Baffled and Confounded by the "Hickson Situation"

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blue9 said:
Maybe in a game of 1-on-1 that'd be true (and I only say maybe). But when it comes to actually producing on the floor there's no separation between the two other than rebounds and FG% - both of which go in Hickson's favor.
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I really think you are so wrong. I think you are forgetting that Aldridge commands a double team a lot, opening thing up for other players. Hickson does not ever command a double team. There are so many reasons Aldridge is the far superior player.

I am all for dealing Aldridge for more pieces, but replacing with Hickson would be a huge drop off in actual team productivity. Better to let him walk and throw money at Milsap.
 
blue9 said:
Maybe in a game of 1-on-1 that'd be true (and I only say maybe). But when it comes to actually producing on the floor there's no separation between the two other than rebounds and FG% - both of which go in Hickson's favor.
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Explain why there has been no market for Hickson in free agency and at the trade deadline

Does that mean there would be no market for Aldridge?
 
Mediocre Man said:
I really think you are so wrong. I think you are forgetting that Aldridge commands a double team a lot, opening thing up for other players. Hickson does not ever command a double team. There are so many reasons Aldridge is the far superior player.

I am all for dealing Aldridge for more pieces, but replacing with Hickson would be a huge drop off in actual team productivity. Better to let him walk and throw money at Milsap.
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Most often times a team will double LA when he's on the left block and rotating towards the key. He's so predictable. Just watch the next game and you'll see what I mean.:lol:
 
Hobbesarable said:
Most often times a team will double LA when he's on the left block and rotating towards the key. He's so predictable. Just watch the next game and you'll see what I mean.:lol:
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Ya, I have noticed that. If he gets on the right side no double unless he hits his first couple of baskets (rarely does that happen though)
 
The LA vs Hickson argument is another reason I'm not big on stats. There are probably stats out there that will support the idea that Hickson is the better player . . . but if you watch and follow the Blazer closely, LA is the better player.
 
Had Kevin Love been healthy there is no way Aldridge would have been an All-Star this year. He barely made it last year.

And don't bring up the "1 of X players to average 20/8" -- His numbers are inflated due to the near 40 MPG.

IMHO it's time to move on from the LMA era.
 
Hobbesarable said:
I didn't know you were an NBA player, Mags!
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Hahahaha! Well I was referring to the coaches and players in the NBA. i did play against an NBA player once at my local park. His name was J.R. Rider and he made me his bitch. He was playing for Antelope Valley College at the time.
 
Fez Hammersticks said:
Had Kevin Love been healthy there is no way Aldridge would have been an All-Star this year. He barely made it last year.

And don't bring up the "1 of X players to average 20/8" -- His numbers are inflated due to the near 40 MPG.

IMHO it's time to move on from the LMA era.
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That would have been the case if Aldridge was voted in as a wild card. But he wasn't and it was clear the NBA coaches voted for Aldridge over Lee.
 
Fez Hammersticks said:
Had Kevin Love been healthy there is no way Aldridge would have been an All-Star this year. He barely made it last year.

And don't bring up the "1 of X players to average 20/8" -- His numbers are inflated due to the near 40 MPG.

IMHO it's time to move on from the LMA era.
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We have

It's the Damian Lillard era
 
RoyToy said:
Explain why there has been no market for Hickson in free agency and at the trade deadline
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There was no market for Hickson in free agency last summer because of his problems in Sacramento and the small sample size of his play in meaningless games in Portland last year. There was no market for him at the deadline because the Blazers were insistant that any deal for him not screw up their cap space for this summer. Additionally, any deal would have had to be approved by Hickson. None of that means that there won't be a strong market for him this summer after teams have seen him play so well for the Blazers all year. The Blazers should be able to work a sign-and-trade with Hickson and a new team and, hopefully, avoid losing him for nothing.

Does that mean there would be no market for Aldridge?
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LOL. Hardly.
 
Hobbesarable said:
Please enlighten me with LA's all star stats.
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Vince Carter had better stats than Larry Bird all-time in the All-star games. Does that mean Carter was better than Bird?

What Aldridge does on a chucking game filled with perimeter circus clowns doesn't qualify how good a player is. It's how that player got there. His production during the regular season warrants his invitation to the all-star game.
 
magnifier661 said:
Vince Carter had better stats than Larry Bird all-time. Does that mean Carter was better than Bird?

What Aldridge does on a chucking game filled with perimeter circus clowns doesn't qualify how good a player is. It's how that player got there. His production during the regular season warrants his invitation to the all-star game.
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Ah, the all star argument. :lol:
 
RoyToy said:
Explain why there has been no market for Hickson in free agency and at the trade deadline

Does that mean there would be no market for Aldridge?
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Hickson has veto power, and the list of teams he was willing to join was very short. There was interest by the teams on that list, but not enough to make a deal happen. Without that power, Hickson would have half a dozen teams bidding for his services...
 
BlazerWookee said:
Hickson has veto power, and the list of teams he was willing to join was very short. There was interest by the teams on that list, but not enough to make a deal happen. Without that power, Hickson would have half a dozen teams bidding for his services...
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Bingo.
 
There are a lot of arguments

Draft position
Contract
Demand from other teams
Respect from opposing defenses
NBA rank of PF's (Aldridge is routinely ranked in the top 3, where Hickson usually doesn't come close to the top 20)

I think you are arguing just to argue, and that makes me sad
 
Hobbesarable said:
Ah, the all star argument. :lol:
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I don't understand your angle here buddy. I said Aldridge is an all-star, then you say "how was his stats". Then i just explained an NBA legend had worse stats than the clown Carter.

I am explaining that getting to the all-star game, being the "coaches" votes is based on your regular season production. What you do at the all-star game is a different story. It's pretty obvious that Aldridge wasn't even used his first year, when the coach played his players (Westbrook and Durant) for over 30 minutes. The second go around, Aldridge was put in with Westbrook. Westbrook is a ball hog and if you watched the game; he wasn't passing to anyone.
 
Fez Hammersticks said:
Had Kevin Love been healthy there is no way Aldridge would have been an All-Star this year. He barely made it last year.

And don't bring up the "1 of X players to average 20/8" -- His numbers are inflated due to the near 40 MPG.

IMHO it's time to move on from the LMA era.
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Don't forget Dirk! If he hadn't been injured the first half of the season then LMA making the team becomes even less likely. But regardless, being an "all-star" doesn't impress me. It's a meaningless award and is based almost entirely on reputation - some reputations are deserved and some aren't.
 
magnifier661 said:
I don't understand your angle here buddy. I said Aldridge is an all-star, then you say "how was his stats". Then i just explained an NBA legend had worse stats than the clown Carter.

I am explaining that getting to the all-star game, being the "coaches" votes is based on your regular season production. What you do at the all-star game is a different story. It's pretty obvious that Aldridge wasn't even used his first year, when the coach played his players (Westbrook and Durant) for over 30 minutes. The second go around, Aldridge was put in with Westbrook. Westbrook is a ball hog and if you watched the game; he wasn't passing to anyone.
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Try it from an efficiency standpoint. Do you think he is an efficient scorer?
 
blue9 said:
Don't forget Dirk! If he hadn't been injured the first half of the season then LMA making the team becomes even less likely. But regardless, being an "all-star" doesn't impress me. It's a meaningless award and is based almost entirely on reputation - some reputations are deserved and some aren't.
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You are talking about the fan vote. You know the fans that voted Yao as a starter over Shaq. But the coach's vote holds more weight. They actually coach against these players. They have a better understanding of the true value of a player.
 
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