stupidity"; gives you a sense on just how the debate is going. I've exposed you countless times, on many threads. Don't get all butt hurt that you can't dent saying things like you did in olive.

 

[magnifier661]

Do you watch the games? If you think that the defense stays with LMA rather than the ball on the P/P then you're not just dumb, you're blind and deaf too.

Winning!!!!

 

[jlprk]

From the Sunshine and Rainbows thread

LMA doesn't command the double team any more. Teams have stopped doing that for the most part because LMA has stopped posting up. He posts up about 5 times a game now. He may get doubled once or maybe twice. It is not something that the Blazers are exploiting - so it doesn't matter if he CAN command double teams. The fact is, right now he DOESN'T.

 

[Hobbesarable]

Perhaps on PnR's because they happen so fast, but to say that LMA is not honored outside is ridiculous.

You should take note of Blue's observation on the pick and pop with LA. It's easy to see when one is watching the game.

 

[HailBlazers]

LMA doesn't command the double team any more. Teams have stopped doing that for the most part because LMA has stopped posting up. He posts up about 5 times a game now. He may get doubled once or maybe twice. It is not something that the Blazers are exploiting - so it doesn't matter if he CAN command double teams. The fact is, right now he DOESN'T.

They better start exploiting it pronto so we can make sure to get home court advantage for the playoffs!

We are rebuilding. And it absolutely matters that our foundation big can command double teams, if you are looking past this year (A down one for LMA at that, despite record numbers).

 

[Hobbesarable]

They better start exploiting it pronto so we can make sure to get home court advantage for the playoffs. We are rebuilding! It abosuletly matters that our foundation big can command double teams, if you are looking past this year (A down one for LMA, despite record numbers).

LA usually wants it on the left block when he tries to post up. Teams are prepared for that. They also know he'll rotate towards the key or commit himself to a turnaround jumper rather than using his left hand for the easy hook off the backboard. It's all about predictability.

 

[blue9]

Usually when someone uses words like "stupidity"; gives you a sense on just how the debate is going. I've exposed you countless times, on many threads. Don't get all butt hurt that you can't dent saying things like you did in olive.

Sorry mags, I only call out stupidity when there's genuine stupidity on display. I don't call names for the sake of name calling. You really just don't understand how to form a cohesive argument and instead resort to falling back on other topics to deflect away from your stupidity being put on center stage. The only thing you're exposing is your inability to use thought and logic to make a point. As evidenced by the fact that you have nothing to back up your myth that LMA's double-teams are what makes Lillard effective. Instead you deflect by making some asinine "argument" that if someone uses a pejorative they're losing the argument. And if that WAS a sound argument (which it's not), you just lost any credibility by using "butt hurt".

 

[HailBlazers]

LA usually wants it on the left block when he tries to post up. Teams are prepared for that. They also know he'll rotate towards the key or commit himself to a turnaround jumper rather than using his left hand for the easy hook off the backboard. It's all about predictability.

No doubt LMA needs to work his a$$ off this summer. But to look at his current limitations as concrete is shortsighted IMO.

 

[Hobbesarable]

No doubt LMA needs to work his a$$ off this summer. But to look at his current limitations as concrete is shortsighted IMO.

Why? The opposing teams look at his current limitations.

 

[The_Lillard_King]

when Aldrdige and Lillard run the PnR or PnP . .. if they are going to leave LA open 16-18 feet out on that play, I'm fine with him taking that shot 30Xs a game.

There is a big difference when Jeffries is the one involved (who does lays a great pick) vs LA. Bag on LA and his low post game (personally I'm glad he isn't killing himself battling down low with a very thin bench and little chance of playoffs), but no denying LA has a sweet outside shot and the other teams have to pick their poison when it comes to the LA/Lillard PnP.

 

[magnifier661]

Sorry mags, I only call out stupidity when there's genuine stupidity on display. I don't call names for the sake of name calling. You really just don't understand how to form a cohesive argument and instead resort to falling back on other topics to deflect away from your stupidity being put on center stage. The only thing you're exposing is your inability to use thought and logic to make a point. As evidenced by the fact that you have nothing to back up your myth that LMA's double-teams are what makes Lillard effective. Instead you deflect by making some asinine "argument" that if someone uses a pejorative they're losing the argument. And if that WAS a sound argument (which it's not), you just lost any credibility by using "butt hurt".

Well me blue, if I lost your credibility, that's not much of a loss. Just sayin'

 

[HailBlazers]

As evidenced by the fact that you have nothing to back up your myth that LMA's double-teams are what makes Lillard effective.

It's a team sport, so can we just agree that they both make each other better? I for one am excited for the potential of the duo. How bout you?

Why? The opposing teams look at his current limitations.

That's all they have to look at, we as supporters get to look towards the futre. LMA spent this off-season rehabbing instead of doing what makes players great and honing their skills. Look at Lebron James, people use to say he "wasn't" and seemingly couldn't become the mulit-faceted player he is today, and now he's unstoppable.

There is absolutely no reason LMA can't become an unguardable player in the post.

 

[Hobbesarable]

It's a team sport, so can we just agree that they both make each other better? I for one am excited for the potential of the duo. How bout you?



That's all they have to look at, we as supporters get to look towards the futre. LMA spent this off-season rehabbing instead of doing what makes players great and honing their skills. Look at Lebron James, people use to say he "wasn't" and seemingly couldn't become the mulit-faceted player he is today, and now he's unstoppable.

There is no reason that LMA can't become an unguardable player in the post.

Are you seriously waiting for LA to develop more post moves?

 

[HailBlazers]

Are you seriously waiting for LA to develop more post moves?

Are you seriously saying it's not plausible? Go back and watch the 2010-2011 season, then 2011-2012 and tell me that it isnt.

 

[Hobbesarable]

Are you seriously saying it's not possible? Go back and watch the 2010-2011 season, then 2011-2012 and tell me that it isnt.

I'm not saying it's impossible. I think it's unlikely to see LA develop a new efficient post move.

I'm curious to know, do you watch some of his interviews?

 

[jlprk]

He always talks about his scoring, never his rebounding or defense, which are the main jobs for a PF.

 

[Hobbesarable]

He always talks about his scoring, never his rebounding or defense, which are the main jobs for a PF.

He also talked about bangin' in the paint against Chuck Hayes. That cracked me up!

Didn't you post a quote from that interview yesterday or a day before?

 

[blue9]

It's a team sport, so can we just agree that they both make each other better? I for one am excited for the potential of the duo. How bout you?

Okay, but that still has nothing to do with the point I was making (the mythical LMA double-team = Lillard effectiveness). Yes, it's a team sport. Yes, when your teammates require defensive attention, that makes it so you're facing less attention than you otherwise might. None of this supports the idea that LMA's ability to draw a double is making Lillard the player we're all watching become the best player on the team. LMA just isn't doubled often enough for that to be the case. That's the point I was making, which stemmed from Mags saying something along the lines of Sanders not drawing doubles, so Lillard, or our offense, will suck if we trade LMA for Sanders (very dirty paraphrasing...don't feel like going back to re-read the post). If you disagree please tell me why.
I am not excited about the potential of the duo because I've not seen nearly enough from LMA to think that he's going to take a giant leap forward. His progress has plateaued. At this stage in his career I don't think we'll see anything but minor improvement. He's never really shown the ability to make the team better than the sum of its parts. And I've always felt that you should never build around a PF unless you think you've got the next Tim Duncan. I believe that LMA is more valuable to our team as a trade asset. I would LOVE to be wrong about this, but I just don't see anything that puts any real doubt in my mind.

 

[jlprk]

He also talked about bangin' in the paint against Chuck Hayes. That cracked me up!

Didn't you post a quote from that interview yesterday or a day before?

Not me, but I remember some board reference to that incident.

 

[BlazerWookee]

Jumpin' Jesus on a pogo stick! Do any of you really think this conversation will bear any meaningful fruit? It might as well be a debate amongst teenaged campaign volunteers before a primary election...

 

[HailBlazers]

I am not excited about the potential of the duo because I've not seen nearly enough from LMA to think that he's going to take a giant leap forward. His progress has plateaued. At this stage in his career I don't think we'll see anything but minor improvement. He's never really shown the ability to make the team better than the sum of its parts. And I've always felt that you should never build around a PF unless you think you've got the next Tim Duncan. I believe that LMA is more valuable to our team as a trade asset. I would LOVE to be wrong about this, but I just don't see anything that puts any real doubt in my mind.

To be fair LMA has never been put in this position until now, and having an elite PG makes all the difference. IMO a minor improvement with Aldridge, ie some more post moves, pnr chemistry with Lillard, and continued work on his jumper would making the starting unit (along with a legit center) capable of beating any in the league. Give it time.

Jumpin' Jesus on a pogo stick! Do any of you really think this conversation will bear any meaningful fruit? It might as well be a debate amongst teenaged campaign volunteers before a primary election...

Don't you have some Wookee hair to trim!?

 

[magnifier661]

So there was this excuse on batum and his shooting wrist. Find out Aldridge has had a nagging ankle injury since a week after te all-star break. And low and behold; that's when his performance took a dip. But hey it's Aldridge and we need to ask for more and give batum a break! Holy jebus!!!

 

[HailBlazers]

Not having a bench takes a toll, who knew.

 

[Rhal]

So there was this excuse on batum and his shooting wrist. Find out Aldridge has had a nagging ankle injury since a week after te all-star break. And low and behold; that's when his performance took a dip. But hey it's Aldridge and we need to ask for more and give batum a break! Holy jebus!!!

Bet LA injured it on a turn around fade away jumper!
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[magnifier661]

Bet LA injured it on a turn around fade away jumper!
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Game winner no less

 

[Hobbesarable]

Game winner no less

The Dallas game? How long ago was that?

 

[Natebishop3]

Does anyone really think that Aldridge will improve much more at 27? I think this is the player that we can expect to see from here on out.

 

[HailBlazers]

Does anyone really think that Aldridge will improve much more at 27? I think this is the player that we can expect to see from here on out.

He's always been a slow developer, so yes. Not to mention he's the type of player to last 7 more years in the NBA. Right now his post moves leave lots to be desired, with much room to improve, so why not?

 

[Jayps15]

Does anyone really think that Aldridge will improve much more at 27? I think this is the player that we can expect to see from here on out.

If he's still with the team I certainly hope he can recapture some of what he was doing last season and the year before. But suddenly adding to any of the areas he's deficient in is probably wishful thinking.