All the Playoff Scenarios (This was a lot of work)

[OSUBlazerfan]

If we end up with the same record as SA and OKC wins tonight, it will be a three way tie. And our record vs. all three will take precedence for tiebreaker.

Everywhere I've read that head to head determines hca.

 

[OSUBlazerfan]

Taken from a different post


http://www.nba.com/blazers/forwardcenter/playoff-race-update-it-comes-down-finale
2) From there, as you can see from the spreadsheet, it gets more complicated. The first and ninth scenarios (Denver, San Antonio, Oklahoma City and Utah win; Minnesota, San Antonio, Oklahoma City and Utah win) are the most difficult to figure out, as it results in a three-way tie resulting in the Trail Blazers getting the four seed and a matchup with the Spurs, though in that scenario, the Spurs would have homecourt advantage due to head-to-head record. This is because the Blazers would win the three-way "seeding" tiebreaker over the Spurs and Thunder, all of which would have 48-34 records, but not the homecourt advantage tiebreaker, which the Spurs would own due to winning the season series 2-1. There's been quite a bit of confusion about this scenario, as people are understandably under the impression that the higher seed always gets homecourt, but that's not the case.Please stop arguing with me about it.

 

[crandc]

I'm too damn nervous to watch the games and too damn nervous not to. And on a crazy news day when normally I'd be wanting to see news shows.

 

[KingSpeed]

Taken from a different post


http://www.nba.com/blazers/forwardcenter/playoff-race-update-it-comes-down-finale
2) From there, as you can see from the spreadsheet, it gets more complicated. The first and ninth scenarios (Denver, San Antonio, Oklahoma City and Utah win; Minnesota, San Antonio, Oklahoma City and Utah win) are the most difficult to figure out, as it results in a three-way tie resulting in the Trail Blazers getting the four seed and a matchup with the Spurs, though in that scenario, the Spurs would have homecourt advantage due to head-to-head record. This is because the Blazers would win the three-way "seeding" tiebreaker over the Spurs and Thunder, all of which would have 48-34 records, but not the homecourt advantage tiebreaker, which the Spurs would own due to winning the season series 2-1. There's been quite a bit of confusion about this scenario, as people are understandably under the impression that the higher seed always gets homecourt, but that's not the case.Please stop arguing with me about it.

This is ridiculous. This punishes us for winning the three way tie. They have a lot of explaining to do. The 2015 memo was based on teams getting a higher seed because of winning a division, not because of winning a three way tie.

 

[hoopsjock]

This is ridiculous. This punishes us for winning the three way tie. They have a lot of explaining to do. The 2015 memo was based on teams getting a higher seed because of winning a division, not because of winning a three way tie.

See this is why I think the higher seed gets HCA. The NBA simply eliminated any funny business. If the Spurs had homecourt they'd be the 4 seed after the tiebreaker.

 

[Reep]

This is ridiculous. This punishes us for winning the three way tie. They have a lot of explaining to do. The 2015 memo was based on teams getting a higher seed because of winning a division, not because of winning a three way tie.

Honestly, I would want it this way. In a series where you are tied with another team, the H2H should determine home court. My biggest gripe with it is that if you only play three games against that team, and two are away, then you get hosed.

 

[BonesJones]

This is directly from the NBA. All tie breakers figured out. People are still arguing about who is playing who and who isn’t. This should pretty much answer everything. Petty? Trying to help with the confusion.

I congratulate you on surprising me with your response.

 

[BonesJones]

If we get another Top 4 seed without HCA I'll be pissed.

 

[KingSpeed]

Honestly, I would want it this way. In a series where you are tied with another team, the H2H should determine home court. My biggest gripe with it is that if you only play three games against that team, and two are away, then you get hosed.

Its head to head to head, not head to head, because THREE TEAMS ARE TIED.

 

[Chris Craig]

See this is why I think the higher seed gets HCA. The NBA simply eliminated any funny business. If the Spurs had homecourt they'd be the 4 seed after the tiebreaker.

I hope your right

 

[BonesJones]

Honestly, in tiebreakers, they should use a tiebreaker for the number of teams then, eight gets a higher seed from that tiebreaker, gets HCA.

 

[Reep]

Its head to head to head, not head to head, because THREE TEAMS ARE TIED.

I guess I compartmentalize well. The teams are tied for seeding, but we'd all be moaning if Portland lost home court to OKC because they found their way into a three way tie.

 

[KingSpeed]

I guess I compartmentalize well. The teams are tied for seeding, but we'd all be moaning if Portland lost home court to OKC because they found their way into a three way tie.

But that's just it! We are being punished for winning the three way tie. If the three way tie was broken differently, we could get 5 seed against OKC and have HCA. They shouldn't punish us for winning three way tie.

 

[Chris Craig]

I guess I compartmentalize well. The teams are tied for seeding, but we'd all be moaning if Portland lost home court to OKC because they found their way into a three way tie.

We can't lose HCA to OKC we swept them

 

[Chris Craig]

But that's just it! We are being punished for winning the three way tie. If the three way tie was broken differently, we could get 5 seed against OKC and have HCA. They shouldn't punish us for winning three way tie.

I agree. That doesn't make since at all.

 

[KingSpeed]

I agree. That doesn't make since at all.

Someone should tell us who is the final word. Adam Silver has to step up.

 

[Reep]

We can't lose HCA to OKC we swept them

I was speaking hypothetically about another year where we also beat OKC. The point is, we wouldn't want to be on the other end of the deal where we won a season series, but lost home court because of some other team's record.

 

[Chris Craig]

Someone should tell us who is the final word. Adam Silver has to step up.

He will say since it is obscure they will do it the way that screws us this year then change it next year.

 

[KingSpeed]

I was speaking hypothetically about another year where we also beat OKC. The point is, we wouldn't want to be on the other end of the deal where we won a season series, but lost home court because of some other team's record.

We never would though because we wouldn't lose the three way tie. When you're record vs one of the teams in the head to head to head is 4-0, you are going to lose the head to head to head.

 

[Chris Craig]

I was speaking hypothetically about another year where we also beat OKC. The point is, we wouldn't want to be on the other end of the deal where we won a season series, but lost home court because of some other team's record.

I see what your saying but that woulsn't really be the case. The Blazers earned tje tie breaker by having the best head to head between the three teams. Its not the Blazers fault the Spurs didnt sweep OKC

 

[Reep]

I see what your saying but that woulsn't really be the case. The Blazers earned tje tie breaker by having the best head to head between the three teams. Its not the Blazers fault the Spurs didnt sweep OKC

Right. I guess I just like two standards for this scenario. I don't want the third team effecting HCA between the two teams that are playing.

The league could do it either way. If people complain then just tell them to not get tied up at the end of 82 games.

 

[KingSpeed]

Right. I guess I just like two standards for this scenario. I don't want the third team effecting HCA between the two teams that are playing.

The league could do it either way. If people complain then just tell them to not get tied up at the end of 82 games.

But that penalizes us for winning three way tie. If three way tie matched us up with OKC, then we would get HCA according to people who are saying it's only head to head after the tie breaker.

 

[tester551]

Right. I guess I just like two standards for this scenario. I don't want the third team effecting HCA between the two teams that are playing.

The league could do it either way. If people complain then just tell them to not get tied up at the end of 82 games.

I agree. Both have merit.

The infuriating thing to me, is it is not clear. That is something that should be cut & dry what the rules and procedures are.

 

[Reep]

But that penalizes us for winning three way tie. If three way tie matched us up with OKC, then we would get HCA according to people who are saying it's only head to head after the tie breaker.

I think the problem you are having relates to the word "winning". In a three-way tie, none of the three win--they are tied. However, they need to be placed into a specific order for seeding, so there are rules for that. HCA also has to be determined.

The only way you win, is to make sure you have more wins at the end of the season than the other guys. We didn't do that--yet. All will be fixed when we put the Jazz into their proper place.

 

[KingSpeed]

I think the problem you are having relates to the word "winning". In a three-way tie, none of the three win--they are tied. However, they need to be placed into a specific order for seeding, so there are rules for that. HCA also has to be determined.

The only way you win, is to make sure you have more wins at the end of the season than the other guys. We didn't do that--yet. All will be fixed when we put the Jazz into their proper place.

Word.

 

[crandc]

Easy solution. Blazers win tonight.

As of this moment Pelicans, Twolves, OKC lead.

 

[KingSpeed]

We have HCA if Pelicans win right now.

 

[KingSpeed]

According to all my scenarios, and assuming NO/OKC/Minn win, we will either be 4 seed/HCA vs New Orleans or 3 seed/HCA vs New Orleans.

 

[crandc]

I printed up the chart and now all but two scenarios are crossed out

 

[KingSpeed]

Here it is:

1. Houston
2. GS
3. Portland
4. OKC
5. Utah
6. NO
7. SA
8. Minnesota