Event Around the NBA: Oh hell, it's December 2025! (1 Viewer)

[Cugel]

What about equal odds for bottom 14?pull em out of a hat.

 

[wizenheimer]

You think teams would opt out of playoff basketball to get an 8% chance at moving up in the draft???

yes, I do. 8% odds of a #1 pick are better than 1% odds of making the playoffs and advancing past the 1st round

my opinion: there is no taking problem...who gives a shit if a crappy team loses 61 games instead of 55?

 

[blazerkor]

yes, I do. 8% odds of a #1 pick are better than 1% odds of making the playoffs and advancing past the 1st round

my opinion: there is no taking problem...who gives a shit if a crappy team loses 61 games instead of 55?

I'm totally on board with that last part. I think everyone should shut the fuck up about tanking, it's a part of this league and the most popular sporting league in the nation (NFL). People should just deal with it.

I was just responding to Silver talking about doing something to go after it. In my opinion there is no policing it, you either shut up about it or change the draft model in some way that nullifies it. My preference would be to do what you said and forget about it.

 

[andalusian]

my opinion: there is no taking problem...who gives a shit if a crappy team loses 61 games instead of 55?

I would say the people who bought tickets for the game hoping to see their team’s favorite players care.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

I would say the people who bought tickets for the game hoping to see their team’s favorite players care.

Exactly. It's not about how many games the bad teams lose; it's about how many games the bad teams actually try to win.

 

[wizenheimer]

I would say the people who bought tickets for the game hoping to see their team’s favorite players care.

how many people have actually done that?

I mean, in 2024, during the 2023-24 season, how many people bought tickets for Blazer games at the Moda hoping to see Anfernee Simons and ended up disappointed he didn't play toward the end of the season; hell, maybe him out was a bonus for fans

even casual fans know that shitty teams will start subtle and vague tanks after the trade deadline that turn into blatant tanks by mid-March. That's like groundhog day. Any fan of one of the bottom 8 or 9 teams in the league right now shopping for tickets next year should know the odds are high they would be buying into a tank. If they aren't that smart, then it's a case of fools and their money soon parted

a much bigger 'problem' than tanking by bad teams is good teams utilizing rest days for star players during the season.

 

[wizenheimer]

Exactly. It's not about how many games the bad teams lose; it's about how many games the bad teams actually try to win.

last season, when the Blazers were trying to win all year, they averaged 17,545 attendance. The year before, in undoubtedly Portland's most blatant tank job ever, they averaged 18,326 attendance. So this isn't about fans getting hosed. 781 more Blazer fans a game showed up for a 21 win team than a 36 win team

this is about some vague notion of the ethics a franchise should have. But just maybe the most solid ethic for a lottery team is to do everything they can to generate a better product on the floor in the future; and for most teams that means higher draft picks

I just keep seeing suggested solutions to a problem that really doesn't exist. And I have yet to see a solution that is actually better than the existing system

 

[BigGameDamian]

 

[Rastapopoulos]

https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/s/kiL0GfHvzF

 

[andalusian]

how many people have actually done that?

That's a fucking great slogan. "Most of you shouldn't care we eff you."

 

[wizenheimer]

That's a fucking great slogan. "Most of you shouldn't care we eff you."

welcome to income tax

 

[BigGameDamian]

 

[KingSpeed]

How about this? Bottom 3 don’t get a pick. That simple. Or all 30 teams make the playoffs,

 

[KingSpeed]

Oh and every player and coach in the league gets an end of season bonus except for the players and coaches on the bottom 3 teams. Give the GM a bonus too.

 

[blazerkor]

How about this? Bottom 3 don’t get a pick. That simple. Or all 30 teams make the playoffs,

This is a short sighted solution that definitely would get rid of tanking and the moment it does you have the actual three worst teams in the league without any pick in the first round. Seems like this is just asking to have certain fanbases check out for decades at a time.

 

[BigGameDamian]

 

[Everything Beagle]

Oh and every player and coach in the league gets an end of season bonus except for the players and coaches on the bottom 3 teams. Give the GM a bonus too.

Only exclude the two finals teams from the lottery, and make the odds equal. Fuck it. I want to see a team try to tank in the conference finals.

 

[SheedSoNasty]

Pay the winning team of every game extra. Make guaranteed contracts less than what they are now but incentivize winning to get paid more.

You’d have to stop allowing players to dictate where they want to be traded to or it would create an even bigger imbalance of haves and have nots. It’ll never happen, nut just a thought.

 

[Sheldon Shape]

Jesus Christ what have we done...

 

[BigGameDamian]

 

[SheedSoNasty]

Jesus Christ what have we done...

You mean blew another draft?

 

[THE HCP]

 

[THE HCP]

Jesus Christ what have we done...

Is this the same player EVERYBODY murdered Joe Dumars for trading for……EVERYBODY!?

 

[wizenheimer]

Is this the same player EVERYBODY murdered Joe Dumars for trading for……EVERYBODY!?

it wasn't what he traded for. It's what he traded away

 

[THE HCP]

it wasn't what he traded for. It's what he traded away

Exactly. He was murdered for the transaction. I don’t believe there was a single positive reaction to it right?

 

[BigGameDamian]

 

[BigGameDamian]

 

[THE HCP]

Facts…..

 

[wizenheimer]

Exactly. He was murdered for the transaction. I don’t believe there was a single positive reaction to it right?

probably not...and there shouldn't have been. Queen's play has upgraded the trade from 'stupid-fucking-disaster' to 'dumb-fucking-disaster', but it's got miles to go before it just becomes plain stupid. That's especially true if the Hawks end up drafting Cameron Boozer, Darryn Peterson, or AJ Dybantsa with the Pels pick (or any future superstar)

and since the reporting is that the Pels were shopping for Queen, hard, and talking to teams from at least #10-#13 in the draft, Portland taking Yang when they could have had that Pels unprotected 2026 pick makes it so Dumars wasn't the only lamebrain GM in the 2025 draft

 

[SlyPokerDog]

The fewer games on Blazer Broadcasting, the more the ratings go up. Coincidence?