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Scalma said:
I saw that too lol. My first guess was he was playing against McCollum online.

But seriously, Portland embraces off center personalities like Whiteside and I also agree that he would fit in better with our younger players than in Miami. Miami says he's priority number one but didn't they bench him numerous times last season? Wade also has that old school Kobe style leadership where it's respect your elders. That can get tired. Future looks brighter in Portland, and they can offer the max without sacrificing anyone
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His personality reminds me of Shaq.
 
Nate said:
The video game post was obviously a joke. But right before the video of him playing 2k, he posted a video where he said "I'm a business man, that plays basketball"

This hints at what most people think. Miami can't pay him the max, and he's not taking any less than that. If we offer him a max contract, why would he not come here?

Only way I see him signing somewhere else, is if NY or LA offers a max.
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Miami can pay him the max, and can still keep Wade and Tyler Johnson too, as long as Wade is still willing to take the $50M/3y that he wanted last summer.
 
PtldPlatypus said:
Miami can pay him the max, and can still keep Wade and Tyler Johnson too, as long as Wade is still willing to take the $50M/3y that he wanted last summer.
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They have 54 million in capholds so its going to be interesting to see what they try and do. I think they do what they did with Bosh. Whiteside will get an offer that is similiar to Miamis and use that offer to leverage a 5y max deal from Miami.
 
Scalma said:
I saw that too lol. My first guess was he was playing against McCollum online.
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That was my thought as well...good call. Now if only CJ would confirm that.

Somewhere I read that Wade might be willing to take a 3-year deal for $50M. So ~$16M a year plus raises to take him through age 38. That roster doesn't exactly excite me even if Miami Beach does.
 
PtldPlatypus said:
Miami can pay him the max, and can still keep Wade and Tyler Johnson too, as long as Wade is still willing to take the $50M/3y that he wanted last summer.
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I didn't think he would be willing to do that.
 
PtldPlatypus said:
If he was willing to do it last summer, why not now?
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I didn't realize the deal fell through because Miami didn't want to give him a long term contract, I thought it fell through because it was only for 16-17 million.

I just knew he made 20 million this last year, and didn't think he would want to be the 3rd or 4th highest paid player on his team, again.
 
Apparently, he will have 4 suitors, and I don't think that includes Miami. As a Blazer fan, it is really the first time where it is logical - from a basketball POV - for a top tier FA to join the blazers.

HOWEVER, I don't really know much about him off the court. LA, NY, PDX, Miami, Dallas all have different advantages and disadvantages. The major disadvantages of PDX is weather, taxes, travel, and general hipness (as far as a young NBA basketball player is concerned). How important are these things to him? No idea. We'll see.
 
When we don't get him, what's next?
(Incidentally, supposedly the Wiz are offering JOAKIM NOAH a $112-120M 4 year contract! I like Noah... but not THAT much! Not after his injuries.)
 
The more I think about it and the more I am warming to the idea of going all-in to Hassan Whiteside. Reason #1, to me, is that at 12.01, there will be teams that will waste time in calling Durant or even Horford. By going this route, it could be a little less crowded and could give the right signal to HW: "You are our top priority". With "only" 22M as max salary, it allows us to get another free agent. By renouncing Henderson, Leonard, Kaman and Roberts and keeping Harkless and Crabbe we have almost 15M to lure someone else in a 94M salary cap.

Let's say we give those 15M to Ryan Anderson. A starting 5 of Lillard - CJ - Aminu - Anderson- Whiteside and a second unit of XXX - Crabbe - Harkless - Davis - Plumlee really intrigues me. And there will be possibilites to trade one of the bigs sometime during the season.
 
SwissBlazer said:
The more I think about it and the more I am warming to the idea of going all-in to Hassan Whiteside. Reason #1, to me, is that at 12.01, there will be teams that will waste time in calling Durant or even Horford. By going this route, it could be a little less crowded and could give the right signal to HW: "You are our top priority". With "only" 22M as max salary, it allows us to get another free agent. By renouncing Henderson, Leonard, Kaman and Roberts and keeping Harkless and Crabbe we have almost 15M to lure someone else in a 94M salary cap.

Let's say we give those 15M to Ryan Anderson. A starting 5 of Lillard - CJ - Aminu - Anderson- Whiteside and a second unit of XXX - Crabbe - Harkless - Davis - Plumlee really intrigues me. And there will be possibilites to trade one of the bigs sometime during the season.
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If you use this cap space calculator ; I think you'll find that even after dumping those four and Montero and Alexander, that we would only have $9 million to spend; I'm not sure there is anyone more interesting than Leonard in that price range? I do agree with you about going all in on Whiteside,
 
Whiteside said he is a businessman first, bball player second. So kiss our chances goodbye. If LA offers him a max as suggested, a businessman chooses LA everytime over Portland.

Time to start focusing on Howard.
 
JfizzleBlazer said:
Whiteside said he is a businessman first, bball player second. So kiss our chances goodbye. If LA offers him a max as suggested, a businessman chooses LA everytime over Portland.

Time to start focusing on Howard.
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Guess that's why Paul Allen and Bill Gates own the Laker and Clippers and live in Hollywood?
 
Any basketball player that wants to build a brand could do worse than to follow Lillard's path...I'd say Lillard is a pretty savvy businessman and Adidas is a pretty big company
 
riverman said:
Guess that's why Paul Allen and Bill Gates own the Laker and Clippers and live in Hollywood?
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Yes because hassan whiteside and bill gates or paul allen equal the same thing.

Commercials at mcgloughlin auto, or much higher scale commercials in the la market?

And whiteside does not equal lillard so dont give me that shit.

The fact is, he will make a lot more money through endorsements in la. Thats just the way it is and indisputable.
 
riverman said:
Any basketball player that wants to build a brand could do worse than to follow Lillard's path...I'd say Lillard is a pretty savvy businessman and Adidas is a pretty big company
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Lillard does not equal whiteside.

Lillard is one of a kind. His endorsements would explode even more if he was in LA too though.
 
JfizzleBlazer said:
Whiteside said he is a businessman first, bball player second. So kiss our chances goodbye. If LA offers him a max as suggested, a businessman chooses LA everytime over Portland.

Time to start focusing on Howard.
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Even the LA media, who used to emphasize that with every possible FA....now admits that the larger market factor..... no longer matters. There are other advantages to LA, but all he needs to do is look at Damian in regards to being successful in building a brand in a small market.

If money is the main objective, states with no income tax is a bigger factor. So why not stay in Miami? I do agree that if LA offers the max they could sway him...but if he thinks he will make more money there he will be wrong. (Cost of living is not cheaper)
 
Pinwheel1 said:
Even the LA media, who used to emphasize that with every possible FA....now admits that the larger market factor..... no longer matters. There are other advantages to LA, but all he needs to do is look at Damian in regards to being successful in building a brand in a small market.

If money is the main objective, states with no income tax is a bigger factor. So why not stay in Miami? I do agree that if LA offers the max they could sway him...but if he thinks he will make more money there he will be wrong. (Cost of living is not cheaper)
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There is a pretty sizeable sales tax here in Florida though. Just thought I would throw that out there.
 
Pinwheel1 said:
Even the LA media, who used to emphasize that with every possible FA....now admits that the larger market factor..... no longer matters. There are other advantages to LA, but all he needs to do is look at Damian in regards to being successful in building a brand in a small market.

If money is the main objective, states with no income tax is a bigger factor. So why not stay in Miami? I do agree that if LA offers the max they could sway him...but if he thinks he will make more money there he will be wrong. (Cost of living is not cheaper)
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Oh really? Is that why derozan reports say he would make 3 times as much in endorsements in LA than he is making in toronto now?

Also, the tax shit is so overblown amongst you guys.

Just because he plays in LA, does not necessarily mean he is a resident of LA. Cali would only be able to tax the income that has nexus to the state.
 
JfizzleBlazer said:
Oh really? Is that why derozan reports say he would make 3 times as much in endorsements in LA than he is making in toronto now?.
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Am I supposed to believe DeRosan? Nobody believes that anymore. Maybe it is a Canada thing.....

Here is one of many articles on the subject: http://www.thedailygopher.com/2012/7/26/2228977/does-city-really-matter-for-athlete-endorsements

Do you think Nike cares where Lebron plays? They are still giving him max dollars. We live in a digital age.

Where exactly are the extra endorsements coming from? I live in Los Angeles and I never see any of the current Lakers being promoted on TV. If they are, it is small potatoes. Whiteside does not have the personalty to sell anything. DeRosan might because guards and wings get better shoe deals than centers.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/inside-the-sneaker-industry--how-nba-shoe-deals-work-032155839.html
 
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