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SlyPokerCat said:
I don't know about that. Depends on his supporting cast. I don't see him getting past Dallas, Golden State. Memphis and a healthy Denver....probably not. Phoenix and Utah are wait and sees for their offseasons. Clippers with a healthy PG and Kawhi, not so sure.
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Shit happens every year and if you have a good team you rise to the top. Everyone had Lakers and Nets on top last season and we all know how that worked out. We can absolutely get past any of these teams. You underrate a healthy Dame. He got us back to back 3 seeds with Aminu and Harkless.
 
KSF-ERIC said:
Shit happens every year and if you have a good team you rise to the top. Everyone had Lakers and Nets on top last season and we all know how that worked out. We can absolutely get past any of these teams. You underrate a healthy Dame. He got us back to back 3 seeds with Aminu and Harkless.
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Injuries can happen to them or us.

Doncic, Curry, Jokic, Kawhi are all better than Dame when healthy. Dame may or may not be better than Ja Morant next year. Probably will for next year, maybe not the year after.
 
SlyPokerCat said:
Injuries can happen to them or us.

Doncic, Curry, Jokic, Kawhi are all better than Dame when healthy. Dame may or may not be better than Ja Morant next year. Probably will for next year, maybe not the year after.
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Maybe. But in one season, Dame has the talent to rise above them all. Also- having a top player doesn't guarantee a top seed. Look at Kevin Durant, Kyrie Irving, Anthony Davis, and LeBron James.
 
KSF-ERIC said:
Maybe. But in one season, Dame has the talent to rise above them all. Also- having a top player doesn't guarantee a top seed. Look at Kevin Durant, Kyrie Irving, Anthony Davis, and LeBron James.
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I don't disagree. I just think we will have a rough go at it and will be hoping luck goes our way with injuries to those other teams. I don't think its a certainty we will just waltz into the playoffs.

With our current squad I think we are battling for the play in.

Dame needs support.
 
blazerfan11 said:
Player #1___18 points 10 rebounds per game
Player #2___16 points 8 rebounds per game

both players averaged 30.8 minutes per game.

That's similar production, which is what I said.
Player #1 is Christian Wood.
Player #2 is John Collins.
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Way different situation.
 
SlyPokerCat said:
Doncic, Curry, Jokic, Kawhi are all better than Dame when healthy. Dame may or may not be better than Ja Morant next year. Probably will for next year, maybe not the year after.
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I wish there was a way for me to get this statement in front of Damian Lillard.

It might not age well.
 
https://kingsherald.com/articles/sacramento-kings-washington-wizards-trade-rumors-nba-mock-draft/

Rumor: Wizards pursuing 4th pick from the Kings

Washington’s front office is really high on 6-foot-4 guard, Jaden Ivey out of Purdue. They've spent a significant amount of time discussing possible trade packages to acquire the number four overall pick from Sacramento, Ivey’s assumed draft position, sources tell me. Ivey, 20, regularly pulls comparisons to explosive combo guards Ja Morant and Russell Westbrook.
 
BigGameDamian said:
https://kingsherald.com/articles/sacramento-kings-washington-wizards-trade-rumors-nba-mock-draft/

Rumor: Wizards pursuing 4th pick from the Kings

Washington’s front office is really high on 6-foot-4 guard, Jaden Ivey out of Purdue. They've spent a significant amount of time discussing possible trade packages to acquire the number four overall pick from Sacramento, Ivey’s assumed draft position, sources tell me. Ivey, 20, regularly pulls comparisons to explosive combo guards Ja Morant and Russell Westbrook.
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Of course, there's no indication what offerings they think might be sufficient to make that 6-spot leap.
 
PtldPlatypus said:
Of course, there's no indication what offerings they think might be sufficient to make that 6-spot leap.
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Perfect opportunity for us to act as middleman, moving them up 3 of the 6 spots to better entice Sacramento, and getting additional assets while still having our likely choice of Duren and Sochan at Washington's old spot.
 
If we are blowing it up I want high end picks and players under 22. You’re looking for a foundation piece you can build everything around, not Brown/Middleton second/third bananas.
 
PtldPlatypus said:
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Freshtown said:
If we are blowing it up I want high end picks and players under 22. You’re looking for a foundation piece you can build everything around, not Brown/Middleton second/third bananas.
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Ant at PG would be that foundation piece we're building everything around, with Brown as his Robin, and then developing whomever we draft at 7. Or, maybe these additional pieces give us the capital needed to be able to trade up for Banchero. 7+Bos23+Mil25 for 3? Then rebuild around an Ant/Brown/Paolo triumvirate?
 
PtldPlatypus said:
Ant at PG would be that foundation piece we're building everything around, with Brown as his Robin, and then developing whomever we draft at 7. Or, maybe these additional pieces give us the capital needed to be able to trade up for Banchero. 7+Bos23+Mil25 for 3? Then rebuild around an Ant/Brown/Paolo triumvirate?
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Exactly. This would be the move.
 
PtldPlatypus said:
Ant at PG would be that foundation piece we're building everything around, with Brown as his Robin, and then developing whomever we draft at 7. Or, maybe these additional pieces give us the capital needed to be able to trade up for Banchero. 7+Bos23+Mil25 for 3? Then rebuild around an Ant/Brown/Paolo triumvirate?
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Simons is the foundation? A 25 game stretch in his 4th season makes Ant a franchise player?
 
wizenheimer said:
Simons is the foundation? A 25 game stretch in his 4th season makes Ant a franchise player?
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Really the goal would be to hopefully acquire more talent through the draft over the next several years. By the time Brown is at his peak we should hopefully have a contending team.
 
Natebishop3 said:
I still think Boston is the best landing spot for Dame.

I'd try to get Brown/filler/picks out of them.

Dame/Tatum is a lethal combo.
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Brown/Tatum is more lethal on both sides of floor and younger. If I was Boston, I wouldn’t trade Brown for Dame straight up. Boston doesn’t need a fix. Just more experience. Their 8 man rotation is all under contract next year and only Horford is over 27.
 
Cugel said:
Brown cannot dribble. nfw.
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No doubt the more ball handlers on the floor the better. The hard part is achieving this without going small. I think you need at least 3 ball-handers on the floor. I like that both Watford and Winslow can do this from the PF position. That will work if they are on the floor with multiple shooters. Also why I would be OK with Daniels or Sochan at #7.

I like Brown, but I think he might be better as SF rather a SG.
 
Natebishop3 said:
Really the goal would be to hopefully acquire more talent through the draft over the next several years. By the time Brown is at his peak we should hopefully have a contending team.
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well then, if the goal is to land talent via the draft, you dump all the older players and leave a shitty team. If Simons is the guy you don't add somebody like Brown. You dump Dame and Hart and Nurkic and any other veteran that might add pointless wins, and you dump them for draft picks

Simons + Brown might not get you into the playoffs but it's unlikely to get you any top-10 picks and that's what you want

if Boston would trade Brown + filler + lotsa picks for Dame (they wouldn't), you reroute Brown to another team for lotsa more picks. That at least would make a little sense to me. Flipping Dame for lesser players on long contracts doesn't...at all
 
We're not trading Dame in the offseason. Just stop. Use common sense.
 
Strenuus said:
We're not trading Dame in the offseason. Just stop. Use common sense.
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Of course we are not. But we will also not win a championship while Dame is here, so I understand those that want to get as much as possible while he is at the height of his value to try to make a better run next time.
 
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