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I love seeing people crack on players once they leave. TRUST me we will be missing DA this season. If you are expecting Clingan to produce while sitting on the bench with 2 fouls 5 minutes in….and god knows who his backup will be. Should be fun.
 
Are you saying you like Grant for $35m/per over Vanderbilt for $15m/per or you like Grant more regardless of salary? Does this make sense?

Yes.

Grant has been a very good three point shooter. He can play both forward spots. He's a decent defender. His biggest wart is lack of rebounding. What does Vanderbilt bring?
 
I love seeing people crack on players once they leave. TRUST me we will be missing DA this season. If you are expecting Clingan to produce while sitting on the bench with 2 fouls 5 minutes in….and god knows who his backup will be. Should be fun.

We aren’t winning more games without him this year. Maybe developing our young guys on a faster track, but we’d win more games with Ayton in the team.
 
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RIP CITY, thank you. I appreciate ya’ll for welcoming me and my family.

I’ve truly enjoyed my experience engaging with such a proud fanbase and beautiful community.

Big up to my teammates, ya’ll the realest✊The entire coaching staff, thank you for your leadership. I appreciate going to battle with ya’ll.

Thank you to the entire front office and staff from the facility to the arena…I’m grateful to every one of you for being part of the journey.

@trailblazers, you’ll always have a place in my heart.

@lakers I’M READY. Let’s get to work #LakeShow
 
There’s always that guy who has inflated view of what he does on the court. Ayton is that guy, no matter how many coaches, players or videos he sees of him not doing something he thinks he is doing it. Coached many players who you can literally show tape of them not setting screen, not blocking out, or not giving effort and they will still argue.

seeing literally no team interested in him in trade and only few teams interested in him at discounted rate speaks volumes of what teams think of him. His stats will improve playing with Luka and Bron but empty stats they won’t win championship with him.

When we got him I really thought coming to new team he might mature and realize his potential, I was wrong
 
There’s always that guy who has inflated view of what he does on the court. Ayton is that guy, no matter how many coaches, players or videos he sees of him not doing something he thinks he is doing it. Coached many players who you can literally show tape of them not setting screen, not blocking out, or not giving effort and they will still argue.

seeing literally no team interested in him in trade and only few teams interested in him at discounted rate speaks volumes of what teams think of him. His stats will improve playing with Luka and Bron but empty stats they won’t win championship with him.

When we got him I really thought coming to new team he might mature and realize his potential, I was wrong

I agree 100%.
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I love seeing people crack on players once they leave. TRUST me we will be missing DA this season. If you are expecting Clingan to produce while sitting on the bench with 2 fouls 5 minutes in….and god knows who his backup will be. Should be fun.
What exactly will we be missing? Come on man, it was also documented of his issues in PHX.

Ayton was playing good during the 10-1 stretch, but what about the rest of the time?

you talk about people trashing players on the way out and here you are trying to trash Clingan about his fouls when he was playing 25-30 mins a game for a large portion towards the end of the season.

Ayton stats last season .

  • PTS - 14.4 - REB - 10.2 - AST - 1.6 - BLKS - 1.0 - FG% - 56.6 per 30 mins a game with 2.2 fouls per game
Clingan started 37 games for us last year as our starter -

PTS - 7.9 - PTS - 10.0 REB - 1.6 AST - BLKS - 2.1 - FG% - 52.6 per 24.5 mins a game with 3.2 fouls per game

So we lose points, but gain blocks and defense, big time!

This was also Clingan first year in the league as a rookie learning the NBA pace.

I don't see the route you're talking when saying "TRUST me we will be missing DA this season other than his 6 more points per game than Clingan
 
I love seeing people crack on players once they leave. TRUST me we will be missing DA this season. If you are expecting Clingan to produce while sitting on the bench with 2 fouls 5 minutes in….and god knows who his backup will be. Should be fun.

LINK? FAMS!
oh wait... see below.
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What exactly will we be missing? Come on man, it was also documented of his issues in PHX.

Ayton was playing good during the 10-1 stretch, but what about the rest of the time?

you talk about people trashing players on the way out and here you are trying to trash Clingan about his fouls when he was playing 25-30 mins a game for a large portion towards the end of the season.

Ayton stats last season .

  • PTS - 14.4 - REB - 10.2 - AST - 1.6 - BLKS - 1.0 - FG% - 56.6 per 30 mins a game with 2.2 fouls per game
Clingan started 37 games for us last year as our starter -

PTS - 7.9 - PTS - 10.0 REB - 1.6 AST - BLKS - 2.1 - FG% - 52.6 per 24.5 mins a game with 3.2 fouls per game

So we lose points, but gain blocks and defense, big time!

This was also Clingan first year in the league as a rookie learning the NBA pace.

I don't see the route you're talking when saying "TRUST me we will be missing DA this season other than his 6 more points per game than Clingan


LOVE THIS! Dropping facts on HCP!
 
We aren’t winning more games without him this year. Maybe developing our young guys on a faster track, but we’d win more games with Ayton in the team.

last season, when the Blazers were actually trying to win every game, the team was 17-23 (.425) with Ayton; and 19-23 (.452) without him. The team had a 36-46 record (.439). Blazers were 17-20 (.459) with Clingan as the starter

so:

.459 - Clingan as starter
.452 - without Ayton
.439 - overall team record
.425 - with Ayton

doesn't really support the notion that Portland would win more games next season with Ayton
 
https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/45652105/2025-nba-free-agency-winners-losers-offseason

Loser: Los Angeles Lakers

From the moment the Lakers acquired Luka Doncic in a surprise blockbuster, they desperately needed a center. They lost their previous starter, Anthony Davis, in the Doncic trade, and Doncic's game would mesh perfectly with a dynamic pick-and-roll partner. There's a reason Daniel Gafford broke out once he joined Doncic in Dallas and that Dereck Lively II was an impact rookie on the same team.

So it was no surprise that the Lakers agreed in principle to trade for a young, bouncy center immediately after acquiring Doncic. But when they rescinded the Mark Williams deal because of a failed physical, the Lakers were stuck with the players they already had on the roster. Jaxson Hayes started four playoff games but clearly didn't have coach JJ Redick's trust, as he played single-digit minutes in all four contests before being benched as Redick moved to a small-ball approach for all 48 minutes in the Lakers' final loss of the season.

At the very least, in the wake of the Lakers' disappointing playoff flameout, their top priority this summer seemed clear. And yet, a few days into the free agent frenzy, all of their top potential targets signed elsewhere, and they were stuck with Deandre Ayton, a surprise addition to the market after a buyout agreement with the Portland Trail Blazers.

Ayton doesn't profile as an ideal short-term solution for a championship hopeful nor is he a long-term fit next to Doncic. The 2018 No. 1 pick -- two picks ahead of Doncic, incidentally -- is neither a rim runner nor a floor spacer, and his game peaked a half-decade ago. Despite persistently impressive box score stats, the best public advanced stats all rate Ayton as a below-average player.

Meanwhile, Ayton's two-year deal with a player option carries little upside for the team. If he's good in Year 1, he'll opt out, whereas if he doesn't gain Redick's favor, he'll stay on the team's books for a second season.

This is a dangerous game to play when the Lakers are trying to manage James' discontent and coax Doncic into signing a long-term extension later this summer. For now, there's not much about this roster that should compel his signature. The Lakers have an imbalanced rotation with a lot of power forwards -- Rui Hachimura, Maxi Kleber, Jarred Vanderbilt and, of course, James -- but no trustworthy centers, and their only move of consequence other than signing Ayton is replacing Finney-Smith with Jake LaRavia.
 
There’s always that guy who has inflated view of what he does on the court. Ayton is that guy, no matter how many coaches, players or videos he sees of him not doing something he thinks he is doing it. Coached many players who you can literally show tape of them not setting screen, not blocking out, or not giving effort and they will still argue.

seeing literally no team interested in him in trade and only few teams interested in him at discounted rate speaks volumes of what teams think of him. His stats will improve playing with Luka and Bron but empty stats they won’t win championship with him.

When we got him I really thought coming to new team he might mature and realize his potential, I was wrong
All that said…..are we a better team with him in our center rotation, or not. I know the answer.
 
What exactly will we be missing? Come on man, it was also documented of his issues in PHX.

Ayton was playing good during the 10-1 stretch, but what about the rest of the time?

you talk about people trashing players on the way out and here you are trying to trash Clingan about his fouls when he was playing 25-30 mins a game for a large portion towards the end of the season.

Ayton stats last season .

  • PTS - 14.4 - REB - 10.2 - AST - 1.6 - BLKS - 1.0 - FG% - 56.6 per 30 mins a game with 2.2 fouls per game
Clingan started 37 games for us last year as our starter -

PTS - 7.9 - PTS - 10.0 REB - 1.6 AST - BLKS - 2.1 - FG% - 52.6 per 24.5 mins a game with 3.2 fouls per game

So we lose points, but gain blocks and defense, big time!

This was also Clingan first year in the league as a rookie learning the NBA pace.

I don't see the route you're talking when saying "TRUST me we will be missing DA this season other than his 6 more points per game than Clingan
We also got rid of Ant, our best scorer. You will have no low post game to go to anymore. I don’t need stats to tell me that Ayton would help us win more games this season. Who is your backup center, because you will be seeing a TON of him.
 

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