Notice Does Oregon Business climate factor in Business's staying here? (1 Viewer)

[Hoopguru]

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://www.wweek.com/news/business/2025/06/13/the-departure-of-oregon-companies-speaks-to-a-bigger-problem-for-the-state/&ved=2ahUKEwiW0cz11Z-SAxWyPDQIHYEhKJoQFnoECDkQAQ&usg=AOvVaw3Ca9ImjAcvDWxOQ6Fn0buU

What is our State doing to be more business friendly and to retain/keep business here. The list of large Oregon business that have left is concerning. To me reataing business is as important as attracting business.

If Im MLB or even the new owner of the Blazers how does this trend affect them?

 

[SlyPokerDog]

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://www.wweek.com/news/business/2025/06/13/the-departure-of-oregon-companies-speaks-to-a-bigger-problem-for-the-state/&ved=2ahUKEwiW0cz11Z-SAxWyPDQIHYEhKJoQFnoECDkQAQ&usg=AOvVaw3Ca9ImjAcvDWxOQ6Fn0buU

What is our State doing to be more business friendly and to retain/keep business here. The list of large Oregon business that have left is concerning. To me reataing business is as important as attracting business.

If Im MLB or even the new owner of the Blazers how does this trend affect them?

That's a Steve Duin editorial from last year.

Oregon 4th and 8th graders did not cause Techtronix to leave.

Yes, REI closed a store, and then opened 2 more in the Portland area. Businesses do that.

Adobe closed an office in Portland. Ok? Not a founded-in-Oregon business.

And Keen closed, what's a Keen? Anyone here ever buy a Keen? RIP Keen, we never knew you.

4th and 8th graders...

Do we really have stupid kids and bad schools here in Oregon?

Or could it be something else?

Are these tests being given the same test across the country? Are they being administered the same way? Sorry, I'm just not buying it.

Now I'm not saying that Oregon's test results aren't "massaged," but I'm willing to bet they are a lot more accurate than the majority of states.

But we don't really know what's going on across the nation because standardized testing is bad. Evil. Curriculum and testing need to be set by the community, not by the evil federal government.

The one standardized testing we do have is the SAT.

Looking at the data, Oregon has a much higher than average participation rate than other non-mandatory states, and our test results are high.





More interesting data here:

Average SAT Test Score by State

For the graduating class of 2024, the national average SAT score was 1024, a figure that continues a post-pandemic decline even as test-taking numbers rise. The distribution of test scores shows that only 7% of test takers achieved SAT scores between 1400 and 1600. Speaking of the national...

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So Mr Duin's premise that our taxes are too high and our workforce is too dumb really doesn't hold up.

Producing an educated workforce. Could we do better? Sure! But cutting taxes will not make it better.

 

[Hoopguru]

All valid points for sure but there is always room for improvement in recruiting and retaining new business. No different than pro sports, should always be looking at ways to improve performance in order to compete. If we simply take the position that we are good, and thing are peachy keen our ability to compete in recruiting and keeping business here, could be tough a tough struggle.

 

[barfo]

Having states compete with each other to attract businesses is a really bad aspect of our federal system.
There's no reason not to have uniform rules for businesses, including taxes, across the country.
If that were true, then states could compete on making life better for employees, rather than employers.

barfo

 

[Phatguysrule]

That's a Steve Duin editorial from last year.

Oregon 4th and 8th graders did not cause Techtronix to leave.

Yes, REI closed a store, and then opened 2 more in the Portland area. Businesses do that.

Adobe closed an office in Portland. Ok? Not a founded-in-Oregon business.

And Keen closed, what's a Keen? Anyone here ever buy a Keen? RIP Keen, we never knew you.

4th and 8th graders...

Do we really have stupid kids and bad schools here in Oregon?

Or could it be something else?

Are these tests being given the same test across the country? Are they being administered the same way? Sorry, I'm just not buying it.

Now I'm not saying that Oregon's test results aren't "massaged," but I'm willing to bet they are a lot more accurate than the majority of states.

But we don't really know what's going on across the nation because standardized testing is bad. Evil. Curriculum and testing need to be set by the community, not by the evil federal government.

The one standardized testing we do have is the SAT.

Looking at the data, Oregon has a much higher than average participation rate than other non-mandatory states, and our test results are high.

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More interesting data here:

Average SAT Test Score by State

For the graduating class of 2024, the national average SAT score was 1024, a figure that continues a post-pandemic decline even as test-taking numbers rise. The distribution of test scores shows that only 7% of test takers achieved SAT scores between 1400 and 1600. Speaking of the national...

igcsepro.org

So Mr Duin's premise that our taxes are too high and our workforce is too dumb really doesn't hold up.

Producing an educated workforce. Could we do better? Sure! But cutting taxes will not make it better.

Excellent point about the standardized tests and the SAT.

 

[Phatguysrule]

All valid points for sure but there is always room for improvement in recruiting and retaining new business. No different than pro sports, should always be looking at ways to improve performance in order to compete. If we simply take the position that we are good, and thing are peachy keen our ability to compete in recruiting and keeping business here, could be tough a tough struggle.

I don't think anybody thinks everything is good and there's nothing more we could do.

The biggest problem I see here for businesses is that the employees expect to make a decent wage. And we have better rights as employees compared to states in the southeast.

That, and we don't have a lot of excess land available to build factories in desirable areas.

I don't really want to change either of those situations.

Probably the biggest thing we could do is build more housing...