Anfernee Simons is unbelievable

[MickZagger]

He very much makes Lillard expendable so we can balance out this roster. Lillard very much is who he is at this point. Great player, limited time at peak level of play and he doesn’t really fit in with Billups vision of what he wants his teams to do.

 

[Natebishop3]

no we have to trade one of them because dame and CJ didn’t work under Stotts or something.

Name the last time that two undersized guards as your best players has worked for a team.

 

[Scalma]

He very much makes Lillard expendable so we can balance out this roster. Lillard very much is who he is at this point. Great player, limited time at peak level of play and he doesn’t really fit in with Billups vision of what he wants his teams to do.

Talk less please.

 

[Wade Garrett]

Name the last time that two undersized guards as your best players has worked for a team.

Walt Frazier and Earl Monroe, 1973 NY Knicks.

 

[OneSport3]

Name the last time that two undersized guards as your best players has worked for a team.

Isiah Thomas/Joe Dumars

 

[MickZagger]

Talk less please.

It’s called typing, snatch.

Undersized, below average defensive back courts won’t take you far in the playoffs.

If it’s too hard for you to understand that, maybe you shouldn’t post anymore.

 

[blazerkor]

Talk less please.

You need to fucking talk less if you're going to treat people like shit all of the time. What the fuck dude?

 

[Natebishop3]

Walt Frazier and Earl Monroe, 1973 NY Knicks.

Isiah Thomas/Joe Dumars

Exactly. 30+ years ago.

 

[BigGameDamian]

It's time for Dame to ride off into the sunset. This should be Ant's team.

The trade return for Dame would definitely be HUGE!

 

[Strenuus]

no we have to trade one of them because dame and CJ didn’t work under Stotts or something.

Lmao I thought about that for a few second but then realized Ant brings playmaking and he wins by default lol

 

[Strenuus]

The trade return for Dame would definitely be HUGE!

Like I said. It'd be incredibly stupid to trade dame without him playing with this iteration of the team.

 

[OneSport3]

Exactly. 30+ years ago.

How is length of time relevant? They have the proof of concept. It worked for them, it works for us now.

 

[Strenuus]

He very much makes Lillard expendable so we can balance out this roster. Lillard very much is who he is at this point. Great player, limited time at peak level of play and he doesn’t really fit in with Billups vision of what he wants his teams to do.

I'll disagree until we see him play with these players with this vision. A lot can be said for watching from the outside, without the noise and distractions, and seeing the change from afar, then coming back focused on the new plan and vision.

Can't trade him before we see him with all this. Until then, it makes no sense.

 

[sheed30]

Like I said. It'd be incredibly stupid to trade dame without him playing with this iteration of the team.

Just look at the posters who are suggesting this, are you surprised? It would be very dumb indeed.

 

[PCmor7]

I'll disagree until we see him play with these players with this vision. A lot can be said for watching from the outside, without the noise and distractions, and seeing the change from afar, then coming back focused on the new plan and vision.

Can't trade him before we see him with all this. Until then, it makes no sense.

To piggyback on this, there's no need to trade him until we see it, either. I'm pretty confident he's going to adjust and be even better in this system with these teammates, but there's no reason to rush to deal him by presuming it's not going to be a fit.

 

[Natebishop3]

How is length of time relevant? They have the proof of concept. It worked for them, it works for us now.

Do you honestly think the NBA is the same as it was 30 years ago?

 

[illmatic99]

the way he moves, how he's reading defenses, the decision making, the shot repertoire, the poise.... it's Dame redux.

goddamn we got two of em!

 

[MickZagger]

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[OneSport3]

Do you honestly think the NBA is the same as it was 30 years ago?

No, it’s not. The fact that the Pistons were able to win 2 titles with their backcourt in the era and style of basketball that was played makes it more impressive.

The current style of play actually makes it more realistic for smaller guards to succeed.

 

[calvin natt]

I guess Neil was spot on about Simons.

 

[illmatic99]

I guess Neil was spot on about Simons.

and trent
and nas
and watford
and brown

 

[Scalma]

No, it’s not. The fact that the Pistons were able to win 2 titles with their backcourt in the era and style of basketball that was played makes it more impressive.

The current style of play actually makes it more realistic for smaller guards to succeed.

I bet I can name multiple teams with a 6’3 PG and a 6’4 SG. I mean there wasn’t anyone over 6’5 in either finals team’s backcourt last season.

 

[blazerfan11]

I guess Neil was spot on about Simons.

And he may have drafted another Jerome Kersey in Nassir Little.

 

[Natebishop3]

The current style of play actually makes it more realistic for smaller guards to succeed.

I don't know.... I think it's harder now. The rules make it much harder to defend perimeter players and there are so many explosive guards, especially at the point.

I think you're at a real disadvantage if you have two sub-par defenders who are undersized in your backcourt. This was proven time and time again with Dame and CJ..... but part of the problem with CJ was just piss poor effort on defense. He wasn't even trying.

 

[blazerfan11]

and trent
and nas
and watford
and brown

And CJ McCollum. He just couldn't let go of him to get what we needed.

 

[blazerfan11]

and trent
and nas
and watford
and brown

And Pat Connaughton.

 

[Natebishop3]

and trent
and nas
and watford
and brown

The guy was really good at finding undervalued players and diamonds in the rough. He was not a good free agency GM and his trades were very hit and miss. He had some good ones and he had some bad ones.

He whiffed pretty hard on Meyers and Collins. Also on Swanigan. But he was really good at drafting guards.

 

[MickZagger]

And Pat Connaughton.

He drafted DeAndre Jordan in the 2nd round

 

[MickZagger]

The guy was really good at finding undervalued players and diamonds in the rough. He was not a good free agency GM and his trades were very hit and miss. He had some good ones and he had some bad ones.

He whiffed pretty hard on Meyers and Collins. Also on Swanigan. But he was really good at drafting guards.

His biggest vice was not trading CJ while the iron was hot

 

[Idog1976]

You need to fucking talk less if you're going to treat people like shit all of the time. What the fuck dude?

Seriously. Literally the worst. Makes BJ look chill.