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SharpeScooterShooter said:
Fair enough. I wanted us to make moves to get up to #2 to get Miller but that was based on trying to keep Dame. I think Dame would have left no matter what unless we traded the pick for an all star caliber player
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The Hornets are building around 22-year-old Lamelo Ball.

To me it's highly unlikely they would have traded away the rights to 20-year-old Brandon Miller.
 
If Brandon keeps pouring in 20+ a night, we might have a 3-way faceoff for rookie of the year.
 
SharpeScooterShooter said:
I’m rooting for scoot but I can’t deny I don’t have my concerns he will never meet the expectations based on the reports of his game. My other concern is size. It’s a tall guards league. I’m still in his camp for now though.
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I am not in your camp here as I consider his size a plus especially on D. He's small & quick enough to keep the league's speed burners in front of him but big enough (wingspan & bulk) to switch off onto wings so much better then many PGs including the great Dame. I really hope he puts a lot of focus on that end as he has potential to be a real difference maker there.

My concern is mostly about his jumper and if he doesn't rework his shot mechanics.

STOMP
 
STOMP said:
I am not in your camp here as I consider his size a plus especially on D. He's small & quick enough to keep the league's speed burners in front of him but big enough (wingspan & bulk) to switch off onto wings so much better then many PGs including the great Dame. I really hope he puts a lot of focus on that end as he has potential to be a real difference maker there.

My concern is mostly about his jumper and if he doesn't rework his shot mechanics.

STOMP
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Good points. I didn't really think that thru. Its more about both our guards. Jusf not a fan of two 6'3" guards when so many other elite guards/ball handlers in the league are currently 6'5" or more.
 
SharpeScooterShooter said:
Good points. I didn't really think that thru. Its more about both our guards. Jusf not a fan of two 6'3" guards when so many other elite guards/ball handlers in the league are currently 6'5" or more.
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IIrc, Sharpe measured 6'4.5 barefoot. If all three of Portland's young guards develop as we collectively hope, my guess is things will work best if Ant is the 6th man/instant offense guy.

STOMP
 
STOMP said:
IIrc, Sharpe measured 6'4.5 barefoot. If all three of Portland's young guards develop as we collectively hope, my guess is things will work best if Ant is the 6th man/instant offense guy.

STOMP
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I agree but will he accept that position? The optimal future is yes. Because if scoot and Sharpe( my guy) develops as hoped, that’s a lethal three guard rotation.
I will say I love some of the passes that Ant was dishing to DA last night. Whoever says Ant is a ball hog is not watching the games. He is absolutely improving his passing and silliness to assist vs score.
 
SharpeScooterShooter said:
I agree but will he accept that position? The optimal future is yes.
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Generalizing... the primary motivation for young guys in the league is to 1. get paid 2. win. Guessing accepting being a non-starter would be a whole lot easier if you're getting paid what you hope for and especially if the team was winning.

STOMP
 
STOMP said:
Generalizing... the primary motivation for young guys in the league is to 1. get paid 2. win. Guessing accepting being a non-starter would be a whole lot easier if you're getting paid what you hope for and especially if the team was winning.

STOMP
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Very true.
 
Brandon went 0-7 from deep last night.
he's a total bust, Scoot was the only transcendent generational talent in this draft.
 
STOMP said:
Generalizing... the primary motivation for young guys in the league is to 1. get paid 2. win. Guessing accepting being a non-starter would be a whole lot easier if you're getting paid what you hope for and especially if the team was winning.

STOMP
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Pretty much agree. I would also add, if I were a name mentioned daily in trade talks, there is no way I sit and come off the bench unless ordered to do so. I would want to start to have the optimal chance of proving myself to valuable to be traded.
He has the contract. But the team is not playing, well so I could see him thinking to myself, “ im arguably the best player on this team. No way I come off the bench and waste my career stats for the development of players that may never even be as good as I am right now.”
 
SharpeScooterShooter said:
Pretty much agree. I would also add, if I were a name mentioned daily in trade talks, there is no way I sit and come off the bench unless ordered to do so. I would want to start to have the optimal chance of proving myself to valuable to be traded.
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It's professional sports and part of the gig is that GMs are going to talk about their players in trades probably a whole lot more then we're privy to. If you were a pro athlete balking at this reality, you would be unprofessional. You don't set the lineups, the coach does. If you refuse to play coming off the bench, you don't get paid which goes against my listed player priority #1

He has the contract. But the team is not playing, well so I could see him thinking to myself, “ im arguably the best player on this team. No way I come off the bench and waste my career stats for the development of players that may never even be as good as I am right now.”
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Ant is currently being very well compensated and the team sucks no matter who is starting. When I speculated about him eventually coming off the bench, it was in the scenario that it would work best that way for team chemistry after (and IF) he, Scoot & Shaedon have all developed (meaning reached their collective ceilings). That is at least a season or two away. Presently they are being schooled & (hopefully) absorbing the lessons & not getting down over short term results. If the trio is kept together and they start winning down the line, thats when they can start figuring out which lineups work best. I will point out that there are 96 minutes per game available to the two backcourt spots... split 3 ways thats 32 each regardless of who starts and of course all three could spend some time on the court together.

STOMP
 
STOMP said:
It's professional sports and part of the gig is that GMs are going to talk about their players in trades probably a whole lot more then we're privy to. If you were a pro athlete balking at this reality, you would be unprofessional. You don't set the lineups, the coach does. If you refuse to play coming off the bench, you don't get paid which goes against my listed player priority #1


Ant is currently being very well compensated and the team sucks no matter who is starting. When I speculated about him eventually coming off the bench, it was in the scenario that it would work best that way for team chemistry after (and IF) he, Scoot & Shaedon have all developed (meaning reached their collective ceilings). That is at least a season or two away. Presently they are being schooled & (hopefully) absorbing the lessons & not getting down over short term results. If the trio is kept together and they start winning down the line, thats when they can start figuring out which lineups work best. I will point out that there are 96 minutes per game available to the two backcourt spots... split 3 ways thats 32 each regardless of who starts and of course all three could spend some time on the court together.

STOMP
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I wasn’t implying he would refuse if ordered. Just not going to volunteer the move for the betterment of the team. Coach/gm would need to order him.
 
Whyachi said:
hold that thought, the Hornets are the league's biggest idiots and might trade him. Scoot & Miller could be teammates if the Blazers roll the dice.
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Wait, what? They might trade him? Will they take Brogdon, Grant, and a million 2nd rounders?
 
Whyachi said:
Miller in February:
26pts, 40% 3pt, 5/2/2/1

I hate to admit when Danny Marang was right.
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Sure wish there would have been a way to move up in the draft and acquire him. If Dame had demanded a trade predraft, I wouldn't have been opposed to trading him to the hornets for their pick and Ball. Not sure if they would have done that or not, but with the demand, I would have.
 
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