Politics All staff White House meeting tomorrow

[jonnyboy]

Did you watch the debate? What did you think of the other guy? We know you’re feeling on Biden. I strongly disagree, but I understand your position even as disrespectful and arrogant as you are. But what is your thought on Trump? Did you listen to any of his answers?

Trump is exactly who we all know he is, from a personality standpoint. He’s a douche. All the fear mongering about ‘the end of democracy’ blah blah blah is all just hyperbolic, crybaby democrat bullshit though. Trying to scare people into a vote. Biden sat up there and lied just as much as Trump did. Nearly every statement he made was total bullshit (when you could actually understand what the fuck he was trying to say). Even CNN sat there and tore him apart with fact checks post-debate. You have no logical basis to take any moral high ground on ANYTHING regarding the debate. You are egging on the continued elder abuse of an old corrupt racist while trying to frame it as some sort of patriotic ‘support’ for a ‘good candidate’. It’s silly and really just sad. The whole thing is unfortunate to look at.

 

[crandc]

Biden needs to show he is fighting Joe. Do all the Sunday shoes including Fox. Go to swing states, get on local TV, have town halls. Go to Black churches on Sunday. He needs to be visible. There is a good record to run on. And his opponent has 34 felony convictions and wants to be distator. Trump's new poll lead is really a surge in undecided. Make them decide.

 

[Voodoo]

Trump is exactly who we all know he is, from a personality standpoint. He’s a douche. All the fear mongering about ‘the end of democracy’ blah blah blah is all just hyperbolic, crybaby democrat bullshit though. Trying to scare people into a vote. Biden sat up there and lied just as much as Trump did. Nearly every statement he made was total bullshit (when you could actually understand what the fuck he was trying to say). Even CNN sat there and tore him apart with fact checks post-debate. You have no logical basis to take any moral high ground on ANYTHING regarding the debate. You are egging on the continued elder abuse of an old corrupt racist while trying to frame it as some sort of patriotic ‘support’ for a ‘good candidate’. It’s silly and really just sad. The whole thing is unfortunate to look at.

Yes yes, we know how you feel about Biden, your parroting of Fox is old man get a new line. My question was not about Biden though, my question was about Trump. Did you watch the debate? The guy didn’t answer a single question, like not even one, it was pathetic. The guy is a self absorbed pathological liar who is completely incoherent. And this was arguably his best night, and he was still incoherent af my man.

My question is simply this - do you support this man to become president? Let me remind you, he’s a racist, a rapist, a felon, a seditious traitor to the United States, a conman, a pathological liar, and is likely also a pedophile? Do you support this man?

 

[PCmor7]

Biden needs to show he is fighting Joe. Do all the Sunday shoes including Fox. Go to swing states, get on local TV, have town halls. Go to Black churches on Sunday. He needs to be visible. There is a good record to run on. And his opponent has 34 felony convictions and wants to be distator. Trump's new poll lead is really a surge in undecided. Make them decide.

I'm going to disagree with you on a couple of points and agree with Voodoo on a couple of others.

Biden is legitimately old. He doesn't have the energy to do what you are suggesting and run the country at the same time and if he does 98 of those appearances right but gets two wrong, the two wrong ones are all the corporate media and the fascist MAGA election campaign are going to focus on. He definitely doesn't do Fox, where there's nothing to be gained.

You need surrogates to go out and say Joe isn't there BECAUSE he's doing things for them, and there are a litany of achievements you can rattle off.

Then, you drive the points home by displaying all of Trump's wart. You show his record. You trot out video of him. He expose people to Project 2025. You run against what SCOTUS has done. You show the actual deep fakes, like side-by-side video of Biden talking to the skydivers in England when the GOP tried to make it look like he was wandering off by cropping the footage.

I'm not even against using the stuff that's out there now about Trump's ties to Epstein. I'd like to take the high road, but this isn't the time, and, if we know anything about Trump, if there was something bad to be done, he's done it, so, chances are he did something along those lines anyway.

However, you don't take a guy you doesn't have a lot of energy and give him more to do and more opportunity to mess up. Quality over quantity.

 

[PCmor7]

You show video of the problems at the border, and you tie Trump to that by showing Republican legislators telling them he said not to fix it.

You show the numbers of COVID deaths and then show Trump talking about ingesting bleach as a cure.

You show Trump calling for military tribunals against dissenters or calling John McCain a loser.

You show Trump saying he was going to get infrastructure done and then Biden actually getting it done.

You show Trump standing up for Putin in Helsinki and footage of Ukrainians suffering from his invasion.

You show video of Trump telling his supporters to fight at the Ellipse and fade into police being assaulted at the Capitol.

Then you show SCOTUS giving a president unprecedented power and ask viewers if this Trump is the guy you don't want checked and balanced.

Biden's not the perfect candidate, but having trouble in a debate doesn't make someone a threat to our liberty, which Trump is.

 

[Hoopguru]

This whole situation kind of reminds of when Bernie was doing well in 2020 primaries going into SC you could see change in the media narrative, promoting Joe. SC turned the race for Joe he wasn't doing anything upto then. The DNC wanted to coronate Joe rather than maybe Bernie winning. Do think its possible the DNC now wants to change horses and coronate Kamala?

 

[Chris Craig]

Yes yes, we know how you feel about Biden, your parroting of Fox is old man get a new line. My question was not about Biden though, my question was about Trump. Did you watch the debate? The guy didn’t answer a single question, like not even one, it was pathetic. The guy is a self absorbed pathological liar who is completely incoherent. And this was arguably his best night, and he was still incoherent af my man.

My question is simply this - do you support this man to become president? Let me remind you, he’s a racist, a rapist, a felon, a seditious traitor to the United States, a conman, a pathological liar, and is likely also a pedophile? Do you support this man?

He has already said he does.

 

[Chris Craig]

This whole situation kind of reminds of when Bernie was doing well in 2020 primaries going into SC you could see change in the media narrative, promoting Joe. SC turned the race for Joe he wasn't doing anything upto then. The DNC wanted to coronate Joe rather than maybe Bernie winning. Do think its possible the DNC now wants to change horses and coronate Kamala?

I'm sure they'd love too, but they can't change horses midstream.

 

[MickZagger]

Biden needs to show he is fighting Joe. Do all the Sunday shoes including Fox. Go to swing states, get on local TV, have town halls. Go to Black churches on Sunday. He needs to be visible. There is a good record to run on. And his opponent has 34 felony convictions and wants to be distator. Trump's new poll lead is really a surge in undecided. Make them decide.

I don’t think there’s really too many undecided in such a polarizing race.

It’s more about who is actually going to vote

 

[crandc]

Actually there are undecided, some like Biden but unsure he is up to the job, some dislike both but plan to vote for... someone.

 

[Chris Craig]

Actually there are undecided, some like Biden but unsure he is up to the job, some dislike both but plan to vote for... someone.

But, when it comes down to it, they know what they are going to do.

 

[Hoopguru]

I'm sure they'd love too, but they can't change horses midstream.

Unless through media (instigated ny DNC) they pressure Joe to drop out or resign. Isn't that changing horses in the middle of a campaign?

 

[MickZagger]

This notion that Biden’s a bad President is funny.

My biggest accomplishments I’ve had in my life have been during the 4 years Bidens been in office.

Inflation is what republicans want to hang their hat on. Uh, inflation is a worldwide problem. Not just here.

Something something trickle down….

No. Corporations and their stakeholders are greedy fucks.

I got married, we got a bun in the oven, bought essentially a dream home, hit my first 100k in the 401k and got the best union contract imaginable under his time in office. Life is good.

The snowflakes complaining need to “lift themselves up by their bootstraps” or something something

 

[MickZagger]

Actually there are undecided, some like Biden but unsure he is up to the job, some dislike both but plan to vote for... someone.

Is it better for R’s or D’s if RFK peels some votes away?

 

[PCmor7]

Is it better for R’s or D’s if RFK peels some votes away?

The polling I showed a couple of months ago had him pulling more Trump voters even though the Trump campaign supposedly wanted him to run.

If you saw the footage from the Libertarian Convention a few weeks ago, that's not hard to believe. RFK got a much more welcoming reception than Trump did.

 

[Voodoo]

He has already said he does.

Then he has nothing more useful to contribute to this conversation. He needs to come out and acknowledge that he supports a fascist, pedophile, felon, rapist, lying conman and really lean in. Come on man tell us who you really are.

 

[Voodoo]

This notion that Biden’s a bad President is funny.

My biggest accomplishments I’ve had in my life have been during the 4 years Bidens been in office.

Inflation is what republicans want to hang their hat on. Uh, inflation is a worldwide problem. Not just here.

Something something trickle down….

No. Corporations and their stakeholders are greedy fucks.

I got married, we got a bun in the oven, bought essentially a dream home, hit my first 100k in the 401k and got the best union contract imaginable under his time in office. Life is good.

The snowflakes complaining need to “lift themselves up by their bootstraps” or something something

Exactly, well said my friend. Don’t let the fascists get away with all the lies.

 

[crandc]

This notion that Biden’s a bad President is funny.

My biggest accomplishments I’ve had in my life have been during the 4 years Bidens been in office.

Inflation is what republicans want to hang their hat on. Uh, inflation is a worldwide problem. Not just here.

Something something trickle down….

No. Corporations and their stakeholders are greedy fucks.

I got married, we got a bun in the oven, bought essentially a dream home, hit my first 100k in the 401k and got the best union contract imaginable under his time in office. Life is good.

The snowflakes complaining need to “lift themselves up by their bootstraps” or something something

Some serious mazel tov in order!
My life not quite as dramatic. But ballet and theater open again as vaccine distributed. I bought a house, which I never thought would be possible. In process of getting solar. I can make the outlay because my accounts are up even though I am retired and drawing on them and because law now gives a 30% tax rebate,so I can return the money to my account next year.

 

[MickZagger]

Some serious mazel tov in order!
My life not quite as dramatic. But ballet and theater open again as vaccine distributed. I bought a house, which I never thought would be possible. In process of getting solar. I can make the outlay because my accounts are up even though I am retired and drawing on them and because law now gives a 30% tax rebate,so I can return the money to my account next year.

Cheers!

 

[jonnyboy]

Then he has nothing more useful to contribute to this conversation. He needs to come out and acknowledge that he supports a fascist, pedophile, felon, rapist, lying conman and really lean in. Come on man tell us who you really are.

Joe Biden raped Tara Reade. Joe Biden put thousands of minorities in prison with his crime bill. Joe Biden sold his influence to sway corrupt business dealings with his degenerate son. Joe Biden supported wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. Joe Biden is on video saying shit so racist it would make a klansman blush. Joe Biden on paper has done and said much worse things than most politicians on either side, including Trump.
*personal attack deleted*

 

[jonnyboy]

Then he has nothing more useful to contribute to this conversation. He needs to come out and acknowledge that he supports a fascist, pedophile, felon, rapist, lying conman and really lean in. Come on man tell us who you really are.

It’s funny you are trying to “out” me in front of the group, like you have some sort of authority here, or get to decide who is allowed to share their opinions. You’ve decided i “have nothing to contribute” based entirely on the fact my opinion differs from yours or i may vote differently. You are so deep into groupthink that you actually get offended when someone who doesn’t share your opinion is ‘allowed’ to enter your safe bubble and personally inconvenience you by saying something you disagree with. How pathetic.

 

[Voodoo]

It’s funny you are trying to “out” me in front of the group, like you have some sort of authority here, or get to decide who is allowed to share their opinions. You’ve decided i “have nothing to contribute” based entirely on the fact my opinion differs from yours or i may vote differently. You are so deep into groupthink that you actually get offended when someone who doesn’t share your opinion is ‘allowed’ to enter your safe bubble and personally inconvenience you by saying something you disagree with. How pathetic.

Lol what a snowflake. Instead of answering the question you just stoop to personal insults. Like a true MAGA fascist follower. Please keep it coming as the only one pathetic is the one who stoops to personal insults and avoids answering questions.

 

[Voodoo]

Joe Biden raped Tara Reade. Joe Biden put thousands of minorities in prison with his crime bill. Joe Biden sold his influence to sway corrupt business dealings with his degenerate son. Joe Biden supported wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. Joe Biden is on video saying shit so racist it would make a klansman blush. Joe Biden on paper has done and said much worse things than most politicians on either side, including Trump. You are just an empty vessel who likes to be told comfortable lies by scumbags. You aren’t smart enough to make an intelligent argument so you just throw around debunked claims and hope they stick. You are a good boy though and deserve a pat on the head from a politician.

Thanks for continuing to out yourself for who you are. You’re such a snowflake you cannot even answer the most basic of question. Your insecure projections are quite sad haha. What a sad sad response, but par for the course for someone who votes and supports a conman pedophile.

 

[Voodoo]

It’s funny you are trying to “out” me in front of the group, like you have some sort of authority here, or get to decide who is allowed to share their opinions. You’ve decided i “have nothing to contribute” based entirely on the fact my opinion differs from yours or i may vote differently. You are so deep into groupthink that you actually get offended when someone who doesn’t share your opinion is ‘allowed’ to enter your safe bubble and personally inconvenience you by saying something you disagree with. How pathetic.

And for the record some of my closest mentors have been republicans and who I’ve had disagreements with. I have no qualms about people who have differing opinions on politics, but where I draw the line is when people lie, like you. Your opinions and narratives are objectively false, they are literal lies, and I do not put up with that. I’ve become much more conservative as I’ve gotten older, but man, the lies from Trump acolytes are unacceptable and need to be called out.

But please, keep up the insults, projection, and avoiding answering any questions. Your entire MO is obvious, you avoid answering questions and instead just attack attack attack. You have no substance at all to your claims beyond what is literally posted all over Fox, or Breitbart or whatever right wing propaganda site. So yes your opinions are indeed irrelevant to me as they have no substance and you can never support your claims with evidence. So yes, you provide nothing of value to this community since you don’t bother to engage or try to have an honest conversation.

 

[Everything Beagle]

Come on we know Sly pays both Jonny and Beast to post their takes so the OT forum stays active. Both of those guys are paid crisis actors.

 

[jonnyboy]

Lol what a snowflake. Instead of answering the question you just stoop to personal insults. Like a true MAGA fascist follower

The irony here is actually mind blowing.

You managed to sandwich your point about personal insults between two personal insults.

Zero. Self. Awareness.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Come on we know Sly pays both Jonny and Beast to post their takes so the OT forum stays active. Both of those guys are paid crisis actors.

 

[Everything Beagle]

Yeah "George Slyros" I know your game

 

[jonnyboy]

Lol what a snowflake

You’re such a snowflake

Yes, such a snowflake i cry to the mods to protect me from extremely mild “personal insults” Lol. You are a case study in irony while being completely aloof to it.

Whine more about personal insults then proceed to call people snowflakes and make personal insults. Ready set break!

 

[Kano John]

And for the record some of my closest mentors have been republicans and who I’ve had disagreements with. I have no qualms about people who have differing opinions on politics, but where I draw the line is when people lie, like you. Your opinions and narratives are objectively false, they are literal lies, and I do not put up with that. I’ve become much more conservative as I’ve gotten older, but man, the lies from Trump acolytes are unacceptable and need to be called out.

But please, keep up the insults, projection, and avoiding answering any questions. Your entire MO is obvious, you avoid answering questions and instead just attack attack attack. You have no substance at all to your claims beyond what is literally posted all over Fox, or Breitbart or whatever right wing propaganda site. So yes your opinions are indeed irrelevant to me as they have no substance and you can never support your claims with evidence. So yes, you provide nothing of value to this community since you don’t bother to engage or try to have an honest conversation.

Come on Voodoo - don't hold back, tell us how you really feel! LOL