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[Mediocre Man]

It would depend on the firsts, but Orlando and NJ do not have any that make that attractive. It would be a shame to have chased Crash for so long only to have him for a few games, then trade him for essentially what we gave for him.

True, but our team is in an entirely different position now than they thought they would be in. I think if Brandon and Greg were both "healthy" they wouldn't be entertaining trading Crash.

 

[Natebishop3]

If we make this move, I don't want to see any significant salaries coming back. Should just shed Wallace's contract and call it good.

Like I said in the other thread, I think an Orlando first could be a lottery pick after trading Howard. Like that team is going to win anything with only Lopez and Wallace.

 

[Blazinaway]

If we make this move, I don't want to see any significant salaries coming back. Should just shed Wallace's contract and call it good.

Like I said in the other thread, I think an Orlando first could be a lottery pick after trading Howard. Like that team is going to win anything with only Lopez and Wallace.

a nice TPE AND the picks would be nice

 

[RR7]

just would seem stupid of Orlando to give up Howard AND give up their lotto pick.

 

[Natebishop3]

a nice TPE AND the picks would be nice

Orlando fans might riot though if they send out their lottery pick to us in the same year that they deal Howard.

 

[jlprk]

Why would we trade an all-star forward, when we are short of forwards, for a guard, when we have a surplus of guards?

Fuck picks. You go through many picks to find an all-star forward.

 

[BoBoBREWSKI]

Nene staying in Denver. Nene is good, but not worth this kind of $$.

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/7...nuggets-re-sign-nene-5-year-67m-plus-contract

 

[Charcoal Filtered]

Why would we trade an all-star forward, when we are short of forwards, for a guard, when we have a surplus of guards?

Fuck picks. You go through many picks to find an all-star forward.

Exactly. Cap space is also fools gold and we would be lucky to get someone of Crash's ability to play for us.

Waiting on the specifics to make a judgement though.

 

[Draco]

I'd rather just keep Crash on the roster and sign Crawford for a 1 year deal. Crash will either opt out of his contract in the summer or we could send him out next summer similar to Odom going to Dallas. So I don't think there is any need to trying to dump Crash right now even if we want the cap space next offseason. If Orlando and NJ gave us unprotected picks I'd consider it but 1 season of Crash is worth more then a Luke Babbit and Nolan Smith.

 

[3RA1N1AC]

Exactly. Cap space is also fools gold and we would be lucky to get someone ̶o̶f̶ ̶C̶r̶a̶s̶h̶'̶s̶ ̶a̶b̶i̶l̶i̶t̶y̶ to play for us.

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[BrianFromWA]

but one season of Crash where we're probably not in contention is not worth, say, 2 picks in the top 20 in this year's draft. Forget the TPE (which you could use on a variety of useful players, should you want to).

Here's another great thing about the TPE (at least, I think you can do it)...let's say we trade Wallace today. Roster going into FA next year has ~25M in room. We can sign a couple of guys, while still being able to trade for a 9.5M player after filling up our cap space.

 

[RR7]

Here's another great thing about the TPE (at least, I think you can do it)...let's say we trade Wallace today. Roster going into FA next year has ~25M in room. We can sign a couple of guys, while still being able to trade for a 9.5M player after filling up our cap space.

Nope. Exceptions count against the cap. So we'd have to waive it to create that extra 9.5 million in cap space.

 

[BrianFromWA]

Nope. Exceptions count against the cap. So we'd have to waive it to create that extra 9.5 million in cap space.

check. You're right.

 

[mook]

It hurts to see Crash go, but the truth is he's another Josh Howard waiting to happen. With his style of play and his age, it's just a matter of time before he becomes a hobbled once-athletic small forward. You just hope your team isn't the one eating the bullet with a big contract in the game of injury roulette (as we have before). It probably is the time to "sell high" on Wallace, especially with Batum just now coming into his own off a good summer in Europe.

I'll withhold judgment on the actual trade until details become more clear. But I'm fully on board with parlaying Wallace now into a more long-term investment.

 

[Charcoal Filtered]

If we got Humpries and picks, that may be worth it.

It is alot easier to find help at the three than it is at backup 4. Have let it known many times I do not want Crash playing PF in fear of a concussion. Definitely do not think Humphries is worth 9M a year, but Humpries, Crawford, Williams, plus cap space and picks might be better than what Crash gives us.

 

[magnifier661]

Paul Allen could give a nice middle finger to the lakers by this Wallace rumor. Also, this gives the blazers arguably the best chance to land Chris Paul too. What justice if Portland was the team that helped keep Paul and Howard from going to tinsel town. Also, getting Paul would land us an Allstar too. How know maybe two this season.

The nba said they want talent, youth and picks. If we have two first rounders we would meet that criteria. Also eith Wallace's contract gone, we could even resign Paul and still have 8-10 million to grab a free agent. Not saying cp3 deal will happen, but we would have the flexibility to make it happen.

 

[Natebishop3]

Paul Allen could give a nice middle finger to the lakers by this Wallace rumor. Also, this gives the blazers arguably the best chance to land Chris Paul too. What justice if Portland was the team that helped keep Paul and Howard from going to tinsel town. Also, getting Paul would land us an Allstar too. How know maybe two this season.

The nba said they want talent, youth and picks. If we have two first rounders we would meet that criteria. Also eith Wallace's contract gone, we could even resign Paul and still have 8-10 million to grab a free agent. Not saying cp3 deal will happen, but we would have the flexibility to make it happen.

I would not be targeting Chris Paul. He is not going to want to come here anyway.

 

[Nikolokolus]

Paul Allen could give a nice middle finger to the lakers by this Wallace rumor. Also, this gives the blazers arguably the best chance to land Chris Paul too. What justice if Portland was the team that helped keep Paul and Howard from going to tinsel town. Also, getting Paul would land us an Allstar too. How know maybe two this season.

The nba said they want talent, youth and picks. If we have two first rounders we would meet that criteria. Also eith Wallace's contract gone, we could even resign Paul and still have 8-10 million to grab a free agent. Not saying cp3 deal will happen, but we would have the flexibility to make it happen.

Why are you obsessing so hard about Paul? Furthermore, if Eric Gordon, Kris Kaman and Minny's unprotected first round pick weren't good enough to get league approval for a trade (unless the Blazers plan to ship LMA to New Orleans) how do the Blazers trump that offer?

 

[magnifier661]

Why are you obsessing so hard about Paul? Furthermore, if Eric Gordon, Kris Kaman and Minny's unprotected first round pick weren't good enough to get league approval for a trade (unless the Blazers plan to ship LMA to New Orleans) how do the Blazers trump that offer?

That wasn't the case Nik. That was why Clippers nixed the deal. They didn't want to give them Minny's pick and Gordon. It was one or the other.

Oh and I don't really think Paul is a good idea. Just thinking this is their plan. Personally I am worried about Paul's knees. We have terrible luck with players and these injuries. I am just saying that this looks like something Brass is trying to go for. I may be dead wrong. It's not like I haven't been many times before.

 

[RR7]

One or the other is better than what you are proposing we send to them.

 

[magnifier661]

One or the other is better than what you are proposing we send to them.

Then why the hell would we do that then? There must be a bigger picture in this deal. I doubt even Allen would be happy doing this, knowing that Wallace is a high energy player and instantly became a fan favorite.

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

CP3 could be heading to the Clippers very soon according to Bill Simmons.

Bill Simmons @sportsguy33
Heavy buzz that CP3/Clippers might be going down. Clips staff was just summoned to the office. Trying to get more info.

 

[Charcoal Filtered]

CP3 could be heading to the Clippers very soon according to Bill Simmons.

Bill Simmons @sportsguy33
Heavy buzz that CP3/Clippers might be going down. Clips staff was just summoned to the office. Trying to get more info.

They were probably summoned to the office for Sterling to get enough people in on a Groupon.

 

[THE HCP]

This shit is giving me more of a headache then keeping up with the lockout!

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

Douchebag through a tantrum to get out of New Orleans.

I'm glad he's not going to the Lakers but hate that he got his way.

 

[RR7]

Marc Stein @ESPNSteinLine Close
ESPN sources: Clippers and NBA-owned Hornets have agreed to Chris Paul deal in principle. Gordon, Kaman, Aminu and Minnesota pick to Hornets

 

[oldmangrouch]

Marc Stein @ESPNSteinLine Close
ESPN sources: Clippers and NBA-owned Hornets have agreed to Chris Paul deal in principle. Gordon, Kaman, Aminu and Minnesota pick to Hornets

NO would be crazy to reject that......but we are talking about Sterno having the final say.

 

[GoBlazersGo]

He's been traded to the Slippers... just saw it at the tail-end of Sportscenter a few minutes ago.

LOL--a bit slow, I s'pose. Oh well!

 

[BrianFromWA]

so when do we see the apologetic columns from all the NBA writers about how Stern's not a plantation owner at all, but a genius for not taking Scola/Odom/Martin/Dragic, and instead getting Gordon/Aminu/Kaman's EC/MIN 1st? Maybe it's not about racism and slavery after all, but about not getting robbed blind on a business deal? Maybe?

 

[julius]

so when do we see the apologetic columns from all the NBA writers about how Stern's not a plantation owner at all, but a genius for not taking Scola/Odom/Martin/Dragic, and instead getting Gordon/Aminu/Kaman's EC/MIN 1st? Maybe it's not about racism and slavery after all, but about not getting robbed blind on a business deal? Maybe?

what's the fun in reacting calmly and rationally?