Event Around the NBA: Oh hell, it's December 2025!

[PDXFonz]

Maybe Ive been living under a rock, but did Yall know that Jerami Grant has a brother Jerian Grant which plays for Greek club Panathinaikos in Europe?

Currently facing Wade Baldwin and Fenerbahce in Euroleague.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Maybe Ive been living under a rock, but did Yall know that Jerami Grant has a brother Jerian Grant which plays for Greek club Panathinaikos in Europe?

Currently facing Wade Baldwin and Fenerbahce in Euroleague.

Talking of ex-Blazer Wade Baldwin iv, apparently he mentored Sidy when they were teammates

 

[BigGameDamian]

 

[Cugel]

I think SAS will destroy NYN

 

[Rastapopoulos]

I gotta say, it's hard for me to focus when the Blazers aren't playing. I'll watch Jokic and Wemby, but that's about it.

 

[Cugel]

Sounds like Steve Kerr needs change of scenery. Anyone?

 

[PDXFonz]

Wemby is coming off the bench and playing limited minutes again tonight.

 

[Cugel]

Wemby is coming off the bench and playing limited minutes again tonight.

That’s all he needs: 20 min

 

[BigGameDamian]

 

[BigGameDamian]

 

[THE HCP]

Simple test. Has their triple doubles led to a ring on their finger.

Karl Malone, John Stockton, Elgin Baylor, Patrick Ewing and Elgin Baylor on Line 1

Adam Morrison and JR RIder on Line 2

 

[THE HCP]

You already know how this is going.
Bunch of great players didn’t win a ring.

What she said ^

 

[THE HCP]

You already know how this is going.
Bunch of great players didn’t win a ring.

And TONS of shitty ones HAVE! Rings are never a way to judge a players greatness. All star games either.

 

[blazerkor]

Karl Malone, John Stockton, Elgin Baylor, Patrick Ewing and Elgin Baylor on Line 1

Adam Morrison and JR RIder on Line 2

The vast majority of the Big O's triple doubles didn't come on during his prime while he was in Cincinnati and never made the finals. He did get a ring but it wasn't until he was 32 and paired with Kareem in Milwaukee, like a month before Kareem changed his name from Lew Alcindor.

 

[Everything Beagle]

Would you trade RW3 for CP3?

 

[Everything Beagle]

I gotta say, it's hard for me to focus when the Blazers aren't playing. I'll watch Jokic and Wemby, but that's about it.

The NBA is much closer to F1 now than college ball. Every player has his own guys, and then they all meet up to play ball. If you're a modern fan that follows stars, this is perfect. If you root for laundry, it kinda stinks.

 

[KingSpeed]

Maybe Ive been living under a rock, but did Yall know that Jerami Grant has a brother Jerian Grant which plays for Greek club Panathinaikos in Europe?

Currently facing Wade Baldwin and Fenerbahce in Euroleague.

You’ve been living under a rock. He played in the NBA for several years. First round pick in 2015.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

You’ve been living under a rock. He played in the NBA for several years. First round pick in 2015.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Would you trade RW3 for CP3?

Sure - ten years ago.

 

[THE HCP]

Who is this!!??

 

[THE HCP]

 

[THE HCP]

At HALFTIME!!!!^

 

[BigGameDamian]

 

[blazerkor]

If you want to get rid of tanking there is one simple solution. You flip the lottery odds but probably make them less steep.

I would give the teams that make the play in but miss the playoffs the highest chance to get the top four picks by just a little since it's 14 teams out of the playoffs then the odds would be something like 8% for each of the four teams who make the play in but miss the playoffs and then a flat 6.8% for every other lotto team. I would still have the rest of the draft after the top 4 picks go worst record to best.

This incentivizes winning and really provides no incentive to losing. Many will say that this will result in certain teams staying at the bottom of the league for a long time, what I say to that is either stop whining about tanking or be cool with the fact that some teams will get stuck outside of the playoffs for a decade... you can't have it both ways.

 

[Cugel]

If you want to get rid of tanking there is one simple solution. You flip the lottery odds but probably make them less steep.

I would give the teams that make the play in but miss the playoffs the highest chance to get the top four picks by just a little since it's 14 teams out of the playoffs then the odds would be something like 8% for each of the four teams who make the play in but miss the playoffs and then a flat 6.8% for every other lotto team. I would still have the rest of the draft after the top 4 picks go worst record to best.

This incentivizes winning and really provides no incentive to losing. Many will say that this will result in certain teams staying at the bottom of the league for a long time, what I say to that is either stop whining about tanking or be cool with the fact that some teams will get stuck outside of the playoffs for a decade... you can't have it both ways.

Yeah something like that. You need to punish teams that are clearly tanking but how do you prove they are? You need to punish GMs for sucking

 

[JfizzleBlazer]

I don't really get the people that whine about tanking. To me, it just sounds like sour grapes. The lottery is meant to deter tanking. Sure. They can get a higher percentage of a top pick but their percentage for pick 4 or 5 or whatever is still higher than #1.

Add in the fact that players generally don't want to tank if they play and teams can risk losing their fans wanting to attend games which can hurt revenue and it makes me feel like people that whine about tanking are Abe Simpson yelling at random clouds floating by.

 

[blazerkor]

Yeah something like that. You need to punish teams that are clearly tanking but how do you prove they are? You need to punish GMs for sucking

You can't punish for tanking because it's a concept that doesn't have enough contrast with ineptitude. So you just give a little bit of an odds boost to the four teams with the best record in the lotto and give flat odds to every other lotto team. You still let the rest of the draft play out worst to best to give unlucky bad teams a good chance at landing a quality player.

You either do something like this or shut up about how bad tanking is. You definitely don't try and prosecute every perceived instance of tanking because those prosecutions would inevitably be uneven.

Even our team right now is not in a chase for the title this year and I am sure that we are moving guys through injury rehab in a way that is slower or more deliberate than a team that is in win now mode. That's just common sense and not tanking but there is a catch. Every player is dealing with minor nagging injuries so how do you police how fast guys come back from injuries or what injuries are serious enough to sit guys when your team has no illusions of contending?

 

[RR7]

If you want to get rid of tanking there is one simple solution. You flip the lottery odds but probably make them less steep.

I would give the teams that make the play in but miss the playoffs the highest chance to get the top four picks by just a little since it's 14 teams out of the playoffs then the odds would be something like 8% for each of the four teams who make the play in but miss the playoffs and then a flat 6.8% for every other lotto team. I would still have the rest of the draft after the top 4 picks go worst record to best.

This incentivizes winning and really provides no incentive to losing. Many will say that this will result in certain teams staying at the bottom of the league for a long time, what I say to that is either stop whining about tanking or be cool with the fact that some teams will get stuck outside of the playoffs for a decade... you can't have it both ways.

Those play in games will immediately turn to shit. Hmm, play the #1 or 2 seed, or a top 4 pick?

 

[wizenheimer]

You can't punish for tanking because it's a concept that doesn't have enough contrast with ineptitude. So you just give a little bit of an odds boost to the four teams with the best record in the lotto and give flat odds to every other lotto team. You still let the rest of the draft play out worst to best to give unlucky bad teams a good chance at landing a quality player.

You either do something like this or shut up about how bad tanking is. You definitely don't try and prosecute every perceived instance of tanking because those prosecutions would inevitably be uneven.

Even our team right now is not in a chase for the title this year and I am sure that we are moving guys through injury rehab in a way that is slower or more deliberate than a team that is in win now mode. That's just common sense and not tanking but there is a catch. Every player is dealing with minor nagging injuries so how do you police how fast guys come back from injuries or what injuries are serious enough to sit guys when your team has no illusions of contending?

don't agree

all it would do is incentivize tanking by teams in the 8-11 range in conference seeds

 

[blazerkor]

don't agree

all it would do is incentivize tanking by teams in the 8-11 range in conference seeds

You think teams would opt out of playoff basketball to get an 8% chance at moving up in the draft???

I think the only teams it incentivizes are those within a realistic range of the 10 seed that would otherwise be tanking. I said the teams who are the last 4 out would have about a 1.2% advantage over the rest of the lotto of moving into the top 4. I do think that 1.2% would be worth trying for and flattening out the odds for the top 4 picks would definitely decrease or possibly take away completely the incentive to tank.

I don't think may teams would tank for the 5th spot in the draft. I think teams out of the running for the play-in would still sit their vets to get their young players more experience and still rest anyone with any kind of injury but it wouldn't be outright tanking.

Again I highly doubt that a team would forgo a playoff spot (even an 8 seed) to have a small odds advantage in a draft lotto that flat.