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KingSpeed said:
For basketball. We picked a guy in second round and developed him and made him into a good player. We had to keep him. Or why draft anyone if you're gonna always let them go elsewhere when they begin to reach their potential?
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I guess we have different definitions of good player
 
TBpup said:
^^^ That would be great but in games where he will only take 2-3 shots, it's tough to hit that many '3's. If he isn't hot, he doesn't continue to shoot.
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We can't let there be games where he only takes 2-3 shots.
 
Nene to stay with Rockets. I think his injury cost them series with Spurs.
 
KingSpeed said:
third best three point shooter in NBA, ever-improving defender, and still young
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And i would trade him for cash considerations.

Look he is a good shooter, but he cant create shit for himself, and i used to think he could play defense because he has the build of a good defender but he is pretty bad at d.

He has potential i guess, but he isn't worth anywhere near what he is paid.
 
KingSpeed said:
For basketball. We picked a guy in second round and developed him and made him into a good player. We had to keep him.
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No we didn't. It's not like Allen Crabbe is the key to our future. His production can easily be replaced by guys making less money (as evidence by many of today's signings).

KingSpeed said:
Or why draft anyone if you're gonna always let them go elsewhere when they begin to reach their potential?
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Once does not equal always.

Rather than overpaying them because someone else forced your hand, it's better to let them go and use the roster spot and salary on players that are actually worth the money than are paid. Overpaying for underperfoming players is not a sound long term (or even a very good short term) strategy.

BNM
 
Boob-No-More said:
No we didn't. It's not like Allen Crabbe is the key to our future. His production can easily be replaced by guys making less money (as evidence by many of today's signings).



Once does not equal always.

Rather than overpaying them because someone else forced your hand, it's better to let them go and use the roster spot and salary on players that are actually worth the money than are paid. Overpaying for underperfoming players is not a sound long term (or even a very good short term) strategy.

BNM
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Let's see how A) Crabbe continues to develop or B) what he gets us in a trade.
 
Boob-No-More said:
That makes more sense - and is still a much better contract than Crabbe's.

BNM
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That makes more sense? isn't it exactly what I said it was? I never said Teague wasn't good I just said I thought salaries were supposed to not be as crazy as last year....since the cap went down.
Or did it go up?
 
KingSpeed said:
third best three point shooter in NBA
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He's not the third-best three-point shooter in the NBA. Curry, Klay, Lillard, McCollum are all better than him, among many others. What you mean to say is that he had the third-highest three-point percentage in the NBA, and relating that to his standing among three-point shooters in the NBA is akin to arguing that the quarterback with the third-highest completion percentage is the third most accurate quarterback in the NFL, even if he's a backup who throws very few passes and mostly short ones.

Without elite abilities to shoot off the dribble or shoot with a hand in your face, you aren't anywhere close to the third-best three-point shooter in this era.
 
KingSpeed said:
Let's see how A) Crabbe continues to develop or B) he gets us in a trade.
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I'd be happy with either seeing him improve, or getting something in value in return, but I'm not optimistic on either count.

He's been in the league for four years now and hasn't added one new skill. He's just a little better at the one, and only skill, he's always had.

BNM
 
KingSpeed said:
Let's see how A) Crabbe continues to develop or B) he gets us in a trade.
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He's been in the league for four years with a pretty defined skill set. All he did was just get himself in better shape and bring his game to an NBA level. What is he gonna do.... turn into a lock down defender in a couple of months?
 
Pinwheel1 said:
That makes more sense? isn't it exactly what I said it was? I never said Teague wasn't good I just said I thought salaries were supposed to not be as crazy as last year....since the cap went down.
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The cap went up. It was revised down recently from a previous figure, but both the old and new figures are higher than last year's cap. Also, salaries aren't as crazy as last year. Teague making as much as Crabbe is a sign of sanity this year, as opposed to last year. The only thing escalating this year are max contracts, since super-maxes have gone up.
 
Boob-No-More said:
I'd be happy with either seeing him improve, or getting something in value in return, but I'm not optimistic on either count.

He's been in the league for four years now and hasn't added one new skill. He's just a little better at the one, and only skill, he's always had.

BNM
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He's good at picking off some passes and getting some fast break dunks.
 
I'm not "happy" to keep Crabbe but I don't want to move him for nothing. I'v got faith he has a much better year next year or at least keeps up his insane 3p shooting and we can get a decent deal for him.
 
Crabbe doesn't bother me. If we didn't match, we were already over the cap and couldn't sign anyone else. He's young, he's a great shooter, and still has upside. If we trade him, I won't cry a tear but I'm happy with him on our team as is.
 
Thing about Crabbe this off season is that he is rehabbing. So that not going to help his developing this coming season.
 
Pinwheel1 said:
That makes more sense? isn't it exactly what I said it was? I never said Teague wasn't good I just said I thought salaries were supposed to not be as crazy as last year....since the cap went down.
Or did it go up?
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The cap went up by a little over $5 million.

$19 million a year for a starter that averaged 15.3/4.0/7.8 with a PER = 19.2 is much less crazy and than $19 million a year for a bench player who averaged 10.7/2.9/1.2 with a PER = 11.6.

BNM
 
Somehow I can see Neil saying "we are happy with the players we have" in a future press conference. Unless he finds somebody really desperate and pulls a rabbit out of a hat, I just don't see us having a ton of movable assets right now.
 
By the way, why did Wolves sign Teague? He didn't improve Indiana at all last year and the Wolves already have Rubio. Feels like a waste.
 
Surprisingly quiet start of free agency compared to years past. I know nothing is official till Thursday but still.

I think Olshey is playing the Tortoise and the hair a bit and for good reason, even the Warriors are starting to be concerned about $ and they project out to be way over the cap with just 4 players under contract. Meanwhile other teams are making knee jerk decisions trying to compete with GSW. Like all teams they will disassemble at some point, like the Lebron Heat it's hard to field a team with zero money to offer to the other 11 guys on the roster.
 
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