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He can control how he responds to his father. He could ask his dad to chill. Nahhh.

No he can't. You can't control another person by just saying it. I mean, unless you want to take away peoples' free will, and that's just not cool.
 
No he can't. You can't control another person by just saying it. I mean, unless you want to take away peoples' free will, and that's just not cool.
You can respond to it though. He couldn't say "dad, can you chill out?" Is that physically impossible because of free will?
 
I disappear all the time. So again you have no proof just what you make up?

This is not a good way to form an opinion.
Lmao. Doug was a constant poster and disappeared months ago right after that. He said that BS somewhat spoiled the forum for him.
 
You can respond to it though. He couldn't say "dad, can you chill out?" Is that physically impossible because of free will?

The free will isn't on his part.

lol.

Also, you assume a lot that no one knows.
 
I am so sorry. Kobe is known as a laker. He should never be liked here.
Yet we have more people defending Lonzo lmao. If you're defending Lonzo you shouldve been on HCPs side when it came to Kobe.
 
The free will isn't on his part.

lol.

Also, you assume a lot that no one knows.
It isn't, but he could say something. The dude is letting his dad take advantage of his career. It's weak.
 
Yet we have more people defending Lonzo lmao. If you're defending Lonzo you shouldve been on HCPs side when it came to Kobe.
I hate Kobe but from 2000-2011 he was the face of the NBA (LeBron may have been the bigger draw though once he established himself as a top 5 player).
 
It isn't, but he could say something. The dude is letting his dad take advantage of his career. It's weak.

Is he? Or did he try to fix it and dad shut him down?

We don't know. Ambiguity doesn't mean we get to assume.
 
Yet we have more people defending Lonzo lmao. If you're defending Lonzo you shouldve been on HCPs side when it came to Kobe.

I'm defending a kid who's being attacked because of his father. IDGAF what team he plays for. Calling you out on it is a touchy subject for you and has you scrambling to find reasons that aren't attributed to his father.

You can't find them and seem to be making them up. You base his "smug, cockiness" off of his sub par raps but give no other indication as to where you've garnered your unfounded opinion.

In Drumpf's words:

SAD.
 
I'm defending a kid who's being attacked because of his father. IDGAF what team he plays for. Calling you out on it is a touchy subject for you and has you scrambling to find reasons that aren't attributed to his father.

You can't find them and seem to be making them up. You base his "smug, cockiness" off of his sub par raps but give no other indication as to where you've garnered unfounded opinion.

In Drumpf's words:

SAD.
I base his smug cockiness based off his "IDGAF" attitude in interviews. Just because you have a different opinion and view things a different way doesnt mean shit. For fucks sake.
 
Yeah. The thing with Kobe was he was actually good.
Lonzo may still be a good player though. I personally don't see greatness from him but he will likely have a 10+ year career. He is good in transition, has nice vision, and when he penetrates good things generally happen. However he will have to be hidden on defense, and for being a #2 overall pick at the guard spot he doesn't possess that takeover a game ability. That's his biggest flaw, he is not going to be able to win you games in an ISO situation in the NBA.
 
Lonzo may still be a good player though. I personally don't see greatness from him but he will likely have a 10+ year career. He is good in transition, has nice vision, and when he penetrates good things generally happen. However he will have to be hidden on defense, and for being a #2 overall pick at the guard spot he doesn't possess that takeover a game ability. That's his biggest flaw, he is not going to be able to win you games in an ISO situation in the NBA.

And he's a laker.
 
Lonzo may still be a good player though. I personally don't see greatness from him but he will likely have a 10+ year career. He is good in transition, has nice vision, and when he penetrates good things generally happen. However he will have to be hidden on defense, and for being a #2 overall pick at the guard spot he doesn't possess that takeover a game ability. That's his biggest flaw, he is not going to be able to win you games in an ISO situation in the NBA.
Yeah, the context of good was more Kobe's level than Ricky Rubios level.
 
What smug cockiness? :dunno:

You are manufacturing this. Again, I've never seen it and until you prove it, it's just you saying it. And again, don't post any video of him rapping.

So you haven't proved your point. You've only proved that you don't like him for a reason that you should be attributing to his father, not him. Show me one "cocky" interview.

I guess you can't stand Nurk then either. If anyone is cocky it's him. CJ's pretty cocky. He has a whole victims unit that you LOVE but he's not being smug and cocky? Evan Turner is MUCH cockier than most NBA players. Crickets...

You're reaching, trying to find something that's not there.

I love when Blazers' players are cocky, but the other teams players can go fuck themselve if they are !

Lmao. Doug was a constant poster and disappeared months ago right after that. He said that BS somewhat spoiled the forum for him.

Honestly if HCP of all people can make you quit the forum, you're probably better off limiting your interactions with strangers on the internet anway...
 
Lonzo may still be a good player though. I personally don't see greatness from him but he will likely have a 10+ year career. He is good in transition, has nice vision, and when he penetrates good things generally happen. However he will have to be hidden on defense, and for being a #2 overall pick at the guard spot he doesn't possess that takeover a game ability. That's his biggest flaw, he is not going to be able to win you games in an ISO situation in the NBA.

I agree. He is at least a good NBA player with many years of service. If he can get stronger, develop a better shot and handles - he could be great. I would still bet that the best rookie "PG" from this class is not going to be Lonzo. My early guess is Simmons - he really has the chance to be great.
 
Lonzo may still be a good player though. I personally don't see greatness from him but he will likely have a 10+ year career. He is good in transition, has nice vision, and when he penetrates good things generally happen. However he will have to be hidden on defense, and for being a #2 overall pick at the guard spot he doesn't possess that takeover a game ability. That's his biggest flaw, he is not going to be able to win you games in an ISO situation in the NBA.

See how easy this is? It's not hard. Talking about his cockiness is pretty damn hilarious IMO.
 
I agree. He is at least a good NBA player with many years of service. If he can get stronger, develop a better shot and handles - he could be great. I would still bet that the best rookie "PG" from this class is not going to be Lonzo. My early guess is Simmons - he really has the chance to be great.

I like Fox.
 
I like Fox.

He will be good as well. Prototypical NBA build mostly (other than really long reach) - Simmons is huge however for a PG. More of a Magic / LeBron like build - which could make him special.
 
Just stop making stuff up. That's all I'm saying. You have no clue as to why Doug has been inactive but yet to fit your narrative you'll blame @HCP.
IJS, if you say something, have proof. Don't use conjecture.
I didn't make it up. Why the fuck do I have to prove to you something I know? You assume I'm making shit up which is funny, because I know more about it than you do. But apparently it has to be proven to the allmighty Dviss1 or its not true. Get off your high horse so HCP can kill it then beat it.
 
I didn't make it up. Why the fuck do I have to prove to you something I know? You assume I'm making shit up which is funny, because I know more about it than you do. But apparently it has to be proven to the allmighty Dviss1 or its not true. Get off your high horse so HCP can kill it then beat it.

You don't have to prove anything. But the bottom line is you come in here and spout a lot of unfounded shit.

I'm just saying don't do that unless you want to be called on it.
 
But apparently it has to be proven to the allmighty Dviss1 or its not true. Get off your high horse so HCP can kill it then beat it.

Who's being smug now? I just asked for proof of your assertions and apparently you can't provide it.
 
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