All Things ….Embiid?

[C_note]

I don't remember the dynamics around Butler leaving, but Simmons was clearly not the guy, and Harden, although he claims to want to win, is too fat and pre-occupied with partying to actually put in work.
So you could argue Embiid has never had a true superstar teammate aside from Butler.
They basically almost won it at vs the Raptors, but went down on that ridiculous Kawhi shot.

So give Dame a chance with Embiid if he's available.

 

[Whyachi]

Embiid, Brunson, Hart, Randle.

the Knicks got something cooking

 

[GoBlazersGo]

Embiid, Brunson, Hart, Randle.

the Knicks got something cooking

Huh… the Knicks!?

 

[tykendo]

I don't think you let Scoot go, even for Embiid. Shaedon I would include. That said, Embiid would never want to come here.
Embiid has had tremendous supporting casts and can't get over the hump. Simmons wanted out, Butler...out, and now Harden wants out. What is the common denominator? He knows the pressure is on now that Jokic got a title last year.

Harden to Clips starts the roll. Time for Morey to restart the process.

 

[illmatic99]

I don't think you let Scoot go, even for Embiid.

Dame/Thybulle/Grant/Embiid is an immediate contender. Perhaps even a favorite in the west right next to Phoenix and Denver.

We would have a legit TITLE window for around 3 yrs. In three years, the Scoot led Blazers might go .500.

 

[Whyachi]

Huh… the Knicks!?

yaaa, I guess Embiid was quoted yesterday saying he wants to win a championship someday, and doesn't care what team he's on to get a ring. So the NYC media jumped onto the web and yelled "first !".

 

[Idog1976]

Dame/Thybulle/Grant/Embiid is an immediate contender. Perhaps even a favorite in the west right next to Phoenix and Denver.

We would have a legit TITLE window for around 3 yrs. In three years, the Scoot led Blazers might go .500.

I’d trade Scoot and Simons but NOT Sharpe for Embiid. Sharpe plays at a position of need and has the highest ceiling of the three by a mile. Scoot has a better attitude but Sharpe has a MUCH higher cwiling. Scoot may become a star or even lower tier Superstar. Sharpe could be a top 3-5 player in the League if it all clicks.

 

[HoopsFanAZ]

Embiid at 29 with ZERO 70-game regular seasons out of 7 played and 2 missed. 2 51-gamers and a 31. 53 total playoff games in 6 years … and he’s an MVP who hasn’t risen in the playoffs.
That clock is ticking. Embiid just sent a message to Morey AND is just starting a 4-year extension!

Are Tobias Harris (31) and Maxey (23) enough if they get back decent players from the Clippers — Powell (30) and Covington (33) for Harden?

Is this a 1 or 2 season go for it by Morey then tear it down to build around Maxey?

 

[GoBlazersGo]

yaaa, I guess Embiid was quoted yesterday saying he wants to win a championship someday, and doesn't care what team he's on to get a ring. So the NYC media jumped onto the web and yelled "first !".

Ahhh, I see… typical New Yorker take! Thanks for the explanation, I hadn’t seen that.

 

[Predator]

I don't think you let Scoot go, even for Embiid. Shaedon I would include. That said, Embiid would never want to come here.
Embiid has had tremendous supporting casts and can't get over the hump. Simmons wanted out, Butler...out, and now Harden wants out. What is the common denominator? He knows the pressure is on now that Jokic got a title last year.

Unbelievable.

Wouldn’t trade an unknown rookie for the MVP and perennial MVP contender?

This is why I was taking a break from this place.

Back to vacation I go.

 

[Natebishop3]

Unbelievable.

Wouldn’t trade an unknown rookie for the MVP and perennial MVP contender?

This is why I was taking a break from this place.

Back to vacation I go.

You're gonna be real fun this season, eh?

You didn't want Scoot and now you're going to be debbie downer about anything he does?

 

[blazerfan11]

Ya who wants an MVP in his prime

Embiid wasn't the real MVP.
That is very clear.

 

[blazerfan11]

Hurts pretty bad to offer a Scoot/Sharpe package.

Might have to do that if you're Portland though. Opportunities like this never come to the PNW.

My stipulation would be NOT including future unprotected picks/swaps.
Sure, offer a bunch of protected picks. If this thing were to blow up (highly likely), at worst it sets us back 3-4 years of a rebuild.

With no picks? We're fucked.

Nobody can know how many years it would set the team back. A Scoot Henderson or Damian Lillard aren't available in every draft, and only one team gets that player.

 

[maxiep]

Embiid wasn't the real MVP.
That is very clear.

It was Herro...right?

 

[blazerfan11]

It was Herro...right?

If Herro were the Finals MVP, sure.

 

[inconceivable]

It was Herro...right?

You must be Joking

 

[maxiep]

You must be Joking

I think you're the one who is joking! I have heard from the Miami media that Tyler Herro is one of the greatest basketball players who has ever lived. We're so lucky the Heat are offering him in a trade.

 

[HoopsFanAZ]

Like the Blazers heading into the draft, the 76ers don’t have extra value players to trade … except Harden and they need to get that right … but with his expiring contract, he has some leverage.

In a theoretical, not-happening-trade …
Contracts and talent to Philly …

Nurkic + Simons + Scoot = Embiid (age + games missed + not rising in playoffs as negatives … otherwise, an MVP)
Nurk and Simons are both dollars and Simons + Maxey is some serious shooting. Scoot is talent. A couple picks go to the 76ers.

Lillard, Sharpe, Thybulle, Grant, Embiid — a contender
Walker, Murray, Rupert, Reath, Keon … spend that exception $8 million and tax-MLE on the bench.

IMHO, this is serious — not a thing to wait on for Morey. Waiting until next year’s free agency is risking wasting a year of Embiid and him demanding a trade. Durant out. Harden wants out … AGAIN … Dame wants out. The timing of this for Embiid is a right now issue.

 

[Cugel]

That is not a contender imho. Zero and I mean zero bench. Embiid goes down , and he will, you are in big big trouble

 

[Predator]

You're gonna be real fun this season, eh?

You didn't want Scoot and now you're going to be debbie downer about anything he does?

Where was I a Debbie downer about Scoot in this post?

Saying “trading an unknown rookie for the defending MVP?”

Or… how about the summer league game thread where Scoot played? What did I post that was “debbie downer” in there? Find me something or kindly STFU

that’s right, I didn’t, so hop off my dick

 

[illmatic99]

Embiid wasn't the real MVP.
That is very clear.

Eh?

 

[1 Eye Jack]

That is not a contender imho. Zero and I mean zero bench. Embiid goes down , and he will, you are in big big trouble

that’s a pretty damn good team I agree but it’s not far off from being a contender. Couple of vets and you have legit shot at title.

 

[BigGameDamian]

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Who is this Fentress dipshit?

 

[Natebishop3]

What a moron...

In what world is this:

Herro
Jovic
Jaquez
Two picks

The same as:

Scoot
Sharpe
Murray
Nurkic
Little
Four firsts
Three swaps

 

[PtldPlatypus]

What a moron...

In what world is this:

Herro
Jovic
Jaquez
Two picks

The same as:

Scoot
Sharpe
Murray
Nurkic
Little
Four firsts
Three swaps

To be fair, Herro/Jovic/Jacquez/2picks is much less than what most Blazer fans want for Dame. And Dame is also not quite on the same level as Embiid.

 

[kjironman1]

I give Scoot, Nurk, Little and Murray with 3 picks in a heartbeat. Just would not let go of Sharpe.

 

[riverman]

I'd rather move Ant, Nurk, Little, Keon and 3 first round picks plus some second round picks. Keep the rookies Ant and Nurk and Little have some salary to help the deal.

 

[kjironman1]

I'd rather move Ant, Nurk, Little, Keon and 3 first round picks plus some second round picks. Keep the rookies Ant and Nurk and Little have some salary to help the deal.

Okay. That works too.

 

[Cugel]

Fentress is a fucking dick and not a real Blazers fan. He is basically saying POR is asking too much from MIA. He is Dame's mouthpiece.