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Wow their rebuild was fast. Who is their Gm? I hope when the inevitable post Dame era begins we aren’t in rebuild forever
 
AldoTrapani said:


Wow their rebuild was fast. Who is their Gm? I hope when the inevitable post Dame era begins we aren’t in rebuild forever
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How was there rebuild fast
They haven’t won anything
And they’ll be dog dookie next year

as the Sacramento kings have shown, talent and potential mean nothing
 
Did any other NBA team have to wait a week between their first and 2nd preseason games? Or just the Blazers?
 
Chris Craig said:
Did any other NBA team have to wait a week between their first and 2nd preseason games? Or just the Blazers?
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I don't look at it as "having" to wait I see it as getting time. We got to see our team in a competitive situation and then have another week of camp with film to study and knowing how we were doing with our new system. I think it's a huge benefit and starting Monday we'll be implementing what that week gave us time to put in place.
 
How is that the old Lakers can guard and defend the Warriors and we can’t?
 
THE HCP said:
Do some research kid! That 1 point is what stands between a win and a loss.
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I mean, I don't give a shit, because it's preseason, but we also scored 11 more, so...
 
RR7 said:
I mean, I don't give a shit, because it's preseason, but we also scored 11 more, so...
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I'm messing with you. I always crack up when people go crazy good or bad when it comes to the preseason.
 
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This has been the most boring preseason of all time. What is this schedule?
 
Question that I’d like opinions on:
With the rookie extension coming up, would you give Simons a rookie extension? Imo, 4 years at an average of $14-16m + maybe $2-5m in possible incentives a year where the fourth year is a team option is not a crazy overpay. $14m + $5m incentives would be slightly under 12% higher than Robert Williams’ extension of 4 years at $11m + $6m incentives.

I think Chauncey’s influence on Simons’ playmaking development will be huge. Assuming he improves at getting to the rim and continues to improve at playing NBA defense—if he develops his playmaking to be a backup PG (CJ-level I’d say), he’s essentially a CJ replacement at the starting SG, meaning CJ and eventually Norman can bring back better quality wings/bigs. With Billups as his coach and his natural athletic ability, I see no reason why he can’t get to the CJ-level. Locking him up now at a cheaper-than-Norman price would mean we have him until he is 25 and we don’t have to make a team option decision until he’s 26.
 
BankTeller said:
Question that I’d like opinions on:
With the rookie extension coming up, would you give Simons a rookie extension? Imo, 4 years at an average of $14-16m + maybe $2-5m in possible incentives a year where the fourth year is a team option is not a crazy overpay. $14m + $5m incentives would be slightly under 12% higher than Robert Williams’ extension of 4 years at $11m + $6m incentives.

I think Chauncey’s influence on Simons’ playmaking development will be huge. Assuming he improves at getting to the rim and continues to improve at playing NBA defense—if he develops his playmaking to be a backup PG (CJ-level I’d say), he’s essentially a CJ replacement at the starting SG, meaning CJ and eventually Norman can bring back better quality wings/bigs. With Billups as his coach and his natural athletic ability, I see no reason why he can’t get to the CJ-level. Locking him up now at a cheaper-than-Norman price would mean we have him until he is 25 and we don’t have to make a team option decision until he’s 26.
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Ant isn't a full MLE player right now... maybe he'll be around there by the end of this season but it's important to note that Lou Williams has never made more than 8M in a season. So Chauncey would have to do some real miracle working to make Ant worth more than a four year extension that starts around 7M and ends with a team option near 9.5M.
 
blazerkor said:
Ant isn't a full MLE player right now... maybe he'll be around there by the end of this season but it's important to note that Lou Williams has never made more than 8M in a season. So Chauncey would have to do some real miracle working to make Ant worth more than a four year extension that starts around 7M and ends with a team option near 9.5M.
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I get what you’re saying when comparing Ant and Lou. But there is a big difference between paying Ant $14m a year and paying Lou $14m a year. You know what Lou is at this point in his career and you have to pay for potential. “Maybe he’ll get there by the end of the season” means now you’ll have to match a competing offer for a MLE-level player that is 23 with a lot of room for improvement. Let’s just say he averages 12/4 on sub-45% fg and sub-40% 3pt—I can almost guarantee another team offers him $18+m/year.

Even if he didn’t play well enough to get any incentive money, $14m/year for a sniper off the bench that will keep improving his playmaking every year is not a terrible deal. Bogdan got $18/year and Kennard got close to $14/year. Of course, I’d love to lock him up for cheaper than $14m/year if we could, but $7-9.5m/year is impossible and would be downright disrespectful. Markelle Fultz barely played what could’ve been considered a full season, got a 3 year/$50m, then went out and played 8 games the next season.

Even offering $12m/year might just put Anfernee at that spot where he might just feel comfortable betting on himself—I most likely would if I was him. You have to incentivize him to at least keep him happy while he’s waiting behind guys on the depth chart. Risk-to-reward at $14m isn’t high. $12m would be even better. $7-9.5m, stop it.
 
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