...and here's the slippery slope

[PapaG]

I know you'd be happy with slavery again if 80% of the people want it.

Those 80% can go pound sand.

The constitution protects the right of a minority against the tyrannical majority.

And yes, it is tyranny.

LOL

Do you pause before you hit the POST button to even doubt how dumb some of your posts end up being on this board?

 

[PapaG]

Maxiep

Your religious friends think we should ban drinking, adopt Jesus as our savior, teach creationism in school, etc.

Fuck em.

LOL

Go outside and get some fresh air.

 

[Denny Crane]

LOL

Do you pause before you hit the POST button to even doubt how dumb some of your posts end up being on this board?

You haven't read his other posts. Like owning LMA as a slave. Ooooooookayyyyyy

 

[PapaG]

Governments can't discriminate.

What????

LMAO at this thread. Germany circa 1936 says hello. I won't accept your semantic argument that individuals aren't government, either. Hitler was elected by Germans, and used the power of the government to discriminate against people

What a stupid fucking post.

 

[Denny Crane]

LOL

Go outside and get some fresh air.

Um. No. You.

 

[PapaG]

You haven't read his other posts. Like owning LMA as a slave. Ooooooookayyyyyy

maxiep is ridiculous, too. It's like watching two people at a sanitarium argue about who is the most sane.

 

[PapaG]

Are you really trying to say that no religious people want to ban drinking? Because some most obviously do. What is your point exactly?

Denny is winning every point, but you're just an ignorant oldfool, so you don't even notice. There's no point discussing things with people like you. (and most religious people for that matter)

The world is a scary place. At some point you'll need to grow up and stop attending drug-infused music festivals if you want people to take you seriously as an adult. I'm sure you're a nice kid, but come on now.

 

[VanillaGorilla]

The world is a scary place. At some point you'll need to grow up and stop attending drug-infused music festivals if you want people to take you seriously as an adult. I'm sure you're a nice kid, but come on now.

What exactly does that have to do with this thread or anything in my post?

I understand your hostility though, you're just jealous you can't go to drug-infused music festivals. Darn wife and kids!

 

[PapaG]

What exactly does that have to do with this thread or anything in my post?

I understand your hostility though, you're just jealous you can't go to drug-infused music festivals. Darn wife and kids!

Come on, just relax. There are people out there who don't think like you do. Who cares?

 

[MarAzul]

What exactly does that have to do with this thread or anything in my post?

I understand your hostility though, you're just jealous you can't go to drug-infused music festivals. Darn wife and kids!

Ha! If you are fortunate and survive long enough, you too may come to realize you don't need to go to a drug infuse festival. Live can be good, heh heh.

 

[magnifier661]

It's pretty obvious that some religious people want to ban drinking. Trying to make Denny prove that over and over is just fucking ridiculous.

Unless you think no religious people want to band drinking, or other things, there's absolutely no point to what you're saying.

It was the intent. There are some white people that would love to kill black people and vice versa. Does that mean they all do? That's the intent I got from Denny. It was this "your Christian friends do this so you all do this!" Type hyperbole.

 

[VanillaGorilla]

Come on, just relax. There are people out there who don't think like you do. Who cares?

You looooove going after people and then telling them to relax or calm down after they respond, don't you?

Too bad I didn't actually get upset.

 

[VanillaGorilla]

It was the intent. There are some white people that would love to kill black people and vice versa. Does that mean they all do? That's the intent I got from Denny. It was this "your Christian friends do this so you all do this!" Type hyperbole.

I don't think that's what he was going for, but if it was, that's ridiculous.

 

[VanillaGorilla]

Ha! If you are fortunate and survive long enough, you too may come to realize you don't need to go to a drug infuse festival. Live can be good, heh heh.

I don't need music or drugs, I just happen to like them!

So if it's not a drug addled mind that makes you type like you do, what is it? Old age? Not a native English speaker? Some other type of handicap?

 

[magnifier661]

I don't think that's what he was going for, but if it was, that's ridiculous.

That's what I got out of it. He tried backpedalling after he was called out

 

[magnifier661]

I don't need music or drugs, I just happen to like them!

So if it's not a drug addled mind that makes you type like you, what is it? Old? Not a native English speaker? Some other type of handicap?

I like them too!!!!

 

[MarAzul]

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/marriage

a (1) : the state of being united to a person of the opposite sex as husband or wife in a consensual and contractual relationship recognized by law (2) : the state of being united to a person of the same sex in a relationship like that of a traditional marriage
b : the mutual relation of married persons : wedlock
c : the institution whereby individuals are joined in a marriage


(2), b, and c for the win.

What year did they change that dictionary Denny? You know it was changed, heh? Like the word Gay changed to cover the homosexual, then marriage in Websters. Will Burton's and Oxford follow or was Webster premature?
Will Cousins be granted equal protection too? Why not? Surely you can't let prohibitions in the Bible or the Koran keep them from equal protection, heh? Then there is the Pervert Dad and the Daughter just in dire need of your sense of equal protection! Let the many religious bigots pound sand the Denny way. How did Denny come by this equality compass? A sense of equality superior to all moral teachings in the history of mankind.
How did we become bless with such insight for our all knowing moderator???

 

[maxiep]

Separate and unequal.

Marriage for all.

It's going to end up that way. May as well get used to the idea.

I'm unclear on your concept. By definition, a Mormon sealing is unequal from a Catholic ceremony. I pledged to my wife "Till death do us part". A Mormon ceremony ensures those people are together, even after they pass.

In a civil ceremony, people can get divorced at any time with no bias from the government. In Catholicism, if you get divorced, you can't get remarried in the Church. That's not equal.

I get the point you're trying to make, but it's nonsensical. You're attempting to create an equality of outcome. My point is that the government cannot discriminate. Right now, that's what they're doing every day they deny people who wish to join equal rights to do so. The government serves to provide people who wish to join their lives a legal framework to do so. A religion serves to provide people who wish to join their lives together a spiritual framework. They each serve a separate and distinct purpose. So...separate the legal from the spiritual.

A government must not only support the majority view, but also respect and defend the rights of the minority. It represents the temporal only; it shouldn't shove those beliefs down the throat of people who find the concept of marriage as anything but one man and one woman offensive. What it should do is to treat everyone equally. That means providing survivor benefits to any couple or group, adoption rights to any couple or group, visitation rights to any couple or group and the ability to dissolve such a union when one or more parties wish it to end.

 

[maxiep]

What????

LMAO at this thread. Germany circa 1936 says hello. I won't accept your semantic argument that individuals aren't government, either. Hitler was elected by Germans, and used the power of the government to discriminate against people

What a stupid fucking post.

"Governments" in this case were meant to refer to local and state governments and the Federal government of the United States of America, not anyone else's. Thanks for the Hitler reference, though. I don't have one entire side of my family because of that regime, so I'm pretty aware they treated my kind differently than the Aryans.

We as Americans are all entitled to equal protection under the law. Right now, we're not receiving it. My prescription is to separate the legal from the spiritual. Everyone who is a consenting adult can get a civil union. If you wish to add a spiritual dimension and can find a faith to marry you, then you have a marriage.

In the eyes of the law, everyone would have equal rights. However, not everyone would have equal rights under the spiritual realm.

 

[maxiep]

maxiep is ridiculous, too. It's like watching two people at a sanitarium argue about who is the most sane.

Wait. Where did I say we owned Aldridge like a slave? I don't really care what you think of my posts, but I do care that others portray my ideas and thoughts accurately. Otherwise, it's just trolling.

 

[PapaG]

Wait. Where did I say we owned Aldridge like a slave? I don't really care what you think of my posts, but I do care that others portray my ideas and thoughts accurately. Otherwise, it's just trolling.

Sorry if I misrepresented you. Denny seems to be borderline insane these days, and I made the mistake of taking his interpretation as being factual.

My bad.

 

[MarAzul]

I like this bit from John. 4
Jesus and the woman at the well

John|4:16 Jesus saith unto her, Go, call thy husband, and come hither.

John|4:17 The woman answered and said, I have no husband. Jesus said unto her, Thou

hast well said, I have no husband:

John|4:18 For thou hast had five husbands; and he whom thou now hast is not thy husband:

in that saidst thou truly.

John|4:19 The woman saith unto him, Sir, I perceive that thou art a prophet.



You see marriage is the blessing ceremony preformed in the eyes of god. The womans man was her common law partner. Not truly a husband given to her in marriage in the eyes of god.

So why attempt to steal the word, you can't achieve the meaning in the eyes of god.

 

[KingSpeed]

Gay couples can't even have children.

Yes we can

 

[KingSpeed]

Can someone give me a compelling argument why any level of Government should be involved in marriage instead of civil unions?

Because you didn't take this stance until gays wanted to get married.

 

[KingSpeed]

I hereby renounce my right to government sponsored marriage, and endorse my government sponsored civil union. I do NOT renounce my Catholic marriage, however.

Satisfied?

That's the long way of saying you're against gays getting married.

 

[Denny Crane]

What year did they change that dictionary Denny? You know it was changed, heh? Like the word Gay changed to cover the homosexual, then marriage in Websters. Will Burton's and Oxford follow or was Webster premature?
Will Cousins be granted equal protection too? Why not? Surely you can't let prohibitions in the Bible or the Koran keep them from equal protection, heh? Then there is the Pervert Dad and the Daughter just in dire need of your sense of equal protection! Let the many religious bigots pound sand the Denny way. How did Denny come by this equality compass? A sense of equality superior to all moral teachings in the history of mankind.
How did we become bless with such insight for our all knowing moderator???

Why did you skip merriam webster? It was the first link in the google search results for "marriage definition."

Didn't suit your needs.

Well done.

 

[Denny Crane]

Wait. Where did I say we owned Aldridge like a slave? I don't really care what you think of my posts, but I do care that others portray my ideas and thoughts accurately. Otherwise, it's just trolling.

You didn't. MarAzul did. PapaG can't read.

 

[Denny Crane]

I'm unclear on your concept. By definition, a Mormon sealing is unequal from a Catholic ceremony. I pledged to my wife "Till death do us part". A Mormon ceremony ensures those people are together, even after they pass.

In a civil ceremony, people can get divorced at any time with no bias from the government. In Catholicism, if you get divorced, you can't get remarried in the Church. That's not equal.

I get the point you're trying to make, but it's nonsensical. You're attempting to create an equality of outcome. My point is that the government cannot discriminate. Right now, that's what they're doing every day they deny people who wish to join equal rights to do so. The government serves to provide people who wish to join their lives a legal framework to do so. A religion serves to provide people who wish to join their lives together a spiritual framework. They each serve a separate and distinct purpose. So...separate the legal from the spiritual.

A government must not only support the majority view, but also respect and defend the rights of the minority. It represents the temporal only; it shouldn't shove those beliefs down the throat of people who find the concept of marriage as anything but one man and one woman offensive. What it should do is to treat everyone equally. That means providing survivor benefits to any couple or group, adoption rights to any couple or group, visitation rights to any couple or group and the ability to dissolve such a union when one or more parties wish it to end.

Like I said. Those religions can do whatever they want. The government hands out marriage licenses and marries people. Let them do their job.

Under your scheme, am I supposed to bring my marriage license in to some govt. office to have it replaced with something else?

 

[Denny Crane]

I like them too!!!!

Do they ever wear off for you?

 

[Denny Crane]

It was the intent. There are some white people that would love to kill black people and vice versa. Does that mean they all do? That's the intent I got from Denny. It was this "your Christian friends do this so you all do this!" Type hyperbole.

WTF? S T R A W M A N