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The new iphone is bigger/smaller/different shape. The camera is incrementally better. blah blah blah.
 
The iPhone will have those new ultra fast charging batteries that Samsung and Motorola have had for the last year. Everyone will freak out over this, praising Apple for being the first with ultra fast charging batteries.
 
Denny Crane said:
Camera supposed to record 4K video. That's slick.
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Yeah, I'm in the market for a new phone soon. Was looking mainly at the LG G4, which does UHD. My brother has it and it does excellent low light video. Price wise, unsubsidized, the G4 is only $480 right now which is pretty good. When you're paying cash for the phone, there's a huge jump in price between paying $750 for an iphone6 or $850 for an iphone6+ so I'll probably stick with either the G4 or a Samsung Note4.

The only thing holding me back is the lack of storage for the price. Maybe they'll start at 32GB models, who knows. 16GB for the low end is pretty shitty 64GB is "ok".
 
Natebishop3 said:
Sweet, what did they "invent" this time that's been out for the last couple years?
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Marketing that can use technology other companies innovate and streamline it to their "Apple Lifestyle" and charge double. Why spend money on innovation, when they can rip you off and make billions on it? I think they've learned their lesson on innovation when Microsuck and Samsung ripped them off
 
Natebishop3 said:
Sweet, what did they "invent" this time that's been out for the last couple years?
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SlyPokerDog said:
The iPhone will have those new ultra fast charging batteries that Samsung and Motorola have had for the last year. Everyone will freak out over this, praising Apple for being the first with ultra fast charging batteries.
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and the 4k thing Denny mentioned.
 
My Verizon contract is up next month. I'm definitely upgrading to the 6s+.

I have a galaxy S6 here for development and it's awful. I use a Galaxy Tab 4 a lot and it sucks, too. I'm talking about the user interface and just general user experience.

On android, I really miss my messages going to all my devices (and computers) seamlessly.

While Apple may not innovate like they did under Jobs, they sure are still making kick ass quality products that are upgrades over the previous versions.

I'm satisfied with just a bigger screen and major improvement in battery life. Those things alone make the phone worth it.
 
Denny Crane said:
My Verizon contract is up next month. I'm definitely upgrading to the 6s+.

I have a galaxy S6 here for development and it's awful. I use a Galaxy Tab 4 a lot and it sucks, too. I'm talking about the user interface and just general user experience.
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That is why I tend to stay away from Samsung, they make great hardware and crap all over it with software.

The pure Android devices are much better, software wise, I tend to go Nexus or Motorola for my Android devices - while it is not as polished at some things as Apple is - it is usually a bit more advanced in features and has some functions that are better than Apple.

I am ready for a new daily driver phone as well - I will probably choose between the new iPhone 6S, new Moto X and the Nexus 5X. It is going to be interesting to see what is coming with the 6S - we have an old iPhone 5 here for development, it is a beautiful device, but really too small for daily use.
 
I've had Samsung and LG and am really resistant to Apple products. I'm in the market for a new phone soon and have considered switching. Screen size and battery life are my main concerns.

What should I go with?
 
I'm in the same situation as dviss. I've had the HTC one the last two and a half years and liked it, but I don't want to buy the s6 now that it's like six months old. Might go with the iPhone, but I hate apple products and want to chuck it against the wall when I use my wife's 6. Imo android is such a better os. And I hate safari as a web browser. But media players on androids suck, and it would be nice to have iTunes on my phone
 
dviss1 said:
I've had Samsung and LG and am really resistant to Apple products. I'm in the market for a new phone soon and have considered switching. Screen size and battery life are my main concerns.

What should I go with?
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If you really do not like Apple products - I would look at the Moto X - it has some things that are just pure genius - the automatic detection of being in the car and automatically reading texts for you and listening for answers / commands is the reason I really enjoy it. The camera quick launch gesture is also very nice. It does have some issues - the previous versions had sub-par cameras - but they do say that the new one has much improved camera (the reviews seem to confirm it) = it does not have the premium metal feel of the iPhone or the latest Samsung/HTC - but it is very comfortable.
 
BTW - I am somewhat interested in what Microsoft will be showing in October. They have been working on Continuum - which automatically changes from Tablet mode to Desktop mode as needed. I am sure they will expand it to phones at some point. If they actually produce a Surface phone with an Intel processor that can convert into a full fledged Windows 10 PC when connected to a dock that has a keyboard/mouse/monitor output - it would be epic. I might just have to get one.
 
Denny Crane said:
My Verizon contract is up next month. I'm definitely upgrading to the 6s+.

I have a galaxy S6 here for development and it's awful. I use a Galaxy Tab 4 a lot and it sucks, too. I'm talking about the user interface and just general user experience.

On android, I really miss my messages going to all my devices (and computers) seamlessly.

While Apple may not innovate like they did under Jobs, they sure are still making kick ass quality products that are upgrades over the previous versions.

I'm satisfied with just a bigger screen and major improvement in battery life. Those things alone make the phone worth it.
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That's because Jobs was the master at taking credit for other people's work. Apparently Steve Wozniak said that Jobs didn't do jack shit in terms of the development of the early Apple computers. He just had a really good mind for business (and screwing over his people.)
 
andalusian said:
If you really do not like Apple products - I would look at the Moto X - it has some things that are just pure genius - the automatic detection of being in the car and automatically reading texts for you and listening for answers / commands is the reason I really enjoy it. The camera quick launch gesture is also very nice. It does have some issues - the previous versions had sub-par cameras - but they do say that the new one has much improved camera (the reviews seem to confirm it) = it does not have the premium metal feel of the iPhone or the latest Samsung/HTC - but it is very comfortable.
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Thanks I'll take a look at it. I really don't know what direction I want to move in. I just know that I want to throw this fucking LG into the Willamette at times...
 
Natebishop3 said:
That's because Jobs was the master at taking credit for other people's work. Apparently Steve Wozniak said that Jobs didn't do jack shit in terms of the development of the early Apple computers. He just had a really good mind for business (and screwing over his people.)
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I'm not particularly a Jobs fan. However, Apple with him kicked ass. When he left, Apple sucked hard enough to need a $100M loan from Microsoft. When they got him back, they turned into a behemoth and their entire product line rocks.

With him gone, it sure seems like they're lacking in innovation.
 
Denny Crane said:
I'm not particularly a Jobs fan. However, Apple with him kicked ass. When he left, Apple sucked hard enough to need a $100M loan from Microsoft. When they got him back, they turned into a behemoth and their entire product line rocks.

With him gone, it sure seems like they're lacking in innovation.
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I think he had a keen eye and he was definitely a visionary. There really wasn't much difference between him and Gates. Both took advances made by other people and ran with them. With that said, Jobs was an ego maniac and I never got that impression from Gates.
 
Natebishop3 said:
I think he had a keen eye and he was definitely a visionary. There really wasn't much difference between him and Gates. Both took advances made by other people and ran with them. With that said, Jobs was an ego maniac and I never got that impression from Gates.
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IMO, Microsoft made godawful products all along. They dominated through business practices that got them sued in many nations.
 
Denny Crane said:
IMO, Microsoft made godawful products all along. They dominated through business practices that got them sued in many nations.
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Well, that wasn't really my point. From my understanding, Gates didn't really invent anything. He just purchased the rights to new technology and made a fortune. Is that wrong?
 
Denny Crane said:
IMO, Microsoft made godawful products all along. They dominated through business practices that got them sued in many nations.
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I would argue that Microsoft made amazing products given the fact that they did not control the hardware. the degree of difficulty is so much bigger when you have to be good enough for everyday use while adhering to whatever crazy hardware stuff being thrown at it. I know that this is not a sexy proposition as "inventing" the GUI (by stealing it from Xerox PARC) - but it is a pretty amazing achievement.

Microsoft was actually very innovative by being the first ones to really virtualize the modern OS for consumers so it can run on just about any crazy bit of hardware thrown at it.
 
Natebishop3 said:
Well, that wasn't really my point. From my understanding, Gates didn't really invent anything. He just purchased the rights to new technology and made a fortune. Is that wrong?
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I'm pretty sure Gates was a computer hacker from the start.

Sure he bought DOS, but it was a matter of adapting that software for use in mass market computer systems.

Windows was visionary, though it sucked until Windows 95 and still sucks to this day.

Perhaps his greatest achievement, and IMO one of the greatest business stories ever, was how M$ was buying ISPs and backbones to build MSN as a compuserve like closed network and rapidly changed direction to support the open internet. The 180 degree turnaround and implementation of HTML (and more) in Office products (and more) was incredible.

Jobs definitely was a rare breed. I don't know of anyone who was as visionary and competent as a product designer. That he started NeXt after leaving Apple says a lot.
 
andalusian said:
I would argue that Microsoft made amazing products given the fact that they did not control the hardware. the degree of difficulty is so much bigger when you have to be good enough for everyday use while adhering to whatever crazy hardware stuff being thrown at it. I know that this is not a sexy proposition as "inventing" the GUI (by stealing it from Xerox PARC) - but it is a pretty amazing achievement.

Microsoft was actually very innovative by being the first ones to really virtualize the modern OS for consumers so it can run on just about any crazy bit of hardware thrown at it.
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Who cares, the software is awful.

NTFS has got to be one of the worst filesystems ever designed. As the disk filled beyond 10% usage, the entire computer slowed to a crawl. That's just one of my complaints.

The UI was adequate as an X terminal, but just terrible for every day use.

That I had to run a virus scanner and malware scanner 24/7/365 slows down the system even more.

No thanks.

The price of whatever crazy hardware is that you had to pay for M$ OS when you bought a computer for the longest time. Whether you wanted it or not.
 
dviss1 said:
I've had Samsung and LG and am really resistant to Apple products. I'm in the market for a new phone soon and have considered switching. Screen size and battery life are my main concerns.

What should I go with?
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What's wrong with the LG?

I'm looking at the G4. The camera is awesome, my bro has it. Low light photos are insanely good.

Are you getting it subsidized, if so I'd go with an Iphone 64GB probably. If you're paying cash I'd go with the LG. The Samsung doesn't let you use swappable batteries anymore or microSD cards.
 
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