Behind the Veil: Never Before Seen Footage of Secret Mormon Rituals

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I grew up religious, then I became capable of logical thought and common sense. I was a teenager.

For adults to practice secret handshakes and passwords believing it will get them to heaven is fucking stupid. It just is. Some things are stupid, religion is one of them. But that doesn't mean the majority of people on earth are stupid, just that they do stupid things and believe in stupid things.

I am a might concerned though about Mitt's secret oath of vengeance against the United States. :tsktsk:
 
i believe in mooku, the whale god of paladium zenon, and all other gods are made up horse phooey

the odds that i am correct are 1 in 7 billion
 
i believe in mooku, the whale god of paladium zenon, and all other gods are made up horse phooey

the odds that i am correct are 1 in 7 billion

Oh, ye of little faith. ;)
 
Oh, ye of little faith. ;)

no, ABSOLUTE faith, i also believe that all who do not believe in mooku will burn in the belly of the fire squid for a thousand forevers. and i believe this with every nano fiber of my baleen shrine painstakingly aligned towards the omicron nebula

doesnt change the statistics though
 
no, ABSOLUTE faith, i also believe that all who do not believe in mooku will burn in the belly of the fire squid for a thousand forevers. and i believe this with every nano fiber of my baleen shrine painstakingly aligned towards the omicron nebula

doesnt change the statistics though

You should watch The Genesis Code. You actually might enjoy it.
 
zeitgiest has a pretty striking delivery, but most of the "facts" in the movie regarding jesus are not exactly that
 
i always liked the parallel to the sun and zodiac though
 
Have you guys seen Religulous. It's hilarious!
 
At 3:34 -- The Mormon Law of Consecration requires that the faithful dedicate their "time, talents, and everything" to "the building up of the Kingdom of God (Elohim) on the Earth and for the establishment of Zion," referring to the Mormon belief that civil government will be replaced by a religious government administered by Mormons.

The parts within quotations is correct. This is how the city of Enoch was run before it was carried away. The ancillary remarks are not true. The government they're twisting is the government that Christ will establish when He returns.

3:54 -- "All Mormon Church leaders, including Mitt Romney, once a Mormon bishop in Boston, have repeatedly taken this secret oath, viewed by many as a threat to the separation of church and state."

This is just an extension of the propaganda from the previous quote. There have been and currently are plenty of Mormons in government. None of them were so overwhelmed by their involvement in the church that they couldn't perform their political responsibilities. This is complete fear mongering.

4:07 -- "During the time of Mitt Romney's parents and grandparents, this ritual contained a secret Oath of Vengeance against the USA for the murders of Mormon prophets Hyrum and Joseph Smith."

4:13 -- Part of the The Oath of Vengeance reads as follows: ..."to avenge the blood of the prophets upon the United States, and that you will teach the same to your children and to your children's children unto the third and fourth generation."

Taking into account that the above statements are likely misquoted, I found this information on the the so-called "Oath of Vengeance"

Until 1927 the temple endowment very likely contained such an oath. The exact wording is not entirely clear, but it appears that it did not call on the Saints themselves to take vengeance on the United States, but that they would continue to pray that God himself might avenge the blood the prophets.

Although the Oath of Vengeance contains no curses like those in the imprecatory psalms, like the psalmists, the Saints apparently had the wisdom to take directly to God their strong feelings in response to the injustices they had been dealt. By doing so, they turned over to Him the responsibility for both justice and healing.

http://en.fairmormon.org/Mormonism_and_temples/Endowment/Oath_of_vengeance
 
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^You seem to know an awful lot about this and to each his own when it comes to believing in a higher power.......... but can you please explain the Secret Squirrel Handshake Password thing?
 
its the same thing as knowing about animal style at in and out burger
 

Here are some important quotes:

"Leonard J. Arrington, founder of the Mormon History Association, reports that Brigham Young received the rider, James Haslam, at his office on the same day. When he learned what was contemplated by the militia leaders in Parowan and Cedar City, he sent back a letter stating the Baker-Fancher party were not to be meddled with, and should be allowed to go in peace (although he acknowledged the Native Americans would likely "do as they pleased").[11][16] Young's letter arrived two days too late, on September 13, 1857.

Part of the article also stats that the main instigators not only were kicked out of the church, but were also put on trial.

Context is important in all things. For example:
"In addition, during the prior decades, the religion had undergone a period of intense persecution in the American Midwest, and faithful Mormons moved west to escape persecution in midwestern towns. In particular, they were officially expelled from the state of Missouri during the 1838 Mormon War, during which prominent Mormon apostle David W. Patten was killed in battle. After Mormons moved to Nauvoo, Illinois, the religion's founder Joseph Smith, Jr. and his brother Hyrum Smith were assassinated in 1844. Just months before the Mountain Meadows massacre, Mormons received word that yet another apostle had been killed: in April 1857, apostle Parley P. Pratt was shot in Arkansas by Hector McLean, the estranged husband of one of Pratt's plural wives, Eleanor McLean Pratt.[45] Mormon leaders immediately proclaimed Pratt as another martyr,[46] and many Mormons held the people of Arkansas responsible.[47]"

So after being kicked all over the country and having many loved ones killed, and misconstruing the emigrants as part of the mob that killed yet another leader of the church, the people apart of the Mountain Meadows Massacre decided not to take it anymore. Obviously it was a massive mistake, but context makes it understandable. This was, after all, the wild west we're talking about here.
 
romney thinks we are all going to hell

hey drock, do you think polygamy should be legal? i do

could then a mormon woman have 100 husbands? she should right?

Polygamy doesn't bother me one way or the other as long as all parties are consenting adults. Personally, I wouldn't practice it unless I was required to. One wife if plenty for me.

Technically, Mormons only practiced polygaNy (exclusively one man and multiple wives). Polygamy is multiple spouses of either gender. So, no Mormon women wouldn't be able to have more than one husband. I've mentioned some of the reasons Mormons practiced polygany in the past.
 
^You seem to know an awful lot about this and to each his own when it comes to believing in a higher power.......... but can you please explain the Secret Squirrel Handshake Password thing?

There's a lot of symbolism in religions. The handshake thing has a lot to do with symbolism. There are other aspects to it, but I'd prefer not to get into it. I'll say this though. The purpose of the endowment is to empower and educate the participant. Every aspect of it does one or both of those things. Some of the things are helpful to know for your salvation, others are necessary to know.
 
Some of the things are helpful to know for your salvation, others are necessary to know.

No they're not.
They're actually teaching the correct handshakes over at the Scientology building, you've been led astray.
 
While the Mormons might be newer, and have some weird practices, to try to hold the moral high ground as a Catholic is just absurd.

This sentence is absurd.

For you to try to hold the moral high ground as a caucasian is just absurd. Do you know how many people your group of white people have killed?!?!?
 
I grew up religious, then I became capable of logical thought and common sense. I was a teenager.

For adults to practice secret handshakes and passwords believing it will get them to heaven is fucking stupid. It just is. Some things are stupid, religion is one of them. But that doesn't mean the majority of people on earth are stupid, just that they do stupid things and believe in stupid things.

Yes, that is what all religions are about. And you're calling other things stupid? Ironic.
 
There's a lot of symbolism in religions. The handshake thing has a lot to do with symbolism. There are other aspects to it, but I'd prefer not to get into it. I'll say this though. The purpose of the endowment is to empower and educate the participant. Every aspect of it does one or both of those things. Some of the things are helpful to know for your salvation, others are necessary to know.

Thanks for explaining things. From what I've experienced, Mormans are one religion that actually put their money where their mouth is, and I can respect that.
 
can woman have 100 husbands? that shit would be freaky awesome
 
This sentence is absurd.

For you to try to hold the moral high ground as a caucasian is just absurd. Do you know how many people your group of white people have killed?!?!?

Hahaha... okay Chris. Whatever. Why stop there? You're a human being, do you know how many people your group of people have killed??!?!?! :crazy:
 

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