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Two good matchups coming up in ORL. Knicks vs Mavs, battle of the pgs. Followed by OKC vs DET, can't wait to watch my boy 2K get his first NBA action.
 
Natebishop3 said:
I think the most damning thing about Monroe is that his stats are actually very good, but nobody wants to keep him.

They didn't play him a ton last year, only 22.5 minutes per game, but his per 36 was 18.8 ppg, 10.5 rebounds, 3.7 assists, 1.8 steals, while shooting 53.3% from the floor. His PER was 21.1

So for a team to want to continually dump the guy...... that's not a good sign.
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Has Monroe opted into the final year (player option) of his contract for 2017-18? MIL can't trade him if he hasn't, unless they are looking to do some kind of sign (extension) and trade. That, I would not be interested in.

In the past Monroe wanted to be "The Man" get his touches and not play defense, which earned him a deserved reputation as a selfish player. However, last year he accepted the 6th man role and played surprising well on both sides of the ball. He's always been able to score, but last year his advanced metrics on defense were excellent. In spite of his bad reputation, he came in 6th in Sixth Man of the Year voting - and deserved it.

We just stocked our cupboard with young bigs, so we don't really have a spot for Monroe. Still, unless we can get something better for them, I'd consider a consolidation trade of Meyers + Ed Davis for Greg Monroe. Monroe is clearly better than either player and it gets us out of Meyers contract. This assumes Monroe opts in to the final year of his contract - in which case he'd be a one year rental. Given all the young bigs we have (Nurk, Collins, Vonleh, Swanigan), I'd be perfectly fine with letting Monroe walk after one season if it lets us unload Meyers and his contract.

BNM
 
Boob-No-More said:
Has Monroe opted into the final year (player option) of his contract for 2017-18? MIL can't trade him if he hasn't, unless they are looking to do some kind of sign (extension) and trade. That, I would not be interested in.

In the past Monroe wanted to be "The Man" get his touches and not play defense, which earned him a deserved reputation as a selfish player. However, last year he accepted the 6th man role and played surprising well on both sides of the ball. He's always been able to score, but last year his advanced metrics on defense were excellent. In spite of his bad reputation, he came in 6th in Sixth Man of the Year voting - and deserved it.

We just stocked our cupboard with young bigs, so we don't really have a spot for Monroe. Still, unless we can get something better for them, I'd consider a consolidation trade of Meyers + Ed Davis for Greg Monroe. Monroe is clearly better than either player and it gets us out of Meyers contract. This assumes Monroe opts in to the final year of his contract - in which case he'd be a one year rental. Given all the young bigs we have (Nurk, Collins, Vonleh, Swanigan), I'd be perfectly fine with letting Monroe walk after one season if it lets us unload Meyers and his contract.

BNM
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I would do Davis/Meyers for Monroe in a heartbeat.
 
Looks like the Blazers arent going to make any more moves until the deadline. Im actually ok with that. On one hand it sucks watching other teams collect players, see trades go down, hear stuff about every other team, and not hear anything about the Blazers, but on the other hand it might be a good thing to see what our guys have got. With a healthy Nurkic and Davis, with a year behind Turner, maybe Crabbe will finally have his best year, who the hell knows. Its exciting.
 
Natebishop3 said:
I would do Davis/Meyers for Monroe in a heartbeat.
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I would too, but only if Monroe opts into the final year ($17.9 million) of his current contract, not if this is some sort of sign and trade that involves a bloated 4-year extension for Monroe.

BTW, I was surprised to see that Monroe is the same age as Dame. Seems like that dude has been around forever.

BNM
 
Boob-No-More said:
Has Monroe opted into the final year (player option) of his contract for 2017-18? MIL can't trade him if he hasn't, unless they are looking to do some kind of sign (extension) and trade. That, I would not be interested in.

In the past Monroe wanted to be "The Man" get his touches and not play defense, which earned him a deserved reputation as a selfish player. However, last year he accepted the 6th man role and played surprising well on both sides of the ball. He's always been able to score, but last year his advanced metrics on defense were excellent. In spite of his bad reputation, he came in 6th in Sixth Man of the Year voting - and deserved it.

We just stocked our cupboard with young bigs, so we don't really have a spot for Monroe. Still, unless we can get something better for them, I'd consider a consolidation trade of Meyers + Ed Davis for Greg Monroe. Monroe is clearly better than either player and it gets us out of Meyers contract. This assumes Monroe opts in to the final year of his contract - in which case he'd be a one year rental. Given all the young bigs we have (Nurk, Collins, Vonleh, Swanigan), I'd be perfectly fine with letting Monroe walk after one season if it lets us unload Meyers and his contract.

BNM
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He opted in
 
dviss1 said:
Not necessarily. Boston's offer was the best that was reported. Ours was 2nd out of the reported offers. Then KP did what he did. That IMO reinforces the "Portland grudge".
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We made an actual reported offer? I missed that, what was it?
 
Chris Craig said:
Looks like the Blazers arent going to make any more moves until the deadline. Im actually ok with that. On one hand it sucks watching other teams collect players, see trades go down, hear stuff about every other team, and not hear anything about the Blazers, but on the other hand it might be a good thing to see what our guys have got. With a healthy Nurkic and Davis, with a year behind Turner, maybe Crabbe will finally have his best year, who the hell knows. Its exciting.
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I think we should petition the league to re-align the conferences and put us in the East. We can just pretend we are from Portland, Maine - a common mistake, and hope no one notices. We already travel far more than any other team in the league and with the Great Western Talent Migration, we'd easily be a top 4 tea, in the East.

A year from now, when LeBron heads to the Lakers, if our young guys improve, we could challenge for the top spot in the East for the next several years. We could have a nice run of 5 or 6 finals appearances in a row. Let all the good teams fight it out in the West and hope you catch an injury break or two in the finals the way CLE did last year.

BNM
 
Chris Craig said:
He opted in
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Coo, then I'd definitely be down with Meyers + Ed for Monroe.

Would MIL do it? They seem to want to move Monroe, but do they think a change of scenery is enough to make Meyers useful. Spencer Hawes just opted in to the final year of his contract. How many slow footed, perimeter playing 7' white guys do they need?

BNM
 
Boob-No-More said:
Has Monroe opted into the final year (player option) of his contract for 2017-18? MIL can't trade him if he hasn't, unless they are looking to do some kind of sign (extension) and trade. That, I would not be interested in.

In the past Monroe wanted to be "The Man" get his touches and not play defense, which earned him a deserved reputation as a selfish player. However, last year he accepted the 6th man role and played surprising well on both sides of the ball. He's always been able to score, but last year his advanced metrics on defense were excellent. In spite of his bad reputation, he came in 6th in Sixth Man of the Year voting - and deserved it.

We just stocked our cupboard with young bigs, so we don't really have a spot for Monroe. Still, unless we can get something better for them, I'd consider a consolidation trade of Meyers + Ed Davis for Greg Monroe. Monroe is clearly better than either player and it gets us out of Meyers contract. This assumes Monroe opts in to the final year of his contract - in which case he'd be a one year rental. Given all the young bigs we have (Nurk, Collins, Vonleh, Swanigan), I'd be perfectly fine with letting Monroe walk after one season if it lets us unload Meyers and his contract.

BNM
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I believe Monroe had opted in like 10 days ago.
 
I'd definitely take Monroe as a rental to move some contracts and hold down the 4 spot for the season in hopes that Collins/Swanigan is really to start the next season.
 
So much for a battle of the pgs. No smith of nitilkina
 
Boob-No-More said:
I would too, but only if Monroe opts into the final year ($17.9 million) of his current contract, not if this is some sort of sign and trade that involves a bloated 4-year extension for Monroe.

BTW, I was surprised to see that Monroe is the same age as Dame. Seems like that dude has been around forever.

BNM
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my guess is Milwaukee is looking for the same thing we are looking for with Crabbe......meaning no contracts back. Or at least reducing their salary enough to get under the cap. But yeah I would take that deal too.

Also a Monroe for Crabbe swap would not be horrible from a luxury tax standpoint next July
 
Pinwheel1 said:
my guess is Milwaukee is looking for the same thing we are looking for with Crabbe......meaning no contracts back. Or at least reducing their salary enough to get under the cap. But yeah I would take that deal too.

Also a Monroe for Crabbe swap would not be horrible from a luxury tax standpoint next July
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The Bucks are currently over the cap but under the tax threshold. However, they only have 13 players under contract. So, they may want to dump some salary to add a couple players while still staying under the tax threshold.

That seems to be their motivation in moving Monroe and, if that's the case, they probably won't want to take back Crabbe and his contract in return, especially since they just re-signed Tony Snell and have Brogdon and Middleton. All three of those guys shot > .400 from 3FG and actually play some defense. I can't imagine why they would want Crabbe.

BNM
 
Natebishop3 said:
Supposedly pick(s) and a player. No mention of which picks or which player.

I'm guessing Crabbe and maybe the 15th and 20th?
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Okay, so I didn't miss anything. dviss1, how does that rank as the 2nd best package when there are no specifics?
 
handiman said:
Okay, so I didn't miss anything. dviss1, how does that rank as the 2nd best package when there are no specifics?
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If it was Crabbe and, say, the 10th pick (once we traded 15 and 20) would that be better than Sabonis and Oladipo? I don't know..... I'm not really a fan of Dipo. I think he's going to be very overpaid. If I was Indy I would have prefered to get picks. They seem to draft well... or they did. Not sure how well KP/Buchanan will do. Buchanan has NOT had a great track record of drafting.
 
Natebishop3 said:
If it was Crabbe and, say, the 10th pick (once we traded 15 and 20) would that be better than Sabonis and Oladipo? I don't know..... I'm not really a fan of Dipo. I think he's going to be very overpaid. If I was Indy I would have prefered to get picks. They seem to draft well... or they did. Not sure how well KP/Buchanan will do. Buchanan has NOT had a great track record of drafting.
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I'd rather have Oladipo than Crabbe. I'd rather have the 10th pick than Sabonis. Which deal is better depends on your evaluation of Sabonis. He had a truly awful rookie season, but he was reasonably well-regarded as a prospect. If you still like his talent and you, like me, prefer Oladipo to Crabbe, then you could prefer the Thunder package.

And that assumes Olshey offered both picks. If he offered only one (especially if it was the 20), then it tilts more towards the Thunder package.
 
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