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PCmor7 said:
We're going to be fine. Trust me.

(uses Jedi mind trick)
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lol, but what does fine mean? I'm not saying we'll be a lottery team next year (though anything is possible), I'm just saying it may be harder to hit the ground running then it seems.
 
TorturedBlazerFan said:
Not sure I agree with you on this. They have to make some moves to stay intact they'll lose at least one of the 3 (between curry, Kanter, and hood), then we really don't know when Nurkic is coming back.
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Curry is definitely gone, I think Kanter would be easier to bring back than Hood because Hood is looking for his first real pay day, that scares me.

If Hood leaves we need to draft a bench scorer.
 
GhostOfPGA said:
Curry is definitely gone, I think Kanter would be easier to bring back than Hood because Hood is looking for his first real pay day, that scares me.

If Hood leaves we need to draft a bench scorer.
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Need to unleash a Simons.
 
TorturedBlazerFan said:
lol, but what does fine mean? I'm not saying we'll be a lottery team next year (though anything is possible), I'm just saying it may be harder to hit the ground running then it seems.
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I think the Blazers will be top four in the West again. If we lose all three of Curry, Hood and Kanter, we'll find guys to plug and play. I think Simons is ready to be a good rotation player. But I don't think we're going to lose all three of the players I mentioned. Honestly, I think Hood and Kanter are primed to come back, and we'll find someone to fill Curry's shoes, be it Ant or a solid shooter from an oversaturated free agent market who gets overlooked and we get at a bargain. Just like we've done before. Olshey's been pretty good at identifying guys like that.
 
PCmor7 said:
I think the Blazers will be top four in the West again. If we lose all three of Curry, Hood and Kanter, we'll find guys to plug and play. I think Simons is ready to be a good rotation player. But I don't think we're going to lose all three of the players I mentioned. Honestly, I think Hood and Kanter are primed to come back, and we'll find someone to fill Curry's shoes, be it Ant or a solid shooter from an oversaturated free agent market who gets overlooked and we get at a bargain. Just like we've done before. Olshey's been pretty good at identifying guys like that.
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Both? How, exactly....?
 
BonesJones said:
Both? How, exactly....?
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I think Hood and Kanter will sign for less than the market might usually dictate. I've said that before. They are unusual cases who've been through a lot of bad situations. Now, with what the Warriors are going through, I think they see an even better opportunity to win here, so I think it increases the odds they stay.

And I think the front office will find ways to make something work. We've seen other organizations, like the Warriors, do it. They'll find a way to clear salary or do what it takes.
 
PCmor7 said:
I think Hood and Kanter will sign for less than the market might usually dictate. I've said that before. They are unusual cases who've been through a lot of bad situations. Now, with what the Warriors are going through, I think they see an even better opportunity to win here, so I think it increases the odds they stay.

And I think the front office will find ways to make something work. We've seen other organizations, like the Warriors, do it. They'll find a way to clear salary or do what it takes.
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What do you think they'll sign for? I feel like this is hopelessly optimistic, but maybe I'm wrong.

Warriors havent had 3 non-bird free agents looking for a payday while ago over the cap. They e done nothing like youre suggesting. People compare our situation to other teams when it doesnt compare.
 
Man with Klay going down as well the Warriors are done. We need to go for it.
 
BonesJones said:
What do you think they'll sign for? I feel like this is hopelessly optimistic, but maybe I'm wrong.

Warriors havent had 3 non-bird free agents looking for a payday while ago over the cap. They e done nothing like youre suggesting. People compare our situation to other teams when it doesnt compare.
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I don't know, Bones. Other guys are better-versed on the salary cap than am I, but I've seen people on here who've worked it out. There are ways. People around here just keep bracing themselves for the worst. I think Hood and Kanter want to stay and I think they have reason to stay and I think there's reason to believe the money might not be a determining factor in either case.

You can think that's overly optimistic. I can't tell you not to be. I just think we have a shot, a better shot than you do.

And here's the other thing to that: If we lose both of them, we're still going to be really good. We were really good before we had either of them. We'll find people to play capably if they leave. Like Olshey or not, he finds those guys. He found Curry and Stauskas, and both those guys won games for the Blazers this season. He turned Stauskas into Hood. He got Kanter when the Lakers had more money to offer. He turned Biggie Swanigan into Skal.

This free agent market has so many elite guys commanding huge contracts that guys will miss out and will sign Curry-like contracts. I am very confident of that.

The Blazers are going to be all right. Better than all right. I think the gloom and door and worrying how they'll do it is misplaced. They will find a way.
 
GhostOfPGA said:
No way Hood takes that little.
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He took less than that this year. Seemed to really like this team and situation. He's got a really different mindset than most NBA players and it was a perfect fit with the leadership of Dame. I could see him caring more about that than money.

I'm not predicting he will, but it's certainly a possibility.
 
hoopsjock said:
He took less than that this year. Seemed to really like this team and situation. He's got a really different mindset than most NBA players and it was a perfect fit with the leadership of Dame. I could see him caring more about that than money.

I'm not predicting he will, but it's certainly a possibility.
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I just doubt it, he’s never made real NBA money yet. I think he can get around 8-10m on the open market he’d have to take a big pay cut to stay here. I hope he does but I also can’t fault him for wanting financial security.
 
GhostOfPGA said:
I just doubt it, he’s never made real NBA money yet. I think he can get around 8-10m on the open market he’d have to take a big pay cut to stay here. I hope he does but I also can’t fault him for wanting financial security.
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I get all that but he does seem to have bigger priorities than just money. The market this summer is going to be weird too.
 
hoopsjock said:
I get all that but he does seem to have bigger priorities than just money. The market this summer is going to be weird too.
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Well if we can’t sign him I’d be okay with Kanter getting our full MLE then going out and trying to lure guys like Carroll/Ariza to buy into a championship run.

All while trying to deal ET+Hark+25 for someone who fits the roster
 
dviss1 said:
Bro, cats in here are salty AF right now.

Even with the minimal chance that AD comes here...
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Damn right people are salty.

Most of us have come to accept that free agency is pretty much a scam and that only certain teams get to sign high impact FAs. Now, teams like Portland are being told they aren't supposed to trade for good players either. About the only thing left is to make sure small market teams aren't allowed to draft who they want.

The success of the Bucks and Blazers this season should have given fans of small market teams hope. Instead, they just keep finding new ways to tilt the field against us.
 
I think this is my favorite offer so far. Would have to be done after July 1st. Makes a ton of sense for all teams involved.

NOP Gets:
CJ McCollum
Zach Collins
Maurice Harkless
Gary Trent Jr.
11th Pick (MIN)
2020 POR 1st

MIN Gets:
25th Pick (POR)

POR Gets:
Anthony Davis
Gorgui Dieng
Miles Plumlee

ATL Gets:
Solomon Hill
2020 POR 2nd
Cash (POR)
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NOP In: McCollum, Collins, Harkless, Trent, #11, 2020 POR 1st
NOP Out: Davis, Hill

Great haul for Davis. They get a star who fits great next to Jrue. They get a great prospect in Collins whos the ideal C to put next to Zion. Harkless gives them some forward help that they need if they want to be good. 11th pick should provide good value. Future first as well.

MIN In: #25
MIN Out: #11, Dieng

Minnesota trades down 16 slots to shed Dieng. The difference between #11 & #25 is less than most years, and shedding Dieng could be the start of the possibility of pursuing D'Angelo Russell.

POR In: Davis, Dieng, Plumlee
POR Out: McCollum, Collins, Harkless, Trent, #25, 2020 1st, 2020 2nd

Portland gets Davis, keeps Nurk, creatively saves MIN $16M without anything being sent back to get the 11th pick to include. Dieng is a rough contract but he can play and would give us some helpful C depth.

ATL In: Hill, 2020 POR 2nd (31-55)
ATL Out: Plumlee

ATL takes on a very similar contract to Plumlee's in Hill, who only makes $200K more. Portland is unable to take on Hill (would be taking in apx. $50K too much) so taking on Plumlee works. For the extra $200K, Atlanta gets possible 2nd round pick. Cash can be included if needed.
 
The universe is basically telling us to go all in. One aspect to consider is that if Davis doesn't resign after a year the Blazers will have significant cap room to go after someone else with only Dame/Nurk and rookie scale contracts on the payroll. Depending on how well they do with AD they may actually lure someone to play with Dame.
 
Assuming we win the AD sweepstakes by offloading CJ and other scrubs to NO.
2020 Playoff WC first round: The Blazing Good Guys (aka Yours Truly) vs The Fakers (aka Cheaters and Liars).
Do you expect AD to pull his weight or do you believe he will defer to his Daddy (aka LeBronzo) ?
I expect the ladder ... I just don't trust that AD. I hope he is traded to Miami ... so Pat Riley can try a Masai Ujiri ... and fail miserably ...
 
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