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I know people don’t like his age, but this dude could thrive next to Scoot.
 
Height w/o shoes 6'5.25
Age 23.2
Weight 212.2
Standing Reach 8'7.5
Wingspan 6'9.0
 
For comparison Sharpe two years ago;
Standing Reach 8'7.5 (same)
Wingspan 6'11.5 (Sharpe 2.5" longer)
 
The next Sam Dekker or the next Tom Chambers. You decide.
 
SharpesTriumph said:
Smaller than Sharpe, 2 years old than him, 3 years older than Rupert, and even older than Jabari Walker - no thanks.
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Wouldn’t that just cement the fact that we are already insanely young and we have guys who are projects? Why immediately rule out someone who could have an immediate impact and help scoot just because they’re older?
 
Natebishop3 said:
Wouldn’t that just cement the fact that we are already insanely young and we have guys who are projects? Why immediately rule out someone who could have an immediate impact and help scoot just because they’re older?
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I'm fine getting upper classmen rookie role players who could contribute next season, we did that with Camera last year. If it was an upper classman with 3&D potential, or physical size, or athleticism that might allow higher upside then yes I'd consider it. At least Camera and Murray have NBA sized bodies and higher defensive potential.

Even further back at #23 last year Murray was too high and look what a waste that was - using the #7 pick on Knecht with lower two way upside? No thanks.
 
Natebishop3 said:
Wouldn’t that just cement the fact that we are already insanely young and we have guys who are projects? Why immediately rule out someone who could have an immediate impact and help scoot just because they’re older?
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We have Scoot and Sharpe who yes are young. Everyone else is for the most part irrelevant long term - or a backup at best. I'd send out Brogdon/Grant in trades and explore Ant/Ayton too. They can all help other teams now and give the Blazers assets better used at a later time. After that I'd sign 3 vet minimums that would give us all that vet experience needed in the locker room as yes I don't want a process 6ers squad with an immature locker room. Then play to win with everyone on the roster 100% of the time.

That age and experiences the team needs doesn't need to be tied up in vets with trade value elsewhere nor in wasting lottery picks on low ceiling prospects.
 
seems like ST is saying that Portland needs to swing for the fences at #7. High-risk/High-reward rather than settle. I'd agree with that
 
The 10 fastest shuttle runs:

  1. Dalton Knecht, Tennessee: 2.79 seconds
  2. Tristan da Silva, Colorado: 2.82 seconds
  3. Dillon Jones, Weber State: 2.82 seconds
  4. Ulrich Chomche, NBA Academy Africa: 2.84 seconds
  5. Tristen Newton, UConn: 2.84 seconds
  6. Payton Sandfort, Iowa: 2.84 seconds
  7. AJ Johnson, Illawarra Hawks (NBL): 2.87 seconds
  8. Jamal Shead, Houston: 2.87 seconds
  9. Ryan Dunn, Virginia: 2.88 seconds
  10. Matas Buzelis, G League Ignite: 2.9 seconds
 
I like Knecht for his scoring but his defense is average at best but he could become a Klay Thompson like player with his shooting. I would draft him at 7 but only if a couple other players were not there like a Castle he intrigues me as a replacement for Ant.
 
Pinwheel1 said:
The 10 fastest shuttle runs:

  1. Dalton Knecht, Tennessee: 2.79 seconds
  2. Tristan da Silva, Colorado: 2.82 seconds
  3. Dillon Jones, Weber State: 2.82 seconds
  4. Ulrich Chomche, NBA Academy Africa: 2.84 seconds
  5. Tristen Newton, UConn: 2.84 seconds
  6. Payton Sandfort, Iowa: 2.84 seconds
  7. AJ Johnson, Illawarra Hawks (NBL): 2.87 seconds
  8. Jamal Shead, Houston: 2.87 seconds
  9. Ryan Dunn, Virginia: 2.88 seconds
  10. Matas Buzelis, G League Ignite: 2.9 seconds
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he also had the 2nd fastest lane agility time
 
wizenheimer said:
when you think about, could a dead eye shooter hit anything?
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Rastapopoulos said:
Smaller than STEPHON CASTLE
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I don't know about smaller, but close enough to make your point.
NBA Draft Combine Measurements for Stephon Castle: 6'5.5" w/o shoes, 210 lbs, 6'9" wingspan and 8'6" standing reach.

If Castle improves his shot he could play 3 positions for Portland.
But right now Knecht is more athletic and has a commanding advantage as a shooter.
 
There's something different about Knecht. I like his game. He may be the guy that breaks the "He's too old" mold.

His D needs to improve for sure.
 
rotary111 said:
There's something different about Knecht. I like his game. He may be the guy that breaks the "He's too old" mold.

His D needs to improve for sure.
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As an old fan, I remember the old days. They were all around 22 (give or take a year) Bill Walton was 22. No one worried about it.
The only upside I see with the younger picks is there is the possibility for additional improvement in their body and their potential. The downside is they might never achieve that potential.

Knecht just turned 23. He would still have a solid 9-10 years in his prime as a shooter.
 
It's not just that Knecht is old... it is that he's only had one impressive year in college. Out of five.

Two years of Juco. One year at Northern Colorado where (at age 20) he averaged 8.9 ppg. He then shot up to 20.2 ppg in his fourth college year at Northern Colorado before having an excellent year at TN.

Is it a case of a late bloomer who keeps getting better? Or a case of a guy who's just older and more experienced and more physically mature? I don't know for certain, but it's probably a mixture of the two and so his stats just aren't as impressive to me, especially with his spotty college track record overall.
 
Pinwheel1 said:
As an old fan, I remember the old days. They were all around 22 (give or take a year) Bill Walton was 22. No one worried about it.
The only upside I see with the younger picks is there is the possibility for additional improvement in their body and their potential. The downside is they might never achieve that potential.

Knecht just turned 23. He would still have a solid 9-10 years in his prime as a shooter.
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that's definitely the case. Rookie ages:

Bird 23
McHale 23
Kareem 22
Hakeem 22
David Robinson 24
Curry 21
Mychal Thompson 24
Jerome Kersey 22
Dominique Wilkins 23
Alex English 23
Manu 25

something else is that with rookie scale, teams control a player for a minimum of 7 years (usually 8 or 9). For many of these 19 year old guys, at least a couple of years of that control is spent on project development. If a player comes in NBA ready, the team may get a full 7 years of higher level impact

Obviously if you're drafting some 23 year olds like Camara of Kris Murray, there may be a ceiling on upside. But for somebody like Knecht?
 
Ed O said:
It's not just that Knecht is old... it is that he's only had one impressive year in college. Out of five.

Two years of Juco. One year at Northern Colorado where (at age 20) he averaged 8.9 ppg. He then shot up to 20.2 ppg in his fourth college year at Northern Colorado before having an excellent year at TN.

Is it a case of a late bloomer who keeps getting better? Or a case of a guy who's just older and more experienced and more physically mature? I don't know for certain, but it's probably a mixture of the two and so his stats just aren't as impressive to me, especially with his spotty college track record overall.
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sure, that's a fair gauge. At the same time though is that he DID have a significant improvement in production and impact without noticeably reducing his efficiency:

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there is value in using a pick as high as 7 on a player that has a 2 year record of good production. Especially in a lower-upside draft class
 
wizenheimer said:
seems like ST is saying that Portland needs to swing for the fences at #7. High-risk/High-reward rather than settle. I'd agree with that
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Doesn't have to be just swinging for the fences though, I'm find with someone who has limits to their upside but young enough to have some real upside.

Knecht would be like trying to bunt instead of swinging for a double.
 
Pinwheel1 said:
As an old fan, I remember the old days. They were all around 22 (give or take a year) Bill Walton was 22. No one worried about it.
The only upside I see with the younger picks is there is the possibility for additional improvement in their body and their potential. The downside is they might never achieve that potential.

Knecht just turned 23. He would still have a solid 9-10 years in his prime as a shooter.
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Duncan was old too 4 year guy too but he was winning titles and dominating in college. Same as Walton. These 22 year old seniors weren't close to that level.

It's not about how long his NBA career will be - its that a 22 year old doesn't improve as much in the NBA as an 18 year old. Knecht first two years he was down at junior college and now he finished as an old 5th year senior.
 
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