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BoBoBREWSKI said:
I agree. and the Suns wont be able to build a competitive team around him.
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I'm not sure Booker contract makes a difference one way or the other on that. Put Booker on a good value 25% contract instead of 35% and they still have little hope.

The Suns have almost no trade assets and no draft pick until 2032. I suppose they need to hope that every late or 2nd round draft pick and cheap free agent signing they make is a home run.
 
SharpesTriumph said:
I'm not sure Booker contract makes a difference one way or the other on that. Put Booker on a good value 25% contract instead of 35% and they still have little hope.

The Suns have almost no trade assets and no draft pick until 2032. I suppose they need to hope that every late or 2nd round draft pick and cheap free agent signing they make is a home run.
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True. My point was more to the fact if Booker wants to win and contend for a championship he should have looked at signing for less on a different team after his current deal is done.
 
BoBoBREWSKI said:
if Booker wants to win and contend for a championship he should have looked at signing for less on a different team after his current deal is done.
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What allstar level player has ever done that? I can't think of any.

Dirk/Duncan might have taken less to try and stack their teams but they were drafted about 30 years ago with totally different salary caps. They didn't go to different teams.
 
I suppose the Lebron/Wade/Bosh Heat took a bit less than the max (although very close to it). I don't want any allstars trying to emulate that group.

I prefer players just sign for what they can and the teams are responsible for building the best roster around them. Seems like cheating to have guys take less money to stash more talent on their roster. Other franchises often aren't able to do that.
 
SharpesTriumph said:
I suppose the Lebron/Wade/Bosh Heat took a bit less than the max (although very close to it). I don't want any allstars trying to emulate that group.

I prefer players just sign for what they can and the teams are responsible for building the best roster around them. Seems like cheating to have guys take less money to stash more talent on their roster. Other franchises often aren't able to do that.
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Did Tom Brady cheat to win all his Super Bowls? He consistently took less money than other QB's to help the Patriots build a better roster around him. Smart move IMO.
 
BoBoBREWSKI said:
Did Tom Brady cheat to win all his Super Bowls? He consistently took less money than other QB's to help the Patriots build a better roster around him. Smart move IMO.
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Yes he and the Patriots did cheat many times and were caught. Who knows how many more times they may have not been caught.
 
SharpesTriumph said:
Yes he and the Patriots did cheat many times and were caught. Who knows how many more times they may have not been caught.
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Good lord dude. Yes I am aware of that, but that's not the point of what we are discussing... players taking less money to build a better roster. You cant convince me that Brady taking less money wasnt a big reason why him and the Pats won so many Super Bowls.
 
kjironman1 said:
It’s already $50 million a year. That’s crazy money. I wonder who will be the first player to get $100 million in a year?
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how are okc going to pay players 4-15 after williams signs his extention likely close to what chet and paolo got
 
BoBoBREWSKI said:
Good lord dude. Yes I am aware of that, but that's not the point of what we are discussing... players taking less money to build a better roster. You cant convince me that Brady taking less money wasnt a big reason why him and the Pats won so many Super Bowls.
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The league is roughly a 50/50 split between players and owners. Instead of making the stars, the players that fans come to see and watch on TV, take less, why not have something like owners can increase their team's salary cap by taking 40% instead of 50% every 2 out of 5 years. The salaries would still be calculated on the 50/50, so the stars would still be paid the same, but teams would have the ability, for a few years at a time, to pay role players and make lopsided trades.
 
BoBoBREWSKI said:
Good lord dude. Yes I am aware of that, but that's not the point of what we are discussing... players taking less money to build a better roster. You cant convince me that Brady taking less money wasnt a big reason why him and the Pats won so many Super Bowls.
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Yeah I do think Brady/Duncan taking less money contributed to them winning such a large number of titles. Yes it means their titles aren't as impressive as for instance Jokic carrying his team with a handful of spare parts to a title. Or Jordan earning 130% of the salary cap himself on his final two titles. Brady/Duncan routinely had stacked rosters.

Brady/Duncan still might be two of the best ever at their positions either way. Part of the reason I'm not a titles or bust kind of sports fan - so many factors besides how good the individual player is.

Booker will never be on the levels of any of these guys and I don't believe he can be the best player on a team that wins a title. Phoenix probably can never win and I don't know contenders will ever value him as a top NBA player so makes sense for him individually to just grab whatever money he can.

I prefer all the NBA players get whatever contract they can and its up to the NBA to have systems that make the competition fair as well as good decisions by teams management. I mean we could have Giannis, Luka, Jokic all sign for the minimum with some team next season and that team would be a massive favorite for the title. I would hate that.
 
Chris Craig said:
Insanity
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not when you think about it in the proper perspective. After all, it's only $138........per minute....every minute of every day of every week of every month for 2 years

and there's even more perspective: that 145M extension will be tacked on after his current deal that has a 3 year balance of 171M remaining. So, he's basically got a 5-year/316M contract. More than 63M/year for 5 years. Now that's some special kind of inflation protection (although with Trump you never know)

if you made $50,000 a year. it would only take you 6,300 years to earn 316M. Of course, if you got 2.5 weeks of vacation a year and you only took half of it, after that 6300 years you could take a 151 year vacation....relax, you earned it
 
SharpesTriumph said:
Yeah I do think Brady/Duncan taking less money contributed to them winning such a large number of titles. Yes it means their titles aren't as impressive as for instance Jokic carrying his team with a handful of spare parts to a title. Or Jordan earning 130% of the salary cap himself on his final two titles. Brady/Duncan routinely had stacked rosters.

Brady/Duncan still might be two of the best ever at their positions either way. Part of the reason I'm not a titles or bust kind of sports fan - so many factors besides how good the individual player is.

Booker will never be on the levels of any of these guys and I don't believe he can be the best player on a team that wins a title. Phoenix probably can never win and I don't know contenders will ever value him as a top NBA player so makes sense for him individually to just grab whatever money he can.

I prefer all the NBA players get whatever contract they can and its up to the NBA to have systems that make the competition fair as well as good decisions by teams management. I mean we could have Giannis, Luka, Jokic all sign for the minimum with some team next season and that team would be a massive favorite for the title. I would hate that.
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looks like Duncan didn't really take less money until he was 36. Well, slightly less than max at 34. He was maxed out in salary for 4 of their 5 championships. He earned over 245M

I don't know about Brady. The NFL has a different structure though
 
Remember back when people were saying Cooper Flagg was upset that the Jazz didn’t get the #1 pick? :biglaugh:
 
SharpesTriumph said:
Yeah thought it was bizarre they dumped him for 2nd round pick. Where were these vets when we had years of junk forwards around DameCJ?

I don't think they need to cut as many vets as they have, that roster might not even win 20 games now.
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Why do people think it's bizarre that they dumped him for a 2nd round pick.... they basically got the same value that they traded for him.

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He doesn't have much value. It's kind of like Jerami Grant. Not sure why Cronin supposedly thought he was worth two firsts. We only sent out 1 first.
 

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You'd think at some point owners would say that no team can afford to tie up more than a third of the salary cap in any one player. I get that the top players are worth every penny of that to a contending team, but it's almost impossible to maintain a contending team around those players, and injuries to the star leave a team totally decimated the way that Boston and Indiana are now.
 
Natebishop3 said:
Why do people think it's bizarre that they dumped him for a 2nd round pick.... they basically got the same value that they traded for him.

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He doesn't have much value. It's kind of like Jerami Grant. Not sure why Cronin supposedly thought he was worth two firsts. We only sent out 1 first.
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My reply was to comments about how Collins got the Jazz a lot of wins last year. Back when Utah acquired him he had a huge contract. Now it's an expiring deal.

My point was how the Blazers had a decade of forwards way worse than Collins and couldn't get anybody close to Collins level to help that DameCJ duo. We had a number of productive centers in Plumlee/Ed Davis/ pre injury Nurk. We had to start Turner/Crabbe/Bazemore/Aminu/Harkless etc. junk forwards. I would have loved to have two-three Collins/Grant type of players on some of those rosters instead.

We sent our what 5 FRP for Covington/Zach Collins/Nance. Never had a good forward acquired for these cheap 2nd round pick value.

I suppose that was the big downside of the Blazers always having overpaid contract in those eras. We weren't able to take on any good vet salary since we blew our cap on a bunch of shit.
 
e_blazer said:
You'd think at some point owners would say that no team can afford to tie up more than a third of the salary cap in any one player. I get that the top players are worth every penny of that to a contending team, but it's almost impossible to maintain a contending team around those players, and injuries to the star leave a team totally decimated the way that Boston and Indiana are now.
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Booker salary in all those years is 35% of the cap. That's the max.
 
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