Angry Oregon separatists are looking for a way to become part of Idaho

[Rastapopoulos]

You should offer to swap them for Boise.

https://www.rawstory.com/greater-idaho-state/

 

[wizenheimer]

wrong forum...should be in OT

and if those fucking idiots want to live in Idaho, there are U-Haul trucks everywhere

 

[Rastapopoulos]

I think we should re-introduce the idea of territories. Let all the crazies have all the freedom and the guns they want and let us elect sane people at the federal level.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Oops - I meant to put this in OT - please move mods.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

wrong forum...should be in OT

and if those fucking idiots want to live in Idaho, there are U-Haul trucks everywhere

They want to live in Idaho without moving.

Hey, I want to live in Canada without moving - I wonder if I can get to do that too!

 

[wizenheimer]

They want to live in Idaho without moving.

yeah, I know what they want....that's why I called them fucking idiots

 

[donkiez]

I say let them go, those regions of Oregon are net losses on the states tax revenues. Let them be Idaho's burden if they can talk Idaho into it.

 

[Natebishop3]

I say let them go, those regions of Oregon are net losses on the states tax revenues. Let them be Idaho's burden if they can talk Idaho into it.

It would be funny if Oregon shrunk down to the size of Rhode Island.

 

[Orion Bailey]

More news on this.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

More news on this.

(i.e.: cooking meth)

 

[barfo]

meth and government subsidies. Pulling themselves up by their bootstraps, the way god intended.

barfo

 

[Minstrel]

If we allowed this, all rural areas would just become available to the highest bidder--whichever state was willing to give them the best anti-socialism handouts and subsidies.

It would be hell on the map-makers. No one ever considers the cartographers.

 

[Orion Bailey]

If we allowed this, all rural areas would just become available to the highest bidder--whichever state was willing to give them the best anti-socialism handouts and subsidies.

It would be hell on the map-makers. No one ever considers the cartographers.

how about the trucking industry?

yeah im delivering in the same state today.
Yeah? Where at?
5 states over….

 

[Lanny]

You should offer to swap them for Boise.

https://www.rawstory.com/greater-idaho-state/

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That would put almost all of them in the new state on welfare.

 

[donkiez]

If we allowed this, all rural areas would just become available to the highest bidder--whichever state was willing to give them the best anti-socialism handouts and subsidies.

It would be hell on the map-makers. No one ever considers the cartographers.

So like gerrymandering then?

 

[Minstrel]

So like gerrymandering then?

Yup, across the entire nation. Rural areas in the western, central and eastern US could all be part of Idaho. Or Mississippi.

 

[julius]

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(i.e.: cooking meth)

They should be careful for what they ask for.

The 5 (ish) counties that want to join Idaho? Their *total* population is bupkiss.

Malheur 30K people.

Sherman 1800

Grant 7300

Baker 17K

Lake 8K

That's about 65K people.

Throw in Harney (7300)

These guys are in for a shock when they wake up and realize that the tri county area (Mult, Clack and Washington) have 1.8 million people in it. That's 28X the population, and also means much more of the money for the state comes from us. So good luck with this.

Hell, Multnomah, Clackamas and Washington counties alone have more people in them than the ENTIRE state of Idaho.

Throw in Marion and Lane, and it's 2.6 million.

What exactly are they thinking they're gaining by doing this? They're just thinning the pot for Idaho, and making it better for the rest of the state of Oregon.

 

[donkiez]

They should be careful for what they ask for.

The 5 (ish) counties that want to join Idaho? Their *total* population is bupkiss.

Malheur 30K people.

Sherman 1800

Grant 7300

Baker 17K

Lake 8K

That's about 65K people.

Throw in Harney (7300)

These guys are in for a shock when they wake up and realize that the tri county area (Mult, Clack and Washington) have 1.8 million people in it. That's 28X the population, and also means much more of the money for the state comes from us. So good luck with this.

All my all town conservatives friends think the electoral college should be adopted on a state level.

 

[Lanny]

All my all town conservatives friends think the electoral college should be adopted on a state level.

Sure, one more nail in the coffin of one man one vote.

 

[julius]

All my all town conservatives friends think the electoral college should be adopted on a state level.

That's arguably the dumbest thing ever uttered.

They realize it's population based, right? So it wouldn't be a 1 to 1 county vs county thing (since it's not for the states/general election). It'd still be weighted in the favor of the more populous counties.

I.e., no, malhuer county shouldn't have the same voting power as Clackamas.

 

[barfo]

That's arguably the dumbest thing ever uttered.

They realize it's population based, right? So it wouldn't be a 1 to 1 county vs county thing (since it's not for the states/general election). It'd still be weighted in the favor of the more populous counties.

I.e., no, malhuer county shouldn't have the same voting power as Clackamas.

It would still help the small counties relative to popular vote, if the number of electoral votes total was small. Because even a tiny county would always get at least 1 electoral vote.

barfo

 

[twobullz]

They should be careful for what they ask for.

The 5 (ish) counties that want to join Idaho? Their *total* population is bupkiss.

Malheur 30K people.

Sherman 1800

Grant 7300

Baker 17K

Lake 8K

That's about 65K people.

Throw in Harney (7300)

These guys are in for a shock when they wake up and realize that the tri county area (Mult, Clack and Washington) have 1.8 million people in it. That's 28X the population, and also means much more of the money for the state comes from us. So good luck with this.

Hell, Multnomah, Clackamas and Washington counties alone have more people in them than the ENTIRE state of Idaho.

Throw in Marion and Lane, and it's 2.6 million.

What exactly are they thinking they're gaining by doing this? They're just thinning the pot for Idaho, and making it better for the rest of the state of Oregon.

I am going on record I am against this, tired of hearing about it. It is all over here in Central Oregon. But this is exactly why they are pushing this, no matter what Rural and Eastern Oregon does, they don't have as many people as the tri county area. The feeling is the state is managed for the mass populous and this side of the cascades has no say in how they are governed. They are never going to be happy unless a trump supporter gets in as governor of Oregon. They think since more land is over here they should have more vote, no matter that they are in the minority.

 

[Phatguysrule]

I am going on record I am against this, tired of hearing about it. It is all over here in Central Oregon. But this is exactly why they are pushing this, no matter what Rural and Eastern Oregon does, they don't have as many people as the tri county area. The feeling is the state is managed for the mass populous and this side of the cascades has no say in how they are governed. They are never going to be happy unless a trump supporter gets in as governor of Oregon. They think since more land is over here they should have more vote, no matter that they are in the minority.

Then they should pick up and move to Idaho. I wouldn't be so apprehensive about moving out there if it weren't for so many Trumpeting local yokals.

I get enough of that in Oregon City

 

[Hoopguru]

Whats wrong with Merging Eastern Washington & Oregon with Idaho and Montana. Same demographics, trading routes & principle industries and ways of life. They would be about as big as Oregon then in population too.
State boundaries are so out dated and don't make a lot of since anymore.

 

[twobullz]

Whats wrong with Merging Eastern Washington & Oregon with Idaho and Montana. Same demographics, trading routes & principle industries and ways of life. They would be about as big as Oregon then in population too.
State boundaries are so out dated and don't make a lot of since anymore.

So do away with Idaho and eastern washing and oregon and just make one big state? What benefit does that have to washington? Oregon? If people don't like they state they live in they are free to move, but a large majority of the people east of the cascades have ZERO interest in this.

 

[Phatguysrule]

Whats wrong with Merging Eastern Washington & Oregon with Idaho and Montana. Same demographics, trading routes & principle industries and ways of life. They would be about as big as Oregon then in population too.
State boundaries are so out dated and don't make a lot of since anymore.

Because I like having eastern Oregon be a part of the State. If they want to be in Idaho they should just move...

 

[Hoopguru]

So do away with Idaho and eastern washing and oregon and just make one big state? What benefit does that have to washington? Oregon? If people don't like they state they live in they are free to move, but a large majority of the people east of the cascades have ZERO interest in this.

No, dont do away with Idaho just merge E.OR&WA/Idaho and Montana as one new State. Strength in numbers as well as same principle industries, trading routes, and ways of life are similar. They have more in common than with major west coast cites as Seattle, Tacoma, Portland, Eugene and population would be closer to same with all those smaller regions consolidated. Consolidation is the name of the game now days.

 

[Hoopguru]

Because I like having eastern Oregon be a part of the State. If they want to be a in Idaho they should just move...

Why not just give them more freedom from the metropolitan way and allow them to couple up with regions more like each other.
Western Oregon doesn't need the eastern regions to prosper.

 

[twobullz]

No, dont do away with Idaho just merge E.OR&WA/Idaho and Montana as one new State. Strength in numbers as well as same principle industries, trading routes, and ways of life are similar. They have more in common than with major west coast cites as Seattle, Tacoma, Portland, Eugene and population would be closer to same with all those smaller regions consolidated. Consolidation is the name of the game now days.

So Boise should be part of Oregon and Eastern Oregon should be part of Montana. Consolidate all the Metro areas in the Country into one state and all rural into another and just have two states? Or just need to rearrange a lot of blue states to give more congressional districts to red states?

 

[Hoopguru]

Because I like having eastern Oregon be a part of the State. If they want to be a in Idaho they should just move...

Why so? what is it you like about that area? Hundting/Fishing/Ranching/Farming/politics? or just the scenery?
Ive spent time in many Stats and Cities and I can tell you Spokane, Tri Cites, The Dalles, Pendleton, Baker, McCall, Boise/Pocatello, Missoula, Helena, Bozeman & Whitefish have a lot more in common with each other than Seattle, Bellevue, Tacoma, Olympia, Vancouver, Portland, Salem, & Eugene.