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BigGameDamian said:
The trade return for Dame would definitely be HUGE!
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No it wouldn't. Dame would go to a contender and contenders almost NEVER have assets. That's why Superstar trades are so insanely hard to pull off. The only guy I can think of that has done it more than once in modern times was Morey. One time he fleeced OKC for Harden (he looked like a star, but not a Superstar) and then next time he got fleeced by the Nets also for Harden.
 
MickZagger said:
His biggest vice was not trading CJ while the iron was hot
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Imagine having this right after the pelicans sweep. I mean, it wouldn't be this, but just that feeling of change back then.

I'd say the WCF run too but Neil wasn't gonna change shit after that, even though then it was clear too.
 
Natebishop3 said:
I don't know.... I think it's harder now. The rules make it much harder to defend perimeter players and there are so many explosive guards, especially at the point.

I think you're at a real disadvantage if you have two sub-par defenders who are undersized in your backcourt. This was proven time and time again with Dame and CJ..... but part of the problem with CJ was just piss poor effort on defense. He wasn't even trying.
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I don’t think length was the problem. It was effort, lack of awareness and lack of focus. It wasn’t like Dame and CJ were constantly being posted up by bigger guards. They couldn’t keep guys in front of them, not fighting through screens, falling asleep on rotations. These have nothing to do with length or height.

Ant actually shows potential of being an above average defender. When he was switched onto Ja tonight, he actually did a good job of keeping Ja in front of him. He’s also good at anticipating screens and fighting through them. He does miss rotations at times, but that will come with experience and coaching from Chauncey. That is actually the biggest x-factor: Ant will be coached by a defensive minded guard while Dame/CJ were taught by an offensive minded coach.
 
Strenuus said:
Imagine having this right after the pelicans sweep. I mean, it wouldn't be this, but just that feeling of change back then.

I'd say the WCF run too but Neil wasn't gonna change shit after that, even though then it was clear too.
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it was all ego. I remember quick saying Olshey would text him “TRADE CJ!” after every big game he had.
 
Natebishop3 said:
The guy was really good at finding undervalued players and diamonds in the rough. He was not a good free agency GM and his trades were very hit and miss. He had some good ones and he had some bad ones.

He whiffed pretty hard on Meyers and Collins. Also on Swanigan. But he was really good at drafting guards.
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Olshey's two biggest problems were being too attached to "his guys" and signing bonehead contracts.
 
Scalma said:
it was all ego. I remember quick saying Olshey would text him “TRADE CJ!” after every big game he had.
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I'm just gonna say this once. When you are just posting about your read on the game and nuggets you've found, you're one of the best posters on the board. When you are responding to people you disagree with you're freaking awful. Just state your piece and then when people disagree use your great basketball IQ to tell them why they are wrong without being a dick. You're legit an amazing commenter when you aren't responding to others with hate. I say this just because you and I have gotten into it and it seems you have with everyone on the board at some point. I actually really like your posts quite often, but I never want to give you a like because I watch the way you treat people. If you dialed that back, you'd probably be among the most beloved posters on the board.
 
Strenuus said:
Imagine having this right after the pelicans sweep. I mean, it wouldn't be this, but just that feeling of change back then.

I'd say the WCF run too but Neil wasn't gonna change shit after that, even though then it was clear too.
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After the bubble, when Trent had proven he was ready to step into CJ's role, was the perfect time to trade CJ for a 3/4.
 
Idog1976 said:
I'm just gonna say this once. When you are just posting about your read on the game and nuggets you've found, you're one of the best posters on the board. When you are responding to people you disagree with you're freaking awful. Just state your piece and then when people disagree use your great basketball IQ to tell them why they are wrong without being a dick. You're legit an amazing commenter when you aren't responding to others with hate. I say this just because you and I have gotten into it and it seems you have with everyone on the board at some point. I actually really like your posts quite often, but I never want to give you a like because I watch the way you treat people. If you dialed that back, you'd probably be among the most beloved posters on the board.
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Probably not. Dude is a bully in every sense. He can't dial it back. He can't take the heat either when people give it back to him. He just ends up blocking them.
 
I don't know how we got here but kind of working my way backwards... getting it right and then getting it wrong with Gary, Collins, Biggie, overpaying CJ and keeping his ass far too long, all of the inexplicably bad contracts, letting Aldridge walk for nothing, trading The Thrill for essentially nothing. Yeah he had way too many fuck ups to have a GM job for 9+ years. He did get us Ant though.
 
illmatic99 said:
Waiting for all the doubters to acknowledge. But you know they'll never cop to it.
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I'm coming around. As I said in another thread, I've discarded the idea that a Dame/Ant pairing would be a reboot of Dame/CJ. And I'd like to see what a Dame/Ant/Hart back court would do with a training camp and pre-season working Chauncey's systems
 
Natebishop3 said:
It's time for Dame to ride off into the sunset. This should be Ant's team.
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It's not any one mans team and Dame will fit in beautifully. Pace is the main difference and Dame can adjust to an uptempo game like the rest of them.
Did you hear Chaunceys post game interview and his comments about Dame? He's pumped and excited.
 
Well, we can't trade Dame until he passes Drexler on the scoring list
 
I cant remember where I saw it but think i found a comp for Simons as the SG next to Dame.

Zach LaVine. He's 6'5 with a 6'8 wingspan.
Ant is 6'4 with a 6'9 wingspan.

Lavine started getting to the line around his 5th yr. Think Ant can also do the same.
 
The question is not can they play together—it’s whether they can both be maximized to the fullest extent of their abilities playing together.

I want the answer to be yes. I think we all do. But at the end of the day they are both point guards that are at their best with the ball, making decisions, directing and being the primary point of attack.

I’m not sure.
 
Freshtown said:
The question is not can they play together—it’s whether they can both be maximized to the fullest extent of their abilities playing together.

I want the answer to be yes. I think we all do. But at the end of the day they are both point guards that are at their best with the ball, making decisions, directing and being the primary point of attack.

I’m not sure.
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When Ant hit 13 3's in a row last year he was not always playing PG. He was catching and shooting. I have confidence that they can play together but it will take some time. I am not sure Dame coming off a 3-month layoff will give us the true picture. I think we need to wait until next year after a full fall camp.
 
Part of me would like to see an Ant/Dame pairing. But, there is the possibility it won't work for all the reasons already discussed. Of even more concern is the numbers. Dame is gonna be hella expensive for years to come. These are the years when players are slowing down, not speeding up. Dame has nearly single handily carried the load for 10 years now. He's got to start slowing down, then factor in the money. He may not be the older vet this team needs, like Juwan Howard years back. This team seems to have a new identity of running and sharing the ball with defense mixed in. Nurk is starting to be utilized again. Have our new players been game planned? Not sure if other teams are just over looking us. Thoughts?
 
illmatic99 said:
I cant remember where I saw it but think i found a comp for Simons as the SG next to Dame.

Zach LaVine. He's 6'5 with a 6'8 wingspan.
Ant is 6'4 with a 6'9 wingspan.

Lavine started getting to the line around his 5th yr. Think Ant can also do the same.
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LaVine also a poor defender, so it tracks. I'm still very apprehensive on the Dame/Ant defensive pairing. In these games, Ant is the weakest defender out there by far but surrounding him with 4 other players that can guard multiple positions and be in the right place on defense has been able to hide his deficiencies (who would have thought?). I'm not going to sit here and hope Ant/Dame can significantly improve their defense, but if we can be like a top 3 offense and a top 12-ish defense I think we can still contend. There can be no other defensive liabilities in the rotation though.
 
Let's not forget that Nurk is a huge part of the 4 game win streak. We are relying on his offense quite a bit right now. What if he gets hurt?
Having Dame as an extra offensive weapon will be needed. We need the depth that Dame provides if Ant gets hurt as well.
 
B-Roy said:
LaVine also a poor defender, so it tracks. I'm still very apprehensive on the Dame/Ant defensive pairing. In these games, Ant is the weakest defender out there by far but surrounding him with 4 other players that can guard multiple positions and be in the right place on defense has been able to hide his deficiencies (who would have thought?). I'm not going to sit here and hope Ant/Dame can significantly improve their defense, but if we can be like a top 3 offense and a top 12-ish defense I think we can still contend. There can be no other defensive liabilities in the rotation though.
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Chicago mitigated any perimeter defensive issues by also bringing in Ball/Caruso and integrating them with LaVine in the rotation. They might have the best defensive guard rotation in the league when healthy. I think we have a start with Hart and maybe Nas/Winslow also being able to check guys outside. That game against BK was eye opening in how well Nas played Irving.
 
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