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It's a tough call. The good news? He can potentially outperform this, so there's upside.

The bad news? I'm not sure he does anything especially well other than shoot, and there's a chance he becomes just another guy.

The length mitigates both of those things... he might outperform his last year, just in time to get a massive pay raise (and we'll have overpaid for two or three years) but at least we can get out from under it relatively quickly if it goes south.

I wonder what we could have gotten by trading him and keeping CJ... we'll probably never know, but it would be interesting.
 
That's pretty much what the Portland writers have been saying he'd get all season. I thought hoopsjock was in the ballpark with 4/88 but he got more. I was guessing 4/80 originally
 
Ant could totally outperform this deal, but for those saying Powell was overpaid as a means to saying the Clippers deal was good, should probably acknowledge that was a bad trade now.
 
Chris Craig said:
This league is getting ridiculous.
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Ain’t it the truth. Declining attendance and increasing salaries. Players jumping from one team to another in search of a ring, or demanding trades so they can join up with other stars. No loyalty to anything but $. It’s a circus run amuck.
 
DDolla said:
Correct me if I’m wrong… so we traded CJ just to give that money back to Ant?
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Kind of. I wondered this myself. But there are three things that are better about this:
  1. Ant is 8 years younger than CJ.
  2. His annual salary is markedly lower.
  3. He still hasn't hit his peak... I think most people would agree that as good as CJ is, he isn't going to get a lot better.
 
SlyPokerCat said:
Ant could totally outperform this deal, but for those saying Powell was overpaid as a means to saying the Clippers deal was good, should probably acknowledge that was a bad trade now.
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Because Powell and Simons are nearly identical.
 
illmatic99 said:
so what, you would have let him walk?

this was his market. 3 teams would have offered this.
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They would have? Nice to know we have someone with such intel into those 3 front offices. Detroit has Cunningham and Ivey. Why would they want Ant?
 
illmatic99 said:
so what, you would have let him walk?

this was his market. 3 teams would have offered this.
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Another way of looking at this (or maybe just restating your point): how could the Blazers better use this money?

A sign and trade? For whom?

Let him walk and sign... whom?
 
Ed O said:
Another way of looking at this (or maybe just restating your point): how could the Blazers better use this money?

A sign and trade? For whom?

Let him walk and sign... whom?
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i think they asked an answered the question. there is minimal opportunity cost here given the rest of our cap situation and the weak FA market.
 
RR7 said:
Because Powell and Simons are nearly identical.
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They aren't. But Powell is making quite a bit less and everyone was hammering that as a bad deal.

Not a bad deal if Ant is getting 4/100 and Brunson is getting 4/110
 
TBpup said:
They would have? Nice to know we have someone with such intel into those 3 front offices. Detroit has Cunningham and Ivey. Why would they want Ant?
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so would you have let him walk?
 
TBpup said:
Too much. We are right back to where we were with Dame/CJ. Expensive, short, non-defensive guards making the most amount of money on the team.
And he won't be playing in the role where he had a hot stretch. When will they learn. Cronin pulls that straight out of the Olshey playbook.
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so what the hell do u do? Let him walk?
 
SlyPokerCat said:
They aren't. But Powell is making quite a bit less and everyone was hammering that as a bad deal.

Not a bad deal if Ant is getting 4/100 and Brunson is getting 4/110
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He's making less because he's a worse player with no upside. What a weird way to evaluate deals.
 
illmatic99 said:
so would you have let him walk?
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he’s a rfa, it’s not like he walks immediately if we don’t overpay him. That’s the whole point of RFA. Was OKC really waiting to throw him 130 million?
 
illmatic99 said:
so would you have let him walk?
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Where did I ever come close to saying anything close to that? No one else bid. They could have let another team bid, and then match. Doubtful it would have been for as much as they paid. So few teams had that amount of cap space.
 
Freshtown said:
he’s a rfa, it’s not like he walks immediately if we don’t overpay him. That’s the whole point of RFA. Was OKC really waiting to throw him 130 million?
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why give them a chance to?

there was an article by a former blazer front office employee who suggested OKC throw a poison pill deal at him.

 
RR7 said:
He's making less because he's a worse player with no upside. What a weird way to evaluate deals.
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I think it remains to be seen that Ant is definitively a better player. He has the upside and likely will meet that. But, lets not try to continue to downplay the player Powell is.

He is making substantially less, btw.
 
illmatic99 said:
why give them a chance to?

there was an article by a former blazer front office employee who suggested OKC throw a poison pill deal at him.

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I wanted no part of allowing Ant to go out and let some other team st the market for him, with the risk they give him some shit 2/1 deal that has him unrestricted in 2 seasons. No thanks. I've also read plenty of stories about players feeling a little off put by their teams telling them to go find a deal, instead of committing to them. We want to build around him and Dame, why would we tell him go find a deal you like.
 
RR7 said:
I wanted no part of allowing Ant to go out and let some other team st the market for him, with the risk they give him some shit 2/1 deal that has him unrestricted in 2 seasons. No thanks. I've also read plenty of stories about players feeling a little off put by their teams telling them to go find a deal, instead of committing to them. We want to build around him and Dame, why would we tell him go find a deal you like.
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he's a starting caliber player with opportunity to grow into more. it's not like had we not paid him, we could have replaced him with a player of his caliber. i don't see the problem with this.
 
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