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Denny Crane said:
I built almost every computer I owned before getting my MacBook Pro. I hand picked every part for ultimate performance. I did own a Dell laptop, and an HP one, an AlienWare one (before Dell bought/ruined them), and a Sager laptop.

I still use the Sager. It runs Ubuntu Server edition so I can test and benchmark server software on it. I even just upgraded the hard drives to those Seagate hybrid 1T ones. It looks like a laptop, but weighs like 20lbs. Its a bitch to lug around, so I never really did. I didn't really carry around the others either. Windows and Ubuntu desktop didn't work well without a mouse, and it hated using the trackpads on those systems built to run Windows.

I was never much of an Apple fan. On the hardware side, you got way more bang for your buck building your own rig. And apple's software was just awful until OSX. They'd build a slick packaged hardware platform and put an OS on it that used 110% of its resources. The old macs spent more time OS swapping to floppy disk than doing any useful work. I avoided Apple like the plague.

I'd talk a lot like Natebishop3. Way better hardware for cheap. And you didn't get stuck with OS9 and all the Pascal legacy bullshit.

I got that Sager to run Ubuntu, not Windows. Windows was always an OK X Terminal, but only useful as an OS for lack of anything else. XP? Hahahaha. 3.2G memory limit even if you have a 64 bit CPU and 32G of RAM. Microsoft was absurdly late to the 64 bit world. Vista was a disaster, and unusable. Windows 7 actually worked, but it was still windows.

Microsoft uses a file system called NTFS. It works fine until your hard disk gets 10% full and then all that whiz bang super cheap and blazing fast hardware slows down over time as you use your computer more and more. Seriously, has everyone not noticed that wiping your hard drive and installing Windows fresh makes your computer run fast again, like when it was new?

So I worked in a Windows shop. Windows server for email and other things, windows XP on every Dell workstation. I bought 8G of RAM for the Dell for $69 out of my own pocket and installed it. Then installed Ubuntu 64 on it and ran Windows in a VM to access the 2 mission critical apps required by my job. One was a .NET app that would not display properly in any browser but Internet Exploder... This legacy hell is a huge reason to stay away from M$ in the first place.

Ubuntu worked great. It ran all the things I needed to do 90% of my job. I never liked OpenOffice, so I used M$ Office in the VM. I have been a Unix geek since the mid 1980s when it ran on PDP 11s and Vax systems. I ran Linux in the early days when the kernel version was 0.3.x and exchanged emails with Linus regularly.

I built data center scaled applications using FreeBSD, which was just better software (every algorithm well done). I knew many of the core committers, the best ones ended up hired by Apple.

Ubuntu showed the promise of what Unix can do for the desktop. The graphical UI was on par with Windows, but the applications were amateur and not often as well developed as the commercial ones you could get for Windows. Like GIMP vs. PhotoShop? Adobe did it way better.

Apple's hardware is plenty good enough. I play Diablo 3 on the laptop with all graphics options set to max and get a fast frame rate. What I also get is 8 hours of battery life compared to the 2 on my Windows class laptops, or the 20 minutes on the Sager.

The operating system is just so well done. It's Unix under the hood, but the Cocoa UI makes stunningly great apps.

Why spend less money on better hardware that runs shitty software?

I learned my lesson.

As for games, that's what the PS4 is for.
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Well said! Repped!
 
Tell me what powerhouse has this….

1.) Dual GPUs - allowing you work pixel for pixel in up to (3) 4k displays
2.) 20Gb/s of throughput (The freeway to where all information can be passed back and forth)
3.) Up to 12GB of video memory
4.) 528GBs of memory bandwidth.
5.) 12-core Intel Xeon E5 processors - up to 60GB of memory bandwidth.
6.) Up to 12 processing cores/24 virtual cores
 
what is that, 5 grand? to do what, edit home movies?
 
EL PRESIDENTE said:
what is that, 5 grand? to do what, edit home movies?
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Seriously. So many people are so concerned about the specs on their computer, even though they'll never use them. It isn't neat to be able to tell your friends you have 24 virtual cores.

Here come Denny to tell me he fully utilizes his hardware using various IDEs.
 
Yeah, no doubt that they're vastly superior in the creative community, graphic design, etc, but its just overkill for most people.
 
blazerboy30 said:
Seriously. So many people are so concerned about the specs on their computer, even though they'll never use them. It isn't neat to be able to tell your friends you have 24 virtual cores.

Here come Denny to tell me he fully utilizes his hardware using various IDEs.
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People don't need fast super cars, yet people are still buying them.
 
EL PRESIDENTE said:
Yeah, no doubt that they're vastly superior in the creative community, graphic design, etc, but its just overkill for most people.
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You are correct… But saying some dude can build a computer that is just as fast and just as good is seriously doubting the engineering capabilities of apple.
 
People like Nate are guys that build muscle cars. A lot of power without the entire performance. Apple is like Porsche, Mercedes and Audio; that take pride in designing a car that is not only fast, but handles all the challenges that a road sends your way.
 
magnifier661 said:
Gaming? Sorry to burst your bubble here, but that isn't anything to be proud of.

Apple is better for music recording, in the field of science, designing and can run any and all business functions like a PC. If you want to tip your cap in an industry that has xbox and play station as the demographic leaders, enjoy mediocrity
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I wonder when Apple will step into the gaming industry?
 
BigGameDamian said:
I wonder when Apple will step into the gaming industry?
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I don't think they would ever really want to. The industry has had companies try and fail to go into the niche of this industry. Apple can still with what they are doing and still make way more money than they could ever need in the field they have now.

Even though Apple is the third largest PC retailer in the world, they still are only 12% of the entire market share. They have heavy competition now in the smart phone and tablet market, so they need to make sure they market well enough to keep their edge.
 
What were the net incomes for Google, apple and Microsoft?

Why is Google #1 and Microsoft is listed as best companiees to work for but apple isn't?
 
blazerboy30 said:
Cool story, bro.
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Yep it really is a cool story. It's sooo cool that a company on the brink of bankruptcy has now become the largest tech company in the world in less than 15 years. That they went from being a spot on the radar to microsoft and now microsoft is trying to emulate their model to be like apple.

What's really a "cool story" is that their stock is over 550 a share, when just 6 months ago, many in the investment industry claimed they were finally going to hit bottom.

The greatest of the coolest of stories is that over and over and over again, people try and talk down about the apple products, yet they are still kicking ass.

What really "isn't a cool story" are ones that think they can build a computer just as good as apple and fail
 
People arguing about apple vs Microsoft remind me of republican democrat debates. A bunch of people getting pissy and defending a stance to the death when it doesn't matter. People have preferances.
 
JFizzleRaider said:
What were the net incomes for Google, apple and Microsoft?

Why is Google #1 and Microsoft is listed as best companiees to work for but apple isn't?
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Google Market Cap: 353.05B EPS: 36.75

Apple Market Cap: 507.53B EPS: 39.75

Microsoft Market Cap: 323.32B EPS: 2.67

Your numbers are wrong
 
JFizzleRaider said:
People arguing about apple vs Microsoft remind me of republican democrat debates. A bunch of people getting pissy and defending a stance to the death when it doesn't matter. People have preferances.
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Difference is Apple is truly the better company. All the numbers are proof.
 
http://www.technewsworld.com/story/78391.html

We've got Sony's upcoming PlayStation 4 and Microsoft's Xbox One. Just recently, we've got Ouya as well. The latest additions to the video game console arena? Google and possibly even Apple, according to reports. Bottom line? "From a hardware standpoint it is going to be messy," predicted Brett Sappington, director of research at Parks Associates.
 
magnifier661 said:
Google Market Cap: 353.05B EPS: 36.75

Apple Market Cap: 507.53B EPS: 39.75

Microsoft Market Cap: 323.32B EPS: 2.67

Your numbers are wrong
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What numbers are wrong?

Fortune comes out with a top 100 companies to work for list, Google was #1, Microsoft was top 100, apple wasn't
 
JFizzleRaider said:
What numbers are wrong?

Fortune comes out with a top 100 companies to work for list, Google was #1, Microsoft was top 100, apple wasn't
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link?

Ohhhhh! LMAO! I thought you meant best companies. We are talking that employees enjoy working for? Okay, well that's awesome! It's always good to be a boss loved by their employees. Sooooo Liberal!
 
JFizzleRaider said:
http://money.cnn.com/magazines/fortune/best-companies/
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Yeah I caught what you were trying to say later. Does that mean that the company is better though?

Although, I think google is a damn good company. I think the apple vs. microsuck is laughable. It really should be apple vs. google. Two companies that are cool, loved by the fan base and highly profitable. Microsuck is like the High School Football star that is now bald, fat and working construction.
 
blazerboy30 said:
Seriously. So many people are so concerned about the specs on their computer, even though they'll never use them. It isn't neat to be able to tell your friends you have 24 virtual cores.

Here come Denny to tell me he fully utilizes his hardware using various IDEs.
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Why don't you use the slowest CPU you can find?

Go for it. You surely use less of a computer than I do.
 
porkchopexpress said:
And your homemade computer is built into the back of a 27" LED display?
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Nah, I have a 27" HD monitor but I don't need it to be built into the computer. It's not worth an extra $1200 to me. You can get a really nice HD monitor for a couple hundred bucks.
 
Why are we talking about professional grade equipment? I'm talking about building an average, every day, home computer. Something that any regular person would own. How many people need something that can cut an album or edit a feature length film? That's just absurd, AND I bet I could build one for cheaper than Apple sells it (if I so choose). I already said that Apple is better at music/video editing though.
 
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