Politics Bad signs for the Republican Party

[Minstrel]

Whoosh. Over your head.

I think it was actually you who missed the point, if you think a bad fundraising month speaks to coming doom for the party.

It's plain english. Geez.

And yet, it's still hard for you.

 

[Denny Crane]

I think it was actually you who missed the point, if you think a bad fundraising month speaks to coming doom for the party.



And yet, it's still hard for you.

I think the fundraising speaks to "bad signs for the republican party."

Again, whoosh!

 

[Minstrel]

I think the fundraising speaks to "bad signs for the republican party."

It doesn't speak to bad signs for either party. As 2007 shows.

For a more contemporary example, Clinton had many months where she had bigger fundraising than Trump. Keep trying, though.

 

[Denny Crane]

It doesn't speak to bad signs for either party. As 2007 shows.

For a more contemporary example, Clinton had many months where she had bigger fundraising than Trump. Keep trying, though.

Good luck with that.

Democrats can't win if they can't afford to buy votes.

 

[Minstrel]

Democrats can't win if they can't afford to buy votes.

That's clearly why they won every branch of government in landslides in 2008 despite that poor fundraising in 2007.

Time to switch to another tack, like "Democrats can't win unless they get the dead to vote for them." This one failed you.

 

[Denny Crane]

That's clearly why they won every branch of government in landslides in 2008 despite that poor fundraising in 2007.

Time to switch to another tack, like "Democrats can't win unless they get the dead to vote for them." This one failed you.

I get it. You think the massive fundraising advantage for the republicans is somehow no advantage.

That's just moronic.

It's a sign that people are supporting the republicans far more than the democrats. Democrats have no message, bad ideas, and their rule is fresh in the peoples' minds.

Trump won.
Trump won.
Trump won.
Of all people.

That's how bad Democrats are. They're not getting better about it, as the fundraising numbers show.

 

[Minstrel]

I get it. You think the massive fundraising advantage for the republicans is somehow no advantage.

No, I think a short stretch of fundraising says nothing about which party is about to win, and it's amusing that your own article underscored the point. Money matters, but taking a small sample size as if it's meaningful is silly. There's still over a year before the elections and these things keep reversing themselves. Last summer, Clinton was running up huge fundraising months while the GOP was struggling just to round up funds and sponsors for their national convention.

 

[UncleCliffy'sDaddy]

Good luck with that.

Democrats can't win if they can't afford to buy votes.

Ahhh....so you finally admit the Republicans bought the last election. Took you long enough to finally admit it. #nothingburger

 

[Denny Crane]

No, I think a short stretch of fundraising says nothing about which party is about to win, and it's amusing that your own article underscored the point. Money matters, but taking a small sample size as if it's meaningful is silly. There's still over a year before the elections and these things keep reversing themselves. Last summer, Clinton was running up huge fundraising months while the GOP was struggling just to round up funds and sponsors for their national convention.

Good luck with all that.

You have a bad story and no money. Republicans have a stronger economy and more money and more voters in most states.

Yeah. Good luck with all that.

 

[Denny Crane]

Ahhh....so you finally admit the Republicans bought the last election. Took you long enough to finally admit it. #nothingburger

How did they buy the election? They were massively outspent. At least at the presidential level, but also PACs.

 

[Minstrel]

Good luck with all that.

I'll take your skepticism under advisement, with the context that this expertise is coming from the same guy that assured us all that Obamacare was going to be repealed months ago.

 

[UncleCliffy'sDaddy]

How did they buy the election? They were massively outspent. At least at the presidential level, but also PACs.

So on one hand you say money is necessary to win the election and then you turn right around and say elections can be won without it. So very typical. Do you ever try to follow your own train(wreck) of a thought.....?

 

[Rastapopoulos]

If I were a republican, I'd say "keep up the good work, Rasta!"

FINALLY MY STATUS AS A MOVER AND A SHAKER IS RECOGNIZED!

 

[MarAzul]

Clinton had many months where she had bigger fundraising than Trump

Ha!
It would be cool if she keeps sucking up all the money. Wow! I bet that would draw flies.

 

[Denny Crane]

So on one hand you say money is necessary to win the election and then you turn right around and say elections can be won without it. So very typical. Do you ever try to follow your own train(wreck) of a thought.....?

I say it's a sign of support, nothing more.

Republican donors are energized enough to provide a massive war chest in comparison to democrats who seem to have a tiny base of energized people.

 

[Denny Crane]

I'll take your skepticism under advisement, with the context that this expertise is coming from the same guy that assured us all that Obamacare was going to be repealed months ago.

Boy are you going to have egg on your face again.

And again. And again.

 

[UncleCliffy'sDaddy]

How did they buy the election? They were massively outspent. At least at the presidential level, but also PACs.

I'm just using your logic....or what passes as such. You say on one hand that money matters and the turn right around and then say it doesn't. At least your inconsistencies are consistent.

 

[Minstrel]

Boy are you going to have egg on your face again.

I haven't made any poor predictions. Mostly because I don't make predictions. You, however, keep embarrassing yourself.

 

[dviss1]

"Trump's shrinking base"

I'm calling fake news on this one - no signs of it shrinking as far as I can see:

 

[dviss1]

Good luck with that.

And Trump won after 8 years of progressive rule.

Trump.
Trump.
Trump.

Of all people.

You say this shit like you haven't paid attention to politics in the past 60 years. There's always an ebb and flow.

The bottom line is the country does better economically when the Dems are in control. But you'll find some chart to "prove" that wrong...

 

[Denny Crane]

I'm just using your logic....or what passes as such. You say on one hand that money matters and the turn right around and then say it doesn't. At least your inconsistencies are consistent.

I say the difference in fundraising is a sign of how energized the party donors are. People voting with their wallets.

Whatever republicans are selling is being bought. Whatever democrats are selling isn't.

Perfectly consistent.

It's so bad that Trump won. It's not gotten any better for democrats.

 

[Denny Crane]

You say this shit like you haven't paid attention to politics in the past 60 years. There's always an ebb and flow.

The bottom line is the country does better economically when the Dems are in control. But you'll find some chart to "prove" that wrong...

And there's the domination at the ballot box in races up and down the ticket.

Democrats do benefit from the republican economic policies that went before them. Except GHW Bush.

 

[dviss1]

And there's the domination at the ballot box in races up and down the ticket.

Democrats do benefit from the republican economic policies that went before them. Except GHW Bush.

Funny you say that because we know how that went. GHW had to come in and raise taxes because of Reagan. Then Clinton came in and raised taxes and what happened then? Nvm you'll put your spin on it.

 

[Denny Crane]

Funny you say that because we know how that went. GHW had to come in and raise taxes because of Reagan. Then Clinton came in and raised taxes and what happened then? Nvm you'll put your spin on it.

GHW had to raise taxes because he made the no new taxes pledge and EVERY single Bill passed by the Democratic congress had a tax hike attached to it.

Bush set a record for vetoes.

 

[Orion Bailey]

I say the difference in fundraising is a sign of how energized the party donors are. People voting with their wallets.

Whatever republicans are selling is being bought. Whatever democrats are selling isn't.

Perfectly consistent.

It's so bad that Trump won. It's not gotten any better for democrats.

But Denny, its well known that big business, which is big money supports the republican party.

I dont think you can accurately judge support solely on the amount of money donated. how about the number of separate donations from different sects?

I mean three quarters of the country could donate a dollar, all they can afford, to the dems, but if 1 person or company donates billions and billions of dollars to the republicans, it means they have the majority support?
I'm a republican too, but lets be real real or nothing will ever be accomplished, eh?

 

[Denny Crane]

But Denny is well known that big business, which is big money supports the republican party.

I dont think you can accurately judge support solely on the amount of money donated. how about the number of separate donations from different sects?

I mean three quarters of the country could donate a dollar, all they can afford, to the dems, but if 1 person or company donates billions and billions of dollars to the republicans, it means they have the majority support?
I'm a republican too, but lets be real real or nothing will ever be accomplished, eh?

The big republican donors are sitting on the sideline. It's tens of millions of small amount donations.

Plus, the big money corporate donors favored the Democrats the past few cycles.

 

[Denny Crane]

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/09/trump-shatters-gop-records-with-small-donors-228338

Donald Trump has unleashed an unprecedented deluge of small-dollar donations for the GOP, one that Republican Party elders have dreamed about finding for much of the past decade as they’ve watched a succession of Democrats — Barack Obama, Bernie Sanders and, to a lesser extent, Hillary Clinton — develop formidable fundraising operations $5, $10 and $20 at a time.​

(Something like 14,000,000 small donors)

https://www.gop.com/rnc-has-record-415-million-first-quarter/?

Our record-setting fundraising pace has been fueled by grassroots enthusiasm for President Trump and the Republican Party,” said RNC Chairwoman McDaniel. “With more than a quarter million new small dollar online donors contributing to the RNC and Trump Campaign’s efforts, it is clear voters are invested in our Party and the president.​

Another 250,000 in Q1.

 

[Denny Crane]

More bad signs for the republican party.

 

[Minstrel]

The narrative you keep pushing that Bernie Sanders is inimical to the Democratic party is pretty silly. During the last night of the health care repeal's fiery demise, a Republican introduced a single-payer amendment purely to try to create divisions within the Democratic party. Bernie Sanders organized Democratic senators to all vote "Present" to foil that silly tactic. Clearly a guy who wants to kill the Democratic party. He wants to push the Democratic party left, but he wants to actually have a chance of winning, not try to throw elections to Republicans.

 

[Denny Crane]

The narrative you keep pushing that Bernie Sanders is inimical to the Democratic party is pretty silly. During the last night of the health care repeal's fiery demise, a Republican introduced a single-payer amendment purely to try to create divisions within the Democratic party. Bernie Sanders organized Democratic senators to all vote "Present" to foil that silly tactic. Clearly a guy who wants to kill the Democratic party. He wants to push the Democratic party left, but he wants to actually have a chance of winning, not try to throw elections to Republicans.

What's a few million potential Democratic Party voters not voting for Democrats anyway? Who needs 'em.