Bayless trade: Yuck or Yay? (2 Viewers)

[Rastapopoulos]

Are you happy with the trade or unhappy?

 

[Natebishop3]

I'm unhappy. I thought Bayless would be a good chip to add with one of our expirings (Joel/Miller) for something significant. All we got was a draft pick? And we have no idea how good NO will be this year, or next year, etc etc etc. This could be a huge waste of talent. What if we end up getting a pick in the late teens/early 20s? That would be a huge downgrade from Bayless.

 

[andalusian]

To be determined, imho.

Depends on how good Armon is going to be, how high the pick will be and if it is the last move of the pre-season.

 

[VanillaGorilla]

I'm unhappy. I thought Bayless would be a good chip to add with one of our expirings (Joel/Miller) for something significant. All we got was a draft pick? And we have no idea how good NO will be this year, or next year, etc etc etc. This could be a huge waste of talent. What if we end up getting a pick in the late teens/early 20s? That would be a huge downgrade from Bayless.

You can't really say that for sure. Bayless hasn't been that good and there is often good talent in that range.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

I like it just because we were playing Bayless at a position that wasn't his strength, and besides which, both Rudy and Matthews play better with others. I think Armon Johnson won't get all or even most of Bayless' minutes, but I think he's safe from Idaho now.

 

[oldguy]

I think JB should bring back something better than possibly a decent pick.

The wild card is that JB might have been unhappy here, if Armon moved ahead of him at PG, as was reported recently.

Go Blazers

 

[Sedatedfork]

Are you happy with the trade or unhappy?

I am pretty sure I am in the minority, but I think it is a good move. Bayless was not going to be happy with his playing time on this team.

 

[RoyToy]

I am pretty sure I am in the minority, but I think it is a good move. Bayless was not going to be happy with his playing time on this team.

Rudy isn't happy and the Blazers didn't trade him.

This is stupid.

 

[BGrantFan]

Meh. I'm excited to see what Johnson can do this year.

 

[VanillaGorilla]

I like it. As much as I don't like Rudy, I think he can bring more to this team than Bayless, and this does open up space for him and Matthews.

 

[MickZagger]

Meh. I'm excited to see what Johnson can do this year.

About sums up how I feel about it.

The Bayless experiment is going to workout the way the team is currently contstructed. Cut ties and try something new.

 

[VanillaGorilla]

I don't think it effects the team much at all. So that's why I'm fine with it.

 

[Nikolokolus]

It's meh for now, because it all depends on what the pick turns into. In the short run it means that Wesley Matthews is going to be asked to play a lot of minutes (good) it might mean Armon gets some run (iffy), and the team will end up keeping Rudy and Patty in the near term (also iffy).

Depth Chart:
Miller/Armon/Mills
Roy/Matthews/Rudy/Williams
Batum/Babbitt
LMA/Dante
Camby/Oberto ...

with Joel and Greg on the IR

Interesting.

 

[RoyToy]

A healthy New Orleans team challenges not only for the playoffs, but even perhaps as high as a 5 seed.

Paul
Belnelli(their new Peja on offense - spread the defense)
Ariza(upgrade from last year/better defender)
West(borderline AS every year)
Okafor(steady player)

Then they have Peja/Thornton/Bayless off the bench.

If the pick ends up being higher than 15 I'll be surprised. The Blazers indeed probably traded Bayless for a lower 1st round draft pick. Brilliant.

 

[Natebishop3]

Sorry, but lottery protected means it's a trash pick. This team needs more rookies?

 

[Rastapopoulos]

A healthy New Orleans team challenges not only for the playoffs, but even perhaps as high as a 5 seed.

I don't know how to put this any other way.... are you high?

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Sorry, but lottery protected means it's a trash pick. This team needs more rookies?

Think of it as a more widely movable asset than Bayless. We may never actually use it.

 

[RoyToy]

The Hornets were 25-21 last year before Chris Paul got hurt and after getting out to a slow start. They were 11-5 in there last 16 games.

This year they have a better roster and if they stay healthy they will be a factor in the playoff race because of Chris Paul alone.

 

[VanillaGorilla]

I don't know how to put this any other way.... are you high?

I lol'd. Repped.

 

[Nikolokolus]

Sorry, but lottery protected means it's a trash pick. This team needs more rookies?

Top seven protected this year and then top 8 the next 3 years after ... so it's actually pretty decent.

 

[RoyToy]

I don't know how to put this any other way.... are you high?

Btw, funny you say this because these are the exact words I say after reading your trade proposal threads.

 

[Nikolokolus]

Btw, funny you say this because these are the exact words I say after reading your trade proposal threads.

But the difference is, you're high when you read his posts, so of course they seem odd to you.

 

[illmatic99]

The PGotFs:

Telfair - drafted in 04- traded in 06
Jack- drafted in 05- traded in 08
Sergio- drafted in 06- traded in 09
Kopenen- drafted in 07- ????
Bayless- drafted in 08- traded in 10
Mills- drafted in 09- ???? (can't believe we chose him over JB)
Johnson- drafted in 10- ????


Boy, we haven't had much luck in finding that PG, have we?

 

[THE HCP]

His energy will be missed I promise you!

 

[VanillaGorilla]

His energy will be missed I promise you!

Will his pouting also be missed?

 

[illmatic99]

Will his pouting also be missed?

To his credit, he never bitched his feelings to the media.

I wish he could have had more freedom to do his thing here. But Nate was hellbent on turning him into something that he isn't.

 

[THE HCP]

Will his pouting also be missed?

What are you talking about?

 

[Nikolokolus]

To his credit, he never bitched his feelings to the media.

I wish he could have had more freedom to do his thing here. But Nate was hellbent on turning him into something that he isn't.

I think this is slightly wrong. Nate was hellbent on keeping him off the floor unless he could play defense or run the point. Jerryd tried to do his best to become something he wasn't and unfortunately it never worked out for him (or the team). I hope has happier times in New Orleans.

 

[1 Eye Jack]

I'm happy about the trade. Bayless wasn't going to get the minutes he wanted thus his value was going to drop. How many times have we complained the Blazers hang on to players to long and don't get good value back. I think it'd be foolish to hang on to him if he wasn't going to get playing time. Nothing against Bayless and I wish him well but he was never going to be more than a change of tempo combo guard. I'm happy with the draft pick and sure Cho has another move up his sleeve in the very near future.

Funny John Lund (from 95.5 the game) use to cover Utah some and he said he use to love when Bayless came into the game and not because he liked Bayless. He thought Bayless was extremely inconsistent. I realize Lund is not expert but funny to hear another teams view.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Btw, funny you say this because these are the exact words I say after reading your trade proposal threads.

You're right. I proposed actually getting something more than a pick for Bayless. Clearly I overvalued him.