Aldridge PER

[THE HCP]

LbJ, Kobe, KD, Love, Aldridge.

My bad....... thought he meant all time Blazer scoring list.

 

[Boise Blazer]

My bad....... thought he meant all time Blazer scoring list.

Clyde Drexler (18,040)
Terry Porter (11,330)
Clifford Robinson (10,405)
Jerome Kersey (10,067)
Jim Paxson (10,003)

Bill Walton only played for the Blazers for four seasons (1974-78) and scored 3578 total points for them.

 

[THE HCP]

HOW MANY POINTS DOES LA HAVE^? Thanks by the way.....

 

[Boise Blazer]

HOW MANY POINTS DOES LA HAVE^? Thanks by the way.....

7140

 

[BlazerCaravan]

For anyone interested here are some of the Blazers scoring leaders through their 6th year.

http://bkref.com/tiny/uhmw0

Wrong Cliff Robinson; ours goes by Clifford:

http://bkref.com/tiny/EoSHZ

Also, you only went through Porter's 5th season. I fixed that too.

 

[Boise Blazer]

Wrong Cliff Robinson; ours goes by Clifford:

http://bkref.com/tiny/EoSHZ

Also, you only went through Porter's 5th season. I fixed that too.

Oops sorry about that. Thanks for that

 

[PtldPlatypus]

FYI--23.8 ppg over the next 123 games puts LMA 4th on that list by the end of next season.

 

[THE HCP]

^Nice work rodent!

 

[PtldPlatypus]

^Nice work rodent!

Rodents don't lay eggs. I'm a monotreme.

 

[Masbee]

That's an interesting thought ...

Here's the players that have posted a PER over 20 for the team in a given year. Aldridge WS/48 is third highest behind only behind Sabonis and Porter and bests Roy and Clyde's best years.

http://www.basketball-reference.com...comp=gt&c6mult=1.0&c6stat=&order_by=ws_per_48

EDIT: It also makes you wonder just how awesome Sabonis would have been in his prime if he hadn't been held up by the Rooskies from coming over.

One of the greatest NBA players ever. Plus, imagine Drexler, Porter, Sabonis and really, whoever. Rings baby!

 

[Rhal]

That's an interesting thought ...

Here's the players that have posted a PER over 20 for the team in a given year. Aldridge WS/48 is third highest behind only behind Sabonis and Porter and bests Roy and Clyde's best years.

http://www.basketball-reference.com...comp=gt&c6mult=1.0&c6stat=&order_by=ws_per_48

EDIT: It also makes you wonder just how awesome Sabonis would have been in his prime if he hadn't been held up by the Rooskies from coming over.

One of the greatest NBA players ever. Plus, imagine Drexler, Porter, Sabonis and really, whoever. Rings baby!

Iv always been high on sabonis my all time favoritr blazer. I think if he had come over earlier he would not just be in the alltime great center discussion but also the top 10 greatest players ever. A skill set so unique that no other center to play in the nba has ever had. He was a guard in an ultra athletic big body.

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[Boob-No-More]

[EDIT: It also makes you wonder just how awesome Sabonis would have been in his prime if he hadn't been held up by the Rooskies from coming over.

They didn't. The Soviets allowed him to leave in 1989, but Sabonis CHOSE to play in Spain for six years over the NBA.

BNM

 

[Nikolokolus]

They didn't. The Soviets allowed him to leave in 1989, but Sabonis CHOSE to play in Spain for six years over the NBA.

BNM

Interesting, I'd never heard that ... I suppose it's awfully tough to argue with getting a chance to live and work in Spain over going half-way around the world to an NBA backwater where it rains 7 months out of the year.

 

[blazerboy30]

He gets his stats when the game is cruising, not in clutch moments when it's in doubt.

Do the players with PERs near LMA not play the first 3 quarters? All you're doing is making a case that LA's PER may get better as he gets more comfortable in the go-to role.

Would you prefer if he didn't play the first 3 quarters so his PER wasn't so high? Then we would have no need for a clutch time performer.

 

[BlazerCaravan]

Do the players with PERs near LMA not play the first 3 quarters? All you're doing is making a case that LA's PER may get better as he gets more comfortable in the go-to role.

Would you prefer if he didn't play the first 3 quarters so his PER wasn't so high? Then we would have no need for a clutch time performer.

I know another player that gets all his stats in the first three quarters and shrinks like a middle school girl at a school dance in the 4th...

 

[magnifier661]

I know another player that gets all his stats in the first three quarters and shrinks like a middle school girl at a school dance in the 4th...

Howard?

 

[Boob-No-More]

Interesting, I'd never heard that ... I suppose it's awfully tough to argue with getting a chance to live and work in Spain over going half-way around the world to an NBA backwater where it rains 7 months out of the year.

He was paid a LOT of money to play a much shorter schedule - this was after his achilles injuries and he wasn't sure his body would hold up to the long, grueling NBA schedule. He won multiple MVP awards and multiple championships during his six seasons in Spain.

BNM

 

[illmatic99]

Howard?

https://twitter.com/#!/KingJames

 

[blazerboy30]

I know another player that gets all his stats in the first three quarters and shrinks like a middle school girl at a school dance in the 4th...

According to jlprk, they should be willing to trade him for 2 Batums.

 

[Masbee]

They didn't. The Soviets allowed him to leave in 1989, but Sabonis CHOSE to play in Spain for six years over the NBA.

BNM

We all later found out that (there was a good chance) Sabonis went to Spain because his trusted Russian coach steered Sabonis there.

Blazer officials suspect Sabonis' Russian coach steered Sabonis toward the pro league in Spain, rather than the U.S. He'd play there for six years.

http://news.opb.org/article/giant-questions-haunt-blazers-fans-and-their-hall-fame-lithuanian/

All the while, Portland was working on its end to get Sabonis to the NBA. The Blazers were aware they would to have to pay off somebody — probably Alexander Gomelsky, the Soviet national coach and Sabonis’ guru — to facilitate a deal.

http://www.portlandtribune.com/sports/story_2nd.php?story_id=131301031819329900

I seem to remember a few years ago a mention of a rumor that the coach was paid (without Sabonis' knowledge) appx $50,000 for delivering Sabonis.

 

[DUB]

They didn't. The Soviets allowed him to leave in 1989, but Sabonis CHOSE to play in Spain for six years over the NBA.

BNM

Sort of. It was his choice, but it seems like a choice strongly influenced by someone who may not have necessarily had Sabonis' best interest at heart (or at least thought that going to the NBA wasn't the best thing for Sabonis).

Although it does seem that we may have been able to get him over earlier if we had have pushed harder.

The first influential imports arrived in the NBA in 1989. FIBA, the international governing body of basketball, permitted NBA players to play in the Olympics. The decision allowed foreign-born players to play professionally while still remaining eligible to represent their home countries in international play. The first class of imports included Sabonis' fellow countryman Marciulionis (Golden State), Vlade Divac (Los Angeles Lakers), Alexander Volkov (Atlanta), and Drazen Petrovic (Portland). Sabonis was not among the first wave. There is little debate that Gomelsky possessed large influence over his 7-3 prodigy. In many basketball circles, the diminutive Gomelsky was regarded as Russia's John Wooden. Gomelsky coached the Soviet Union national team for nearly three decades, claimed six European championships, and is also in the Hall of Fame. When describing the relationship Sabonis had with Gomelsky, Walton explained, "So many people have been touched by their great coaches, none more so than me, but Sabonis had a privilege of playing for Gomelsky, and when you bring up Gomelsky's name, Sabonis' eyes and face just lights up." Others close to Sabonis at the time who asked not to be identified say that Gomelsky received some of Sabonis' paycheck and had financial incentive in keeping him away from the NBA. Gomelsky, according to the sources, told Sabonis he would be putting his family in harm's way if they moved to America. Sabonis said that he did not believe his body could hold up to the rigors of the professional basketball in the United States. "By myself, I don't think I was available to play at that level," Sabonis said. "It was a little danger, I thought. Maybe not, maybe I was wrong. But at that time, nobody talked with me seriously, though, and somebody from Spain started first and said let's go." Sabonis joined Real Madrid in 1992 and won two Spanish League titles.

http://www.grantland.com/print?id=6867508

Sabonis visited Portland in 1987 – but only to get treatment for a nagging heel injury. The visit also gave Sabonis' would-be teammates a taste of what they were missing.

"Your first impression is 'Wow, he's tall,'" Terry Porter remembers.

Porter --- who’s 6 foot 3 --- played point guard for the Trail Blazers from 1985 to 1995.

"He wasn't 100-percent, you could see his skill-set. You could see his ability to shoot the ball out to three, see his ability to post the ball, when he has the ball in the post. From a player and a teammate standpoint, I'm thinking 'Oh my God, wouldn't it be great to have him on the team!'."

But Sabonis didn't join the Blazers then. He returned to the Soviet Union where he helped the national team beat the U.S. in the 1988 Olympic games.

A year later, the Berlin Wall came down and with politics no longer a barrier, the Blazers renewed their efforts.

Blazer officials suspect Sabonis' Russian coach steered Sabonis toward the pro league in Spain, rather than the U.S. He'd play there for six years

http://news.opb.org/article/giant-questions-haunt-blazers-fans-and-their-hall-fame-lithuanian/

 

[DUB]

We all later found out that (there was a good chance) Sabonis went to Spain because his trusted Russian coach steered Sabonis there.

BAH! Beat me to it.

That'll teach me for doing something else halfway through replying to a post.

 

[jlprk]

Do the players with PERs near LMA not play the first 3 quarters? All you're doing is making a case that LA's PER may get better as he gets more comfortable in the go-to role. Would you prefer if he didn't play the first 3 quarters so his PER wasn't so high? Then we would have no need for a clutch time performer.

Irrelevant to the fact that his PER comes from the first 3 quarters.

According to jlprk, they should be willing to trade him for 2 Batums.

I said two Batums would win us more games than one Aldridge, not one LeBron James. I didn't mention James.

 

[blazerboy30]

Irrelevant to the fact that his PER comes from the first 3 quarters.

What's irrelevant is your entire premise that he doesn't perform well in the 4th, so his PER should be disregarded. If you want to talk about 4th quarter performance, you're in the wrong thread. Start a new thread.

I said two Batums would win us more games than one Aldridge

Same as saying somebody should trade 2 Batum's for somebody that doesn't perform in the 4th quarter.

, not one LeBron James. I didn't mention James.

I didn't either. I responded to some hypothetical player that doesn't perform in the 4th quarter. You're making the assumption it is Lebron.

So we should trade LA for 2 Batum's because he doesn't perform in the 4th quarter, but "not one LeBron", who also doesn't perform in the 4th quarter.

Why are you such a LeBron fan-boy?

 

[jlprk]

Well, if LeBron is worth 2 Aldridges, and 1/8 of each player's results come in the 4th quarter, then LeBron gets the same results as Aldridge would if he had good 4th quarters. (2 x 1/8 = 1/4)

Also, since 2 Batums > 1 Aldridge, then 3 Batums < 1 LeBron < 4 Batums.

If you think this is irrelevant, then you need to start a new thread.

 

[magnifier661]

Well, if LeBron is worth 2 Aldridges, and 1/8 of each player's results come in the 4th quarter, then LeBron gets the same results as Aldridge would if he had good 4th quarters. (2 x 1/8 = 1/4)

Also, since 2 Batums > 1 Aldridge, then 3 Batums < 1 LeBron < 4 Batums.

If you think this is irrelevant, then you need to start a new thread.

If there was 3 Batums or 1 batum and an Aldridge. I would take Aldridge and Batum. Aldridge is more valuable than 2 Batum's because his game is at a different level. Also, he has a dynamic game of inside, outside and rebounding. Something Batum isn't qualified to carry a team with.

 

[blazerboy30]

Well, if LeBron is worth 2 Aldridges,

He's not... making the rest of your post gibberish, and again, irrelevant.

Also, since 2 Batums > 1 Aldridge, then 3 Batums < 1 LeBron < 4 Batums.

Damn. You do people taxes with math and logic skills like this? That sequence doesn't come close to being logical. To make it easier for you, try plugging in the following numbers: Batum = 2. LA = 3, Lebron = 5. Doesn't work, does it?

If you think this is irrelevant, then you need to start a new thread.

It isn't only irrelevant, but completely lacking in logic and reality. This thread was about production, as measured by PER.

You should start a new thread on the random tangent you went on where you invented new math rules.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

Also, since 2 Batums > 1 Aldridge, then 3 Batums < 1 LeBron < 4 Batums.

To make it easier for you, try plugging in the following numbers: Batum = 2. LA = 3, Lebron = 5. Doesn't work, does it?

Sure, but if Batum is 4, Aldridge is 7, and Lebron is 14, then it all fits!

 

[blazerboy30]

Sure, but if Batum is 4, Aldridge is 7, and Lebron is 14, then it all fits!

Would you trade 2 LMAs for 1 Lebron?

 

[PtldPlatypus]

Would you trade 2 LMAs for 1 Lebron?

Nope--I'd start them side-by-side and confuse the hell out of the defense.