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wizenheimer said:
I don't think it would matter

take this season: come in as the 9th or 10th seed in the play-in and you're locked into the 8th seed. So here's your choice: win your play-in games and you get OKC who has HCA and the best record in the NBA...or...lose and you get an equal shot at Flagg or Bailey. I think more teams will find ways to lose than find ways to win.
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Win and you get 4. Lose and you get 5? Lose and you get 14?
 
blazerfan11 said:
The NBA should just make the odds the same for all 14 lottery teams when choosing the top 4 picks.

I am fine with a team intentionally losing 1 or 2 play-in games to miss the playoffs, or intentionally missing the play-in.

Keeping the draft order the same as now after 1-4, the teams that lose in the play-in still most likely get the pick that they are slotted for by their record, 11-14.

What is not fine is a team like Washington losing 82% of their games and getting a better chance at the first pick.

The team with the most losses is still is rewarded with the 5th pick (at worst) .
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So then we could have a team tank a playin game to get the same lotto chances as a team that lost 82% of their games?

The current structure sounds way better to me.
 
blazerfan11 said:
What is not fine is a team like Washington losing 82% of their games and getting a better chance at the first pick.
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I just don't see a problem with this. Washington has a roster with a bunch of young players and is building for years from now. Sure they are losing a lot today, but that is a more fun team to follow than Kuzma/Poole/Beal/Westbrook type of vets they held onto in prior years.

I wish we followed that blueprint instead of our AytonGrantAnt trio earning 100 million.

If a team makes the playin and loses that game intentionally on national TV the day before the playoffs that's 20x bigger problem and a major embarrassment for the team as well as the NBA.
 
blazerfan11 said:
The team with the most losses is still is rewarded with the 5th pick (at worst) .
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See if you did this structure then your still incentivising teams to build a losing roster like the Wizards. This actually sounds like one of the worst structures possible as we'll still have teams tanking to guarantee a top5 pick and we'll have play in games tanking to try and jump into the top4.
 
No way we make it
 
PtldPlatypus said:
I've said for a long time that I think the best answer for tanking is to give the highest lottery odds to the best non-playoff teams instead of the worst ones. Would make it much more possible for middling teams to get out of purgatory.
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Yeah, but that fucks over teams that are genuinely unlucky. You know, like us (with Oden, Roy et al.)
 
Rastapopoulos said:
Yeah, but that fucks over teams that are genuinely unlucky. You know, like us (with Oden, Roy et al.)
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How so? It seems like it would encourage teams to have the best coaching staff and developmental system possible...

It might have the effect of giving destination cities even more of an advantage...
 
Take the bottom 15 teams and have a lottery every year equal odds. Draw for 15-11, then draw for 6-10, then 1-5

This would prevent major tanking and just about every year 15 of thirty teams are 500 or below.

Plus they couldn't just plan a three-five year tanking strategy that was dependable, so they would need to find other ways to build a playoff team.
 
Hoopguru said:
Take the bottom 15 teams and have a lottery every year equal odds. Draw for 15-11, then draw for 6-10, then 1-5

This would prevent major tanking and just about every year 15 of thirty teams are 500 or below.

Plus they couldn't just plan a three-five year tanking strategy that was dependable, so they would need to find other ways to build a playoff team.
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I think it could be a good idea to include the 8th seed so as not to have any reason not to make the playoffs. I think that would be 16 teams?

Then do something like you suggest.
 
Blazers 3.5 games from the 10th seed . Phoenix and the Spurs lost and Sac and Golden State won yesterday.

The Rockets are rocketing in the wrong direction. They've lost 6 in a row and are behind today in Toronto in the 3rd quarter (by 5 points).

Fred Van Vleet is still out.

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The Sacramento - Dallas (in Dallas) game felt like the playoffs and went into overtime.

Sacramento won when DeMar DeRozan split a double team and sunk the shot. Master of the mid-range. (see video below)

With Golden State and Sacramento's wins, Phoenix fell out of the top 10.




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In this video you can see Klay Thompson drill a 3-pointer to give the Mavs a 1-point lead, followed by DeRozan's game-winner.

 
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After two victories against Eastern Conference opponents (Chicago and Milwaukee) , the Warriors in their next 4 games play Dallas twice, Houston, and Sacramento.



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Overheard Chauncey and Joe's convo at the team's Christmas party:

"I want an extention."

"You got January to show me what you got."

Overheard Chauncey and Joe's convo after the trade deadline:

"You serious? Continue to win?"

"Beat Minny and your former team and you can do whatever you want, otherwise stop winning , your extention is safe!"
 
The 10th seed in the East is 22-32. Suddenly, Brooklyn’s in the hunt.
 
Suns, Kings, and Warriors have losses coming before the break. If we can beat Denver, it’d be huge.
 
Whether we root for a tank or the play in........we should all root for these 6 teams to win as many games as possible

Chicago Bulls
Philadelphia 76ers
Brooklyn Nets
Toronto Raptors
San Antonio
Atlanta
 
Pinwheel1 said:
Whether we root for a tank or the play in........we should all root for these 6 teams to win as many games as possible

Chicago Bulls
Philadelphia 76ers
Brooklyn Nets
Toronto Raptors
San Antonio
Atlanta
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Atlanta is odd as their trades make it seem like their tanking - but their pick is unprotected going to the Spurs.
 
Pinwheel1 said:
Whether we root for a tank or the play in........we should all root for these 6 teams to win as many games as possible

Chicago Bulls
Philadelphia 76ers
Brooklyn Nets
Toronto Raptors
San Antonio
Atlanta
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Not rooting for Spurs. I want to make play-in or at least compete for it.
 
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