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kjironman1 said:
How do the Blazers as an organization not have people in place to take care of these issues?
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How is this the responsibility of the Blazers?
It's Ayton's responsibility (and somewhat his agent's) to make sure everything in his personal life is correct. But ultimately, Ayton's a big boy... He can make his own decisions.
 
blazerkor said:
Why wouldn't his family or agent make sure this shit wasn't happening and why the fuck didn't the training staff or anyone in our franchise know it was happening?
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Totally with ya on this. The organization should have people in place to ask questions and take care of issues just like this. If not the organization how about his family? Pretty sure I would have enough people around me for this not to be a problem.
 
CJ_is_Gone said:
How is this the responsibility of the Blazers?
It's Ayton's responsibility (and somewhat his agent's) to make sure everything in his personal life is correct. But ultimately, Ayton's a big boy... He can make his own decisions.
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It's not the responsibility of the team, but they do it anyway. They sometimes go above and beyond to make sure that players are taken care of. They sometimes hire family members just to make sure that the player is where they need to be on time.
 
CJ_is_Gone said:
How is this the responsibility of the Blazers?
It's Ayton's responsibility (and somewhat his agent's) to make sure everything in his personal life is correct. But ultimately, Ayton's a big boy... He can make his own decisions.
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There is a guy (or used to be) named Geoff Clark. He is director of player health and performance. The team has people on staff to take care of things just like this so players can worry about basketball.
 
Natebishop3 said:
It's not the responsibility of the team, but they do it anyway. They sometimes go above and beyond to make sure that players are taken care of. They sometimes hire family members just to make sure that the player is where they need to be on time.
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Yeah.... it really shouldn't be about whether it's "the team's responsibility" to take care of x, y, and z. What matters is whether or not it's in the team's best interest to take care of it, or at least be certain that it's handled properly. Even if Ayton at 25 years old absolutely should, beyond a shadow of a doubt, know that doing everything possible to take the best possible care of his body should be absolutely paramount, there is always a possibility that he doesn't know, understand, or care. The team has enough invested in the guy that they should have been all over this from the beginning.
 
blazerkor said:
Ayton is 25. I think a lot of people do shit when they're around that age then look back on it and realize how it was hurting them. Being aware of what you're doing to yourself isn't the easiest thing.

Now what you have to ask yourself is who is looking out for this guy? Why wouldn't his family or agent make sure this shit wasn't happening and why the fuck didn't the training staff or anyone in our franchise know it was happening?
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Bingo. He doesn't have anybody good he trusts as a mentor. Not that the people around him are bad people, but they obviously aren't giving him the help and guidance he requires.
 
PtldPlatypus said:
Yeah.... it really shouldn't be about whether it's "the team's responsibility" to take care of x, y, and z. What matters is whether or not it's in the team's best interest to take care of it, or at least be certain that it's handled properly. Even if Ayton at 25 years old absolutely should, beyond a shadow of a doubt, know that doing everything possible to take the best possible care of his body should be absolutely paramount, there is always a possibility that he doesn't know, understand, or care. The team has enough invested in the guy that they should have been all over this from the beginning.
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I was gonna say, who invests 10’s of millions of dollars on a human and then doesn't maintain that investment for the purpose of maximum return?
It’s absolutely in the best interest of the franchise to make sure all aspects of the investment is covered on and off the court, or it could be a potential wasted investment.
 
PtldPlatypus said:
Yeah.... it really shouldn't be about whether it's "the team's responsibility" to take care of x, y, and z. What matters is whether or not it's in the team's best interest to take care of it, or at least be certain that it's handled properly. Even if Ayton at 25 years old absolutely should, beyond a shadow of a doubt, know that doing everything possible to take the best possible care of his body should be absolutely paramount, there is always a possibility that he doesn't know, understand, or care. The team has enough invested in the guy that they should have been all over this from the beginning.
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Phatguysrule said:
Bingo. He doesn't have anybody good he trusts as a mentor. Not that the people around him are bad people, but they obviously aren't giving him the help and guidance he requires.
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SharpeScooterShooter said:
I was gonna say, who invests 10’s of millions of dollars on a human and then doesn't maintain that investment for the purpose of maximum return?
It’s absolutely in the best interest of the franchise to make sure all aspects of the investment is covered on and off the court, or it could be a potential wasted investment.
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Im not saying this is the case but there is the possibility they have done this and he doesn't listen. Thats the only possibility i would see on this if the franchise and family are feeding him good advice.

Bottom line is he talks too much though. Stop digging media holes…
 
SharpeScooterShooter said:
Im not saying this is the case but there is the possibility they have done this and he doesn't listen. Thats the only possibility i would see on this if the franchise and family are feeding him good advice.

Bottom line is he talks too much though. Stop digging media holes…
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I'm not blaming anyone. But he's obviously not getting good guidance, or if he is, he doesn't respect whoever is giving it.
 
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Natebishop3 said:
He's making TENS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS PER YEAR.

There is no reason at all for him to be sleeping on an air mattress. None. Zero. Zip. Nada. Zilch.

Give me a fucking break dude. It's not like we traded for him in the middle of the season. He had months to prepare for the season. And my frustration is with him constantly opening his mouth instead of just focusing on playing the game.
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Months? We traded for him right before training camp.
 
At this point, it seems like people are just coming out of the woodwork to pile on Whiteside.

Seriously, there are a lot worse comments made out there than this. I kind of look at it as if you need to spend the bandwidth trashing a guy who has been criticized his whole career for ONLY being really good because he gave you a little insight into trying to start over, get a life. He didn't kick a puppy or stiff the Salvation Army. Good lord, people. Just. Get. A. Life.
 
PCmor7 said:
At this point, it seems like people are just coming out of the woodwork to pile on Whiteside.
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Whiteside?

I think you meant Boogie Cousins—this thread isnt about Whiteside.
 
PCmor7 said:
At this point, it seems like people are just coming out of the woodwork to pile on Whiteside.

Seriously, there are a lot worse comments made out there than this. I kind of look at it as if you need to spend the bandwidth trashing a guy who has been criticized his whole career for ONLY being really good because he gave you a little insight into trying to start over, get a life. He didn't kick a puppy or stiff the Salvation Army. Good lord, people. Just. Get. A. Life.
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At this point? People have been bashing on the dude like it was a sport since the offseason.
 
riverman said:
Ayton has emerged as the only true alpha on the team other than Brogdan. I've wanted a center like him since we drafted Greg Oden with the number one pick
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not sure what you mean by alpha, is that some sort of new dtc mattress brand?

in all seriousness, if ayton can keep this up he'll have partially recouped the loss of lamarcus—a genuine blue chipper we got nothing in return for.
 
Nurk and Ayton are the same kind of player. Ayton just gets paid twice as much. The suns knew what they were doing...
 
Ayton is basically Whiteside 2.0 ... Contributes way less than his stats would suggest.

I think we're stuck with him this season. Hopefully next year we can con some team into trading for him that desperately needs a center as he'll be on an expiring deal.

I pray Cronin doesn't extend him.
 
SharpesTriumph said:
Ayton is basically Whiteside 2.0 ... Contributes way less than his stats would suggest.

I think we're stuck with him this season. Hopefully next year we can con some team into trading for him that desperately needs a center as he'll be on an expiring deal.

I pray Cronin doesn't extend him.
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I really doubt he would. The fact that he drafted Clingan shows what he thinks of Ayton. Only way is if Clingan's knees go "greg oden" on us...

Also, I'm sure there is a team out there that would trade for Ayton, but we wouldn't get anything that good in return. It was be for expirings. Maybe a pick.
 
beast blazer said:
I really doubt he would. The fact that he drafted Clingan shows what he thinks of Ayton. Only way is if Clingan's knees go "greg oden" on us....
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He still had Dame, drafted Sharpe, and re-signed Simons two weeks later. So, I'm not sure he worries about redundancy.
 
wizenheimer said:
He still had Dame, drafted Sharpe, and re-signed Simons two weeks later. So, I'm not sure he worries about redundancy.
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Ayton is different in that he's not an upcoming talent. And we have a better, younger player (and cheaper) behind him. Some team will pay Ayton starter money and give him a starting role.
 
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