Around the NBA - August 2017 Edition

[illmatic99]

Man, I miss Rice. Guy still has so much passion and energy.



bwahahah he gives out his email address. mikewildrice@gmail.com

 

[UncleCliffy'sDaddy]

If the opportunity to have his own corn maze doesn't get Carmelo to drop his NTC and come to Portland, he doesn't deserve to be here.......

 

[dviss1]

Looks like CLE is interested in Porzingis. Doesn't mean they'll get him though.

 

[Boob-No-More]

Looks like CLE is interested in Porzingis. Doesn't mean they'll get him though.

He's the least likely Knick to be traded. He just turned 22 this month and is the core of their rebuilding effort. He has posted better stats than Dirk did at the same age. His shooting is similar to Dirk's at the same age, but he's a much better rebouder and shot blocker than Dirk ever was. He's pretty much the perfect big man for today's NBA.

BNM

 

[dviss1]

He's the least likely Knick to be traded. He just turned 22 this month and is the core of their rebuilding effort. He has posted better stats than Dirk did at the same age. His shooting is similar to Dirk's at the same age, but he's a much better rebouder and shot blocker than Dirk ever was. He's pretty much the perfect big man for today's NBA.

BNM

Yup. MUCH more athletic than Dirk too.

 

[Boob-No-More]

Yup. MUCH more athletic than Dirk too.

Bonus points for posting a video of someone dunking on Aldridge!

BNM

 

[dviss1]

Bonus points for posting a video of someone dunking on Aldridge!

BNM

That's the only reason why I want Porzingis.

 

[AFully22]

The Cavs and Spurs talking a Kyrie trade is intriguing. Would have to think one of the pieces the Spurs send over would be LA, making Love available (most likely in a Melo trade).

The Spurs getting Kyrie just as TP hits retirement blows for everyone in the West but you would have to think we would be first in line to facilitate the second domino falling in sending Melo to Cle.

Is netting Kevin Love for the foreseeable future worth hoping Kyrie gets traded to the Spurs? Call me crazy but a Kawhi and Kyrie led Spurs team doesn't scare me like the 2003-2014 teams did.

 

[Minstrel]

Is netting Kevin Love for the foreseeable future worth hoping Kyrie gets traded to the Spurs? Call me crazy but a Kawhi and Kyrie led Spurs team doesn't scare me like the 2003-2014 teams did.

I kinda want Aldridge and the Spurs stuck with each other. I think Love is a solid player, but if neither Swanigan nor Collins can take over the position in the next year/year and a half and be a good starter (for a lot less), that's pretty bad news.

 

[AFully22]

I kinda want Aldridge and the Spurs stuck with each other. I think Love is a solid player, but if neither Swanigan nor Collins can take over the position in the next year/year and a half and be a good starter (for a lot less), that's pretty bad news.

Interesting. I guess we have very different expectations for our recent draft picks. I don't see either of them contributing to the level Kevin Love could.

 

[Minstrel]

Interesting. I guess we have very different expectations for our recent draft picks. I don't see either of them contributing to the level Kevin Love could.

I don't think either will be a prime Kevin Love, but 75-80% of his production at a fraction of the cost I think is a reasonable expectation for the #10 pick in a loaded draft, with Swanigan a second bite at the apple who's performed well early.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Tony Allen wouldn't work with Evan Turner. They'd be unable to share the court together.

I am willing to make the huge sacrifice of having Evan Turner sit.

 

[BonesJones]

I am willing to make the huge sacrifice of having Evan Turner sit.

Who's that 2nd wing off the bench then?

 

[Reep]

Who's that 2nd wing off the bench then?

Layman.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Who's that 2nd wing off the bench then?

 

[dviss1]

His forearm was at the rim tho...

 

[Pinwheel1]

Tony Allen's game has slipped quite a bit. He played like a 35 year old man last year. Don't really want to see how he plays when he is 36.

 

[THE HCP]

I kinda want Aldridge and the Spurs stuck with each other. I think Love is a solid player, but if neither Swanigan nor Collins can take over the position in the next year/year and a half and be a good starter (for a lot less), that's pretty bad news.

LA and Spurs "stuck" with each other? You realize they are going to still win 65 games again this year. I wouldn't mind being "stuck" with that type of PF.

 

[Minstrel]

LA and Spurs "stuck" with each other? You realize they are going to still win 65 games again this year. I wouldn't mind being "stuck" with that type of PF.

I'll take the under on 65 games, and I'm a Spurs believer. And Aldridge has slipped quite a lot. I'd take a prime Aldridge, but the current Aldridge is paid well more than he's worth. There's a reason the Spurs were reportedly hoping to find a new home for him (prior to the Kyrie Irving development).

 

[dviss1]

LA and Spurs "stuck" with each other? You realize they are going to still win 65 games again this year. I wouldn't mind being "stuck" with that type of PF.

Yeah, he sure stuck it to us...

And no, they're not winning even 60 games this season.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

The Cavs and Spurs talking a Kyrie trade is intriguing. Would have to think one of the pieces the Spurs send over would be LA, making Love available (most likely in a Melo trade).

The Spurs getting Kyrie just as TP hits retirement blows for everyone in the West but you would have to think we would be first in line to facilitate the second domino falling in sending Melo to Cle.

Is netting Kevin Love for the foreseeable future worth hoping Kyrie gets traded to the Spurs? Call me crazy but a Kawhi and Kyrie led Spurs team doesn't scare me like the 2003-2014 teams did.

 

[Driew]

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If the Spurs get Kyrie fucking Irving for LA I'm quitting basketball lol.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

If the Spurs get Kyrie fucking Irving for LA I'm quitting basketball lol.

Allegedly (per Woj, so it's basically fact), the Cavs are finding that the market for Kyrie is much cooler than they expected. LA may well be the best return they're gonna get for him.

 

[lawai'a]

a surplus of very good point guards and a pouty one that thinks the earth is flat. not surprised.

 

[Minstrel]

Allegedly (per Woj, so it's basically fact), the Cavs are finding that the market for Kyrie is much cooler than they expected. LA may well be the best return they're gonna get for him.

I still think that eventually Phoenix ends up the trade partner. Cleveland apparently wants Bledsoe, Josh Jackson and the 1-7 protected pick from Miami in 2018. Phoenix wants to send Bledsoe, Bender and Miami's unprotected 2021 first-round pick.

That's a significant value gap, but not an insurmountable one, IMO. I think they'll find a package to agree on.

 

[dviss1]

I still think that eventually Phoenix ends up the trade partner. Cleveland apparently wants Bledsoe, Josh Jackson and the 1-7 protected pick from Miami in 2018. Phoenix wants to send Bledsoe, Bender and Miami's unprotected 2021 first-round pick.

That's a significant value gap, but not an insurmountable one, IMO. I think they'll find a package to agree on.

I wouldn't trade Josh Jackson for Kyrie. Fuck that.

 

[Minstrel]

I wouldn't trade Josh Jackson for Kyrie. Fuck that.

I don't know how valuable Jackson will be if he doesn't learn to shoot. He can still be good if he fulfills his defensive potential and proves to be a good slasher, but stardom would be difficult without a good outside shot (unless he becomes Giannis, but there's only one Giannis). There is a decent amount of risk with him, IMO.

 

[AFully22]

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I don't think NYK has any need for Love during their youth movement. I think the general assumption is that they would prefer a package of Moe, Vonleh, Ed, and picks over a soon to be 30 yr old Love. At least that's what I'm hoping.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

I don't think NYK has any need for Love during their youth movement. I think the general assumption is that they would prefer a package of Moe, Vonleh, Ed, and picks over a soon to be 30 yr old Love. At least that's what I'm hoping.

So, this?

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ycp2zgjj

 

[AFully22]

So, this?

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ycp2zgjj

Yea pretty much, with maybe some different filler pieces involved and of course picks.